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Old 01-09-2018, 04:47 PM  
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Old 01-09-2018, 06:27 PM   #91
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Old 01-09-2018, 06:28 PM   #92
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Old 01-09-2018, 06:29 PM   #93
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Childress retired yesterday.
Which is why I said they should backfill him. Childress retiring is even worse because it takes 2 experienced QBs coaches including Nagy out of the equation for us.
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Old 01-09-2018, 06:29 PM   #94
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Really don't love this move. Priority 1 is to develop the hell out of Mahomes and this is the first time in Andy Reid's 18 years that his offensive coordinator has no experience coaching QBs. And the guy coaching QBs is young and inexperienced. If they plan to backfill Childress with an experienced QB handler and passing game handler, fine. But if not... ugh, why now to have so little staff experience handling QBs?
Worst case scenario is Reid personally takes control of Mahomes development, and thats going to be ok with me

As long as he gives something up to balance it out
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Old 01-09-2018, 06:30 PM   #95
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Al Harris as DC would be a monumental leap for him, but in current circumstances I wouldnt be fired up and pissed off about it... everyone seems to want youngblood guys like Sean McVay these days

Is anyone going to tell me Harris is less qualified than McVay with a straight face?

Its time for some new energy, not only on this team, but in the NFL in general... Bienemy, Harris, and grand wizard Reid overseeing it all

I simply ask... why not?

Maybe I'm wrong, but lets hear the reasons why


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Old 01-09-2018, 06:32 PM   #96
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Which is why I said they should backfill him. Childress retiring is even worse because it takes 2 experienced QBs coaches including Nagy out of the equation for us.
**** it, either fire the whole staff and start over, or it doesn't matter Because Reid, Because Chiefs.
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Old 01-09-2018, 06:35 PM   #97
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Is anyone going to tell me Harris is less qualified than McVay with a straight face?
Apparently, and no offense, you don't know much, if anything, about Sean McVay.
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Apparently, and no offense, you don't know much, if anything, about Sean McVay.
Well then tell me what you know about the guy, hotshot

Let me guess, you just knew he was going to be a ****ing stud, amirite?
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Old 01-09-2018, 06:40 PM   #99
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It won't matter when Mahomes is calling his own plays in real time at the LOS. =P
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Old 01-09-2018, 06:40 PM   #100
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It appears to be a lazy, tired hiring.

Since 1999, EB has coached running backs for all but two years, when he was the Offensive Coordinator at his alma mater, which went 4-21 and averaged 14 points per game, in the defensively weak Pac-12.

He's never been a QB, never coached a QB and while he's done very good work with NFL running backs, he's never designed an NFL offense, especially one as complex as Andy Reid's West Coast Offense.

The Chiefs will need to hire a very strong QB coach in order to prepare that room each week and the idea of Bieniemy overseeing Pat Mahomes development as a player is nothing short of frightening.

He may prove me wrong but I just don't like it, at all. Hiring a first time NFL Offensive Coordinator at the age of 48 just seems lazy.
I'm not sure that Bienemy would be expected to design the offense. That's Andy's strength. What Eric needs to be able to do is to implement that offense on game days. Because as smart as Reid is at designing plays, he just can't seem to figure out which of those plays call based on the defense and the down and distance. I mean, every play that Nagy was calling was out of Reid's playbook. But he knew better than Andy what plays to call when the defense adjusted to the game plan. It was painfully evident midseason and Saturday night that Reid just can't adjust on the fly. Will Bienemy be better, and more importantly, will Reid let him? We can only hope.
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Old 01-09-2018, 06:41 PM   #101
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Old 01-09-2018, 06:42 PM   #102
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I'm not sure that Bienemy would be expected to design the offense. That's Andy's strength. What Eric needs to be able to do is to implement that offense on game days. Because as smart as Reid is at designing plays, he just can't seem to figure out which of those plays call based on the defense and the down and distance. I mean, every play that Nagy was calling was out of Reid's playbook. But he knew better than Andy what plays to call when the defense adjusted to the game plan. It was painfully evident midseason and Saturday night that Reid just can't adjust on the fly. Will Bienemy be better, and more importantly, will Reid let him? We can only hope.
Apparently you missed Nagy saying he called every play in the second half.
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Old 01-09-2018, 06:43 PM   #104
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This hiring represents consistency and status quo. Because we haven't won anything, most people are naturally not going to be happy with it.

He's a middle-aged African American coach in the NFL who doesn't fit the profile of exciting.

Had we hired some up-and-comer that looks like Sean McVay or Matt Nagy or Kevin from This is Us, the reaction here would be different.

No one knows what he's capable of with this offense and it's pointless to get too high or low on the decision. Mahomes's abilities will ultimately be a far more important factor in our success next season.
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Old 01-09-2018, 06:45 PM   #105
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That seetles that....a qb without the necessary pieces

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