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JakeF · 01-08-2018, 04:53 PM

Market for Alex Smith will be strong, Ian Rapoport says
Ian Rapoport of the NFL Network thinks the Chiefs could get a solid trade haul in return for Alex Smith.
Kirk Larrabee - 3 hours ago 0

The Kansas City Chiefs should have no problem finding a trade partner for Alex Smith this offseason and could come away with a strong haul in return, according to insider Ian Rapoport of the NFL Network.

Rapoport, who reported over the weekend the Chiefs would be listening to offers for Smith this offseason, was a guest on The Day Shift on 610 Sports Radio Kansas City Monday, where he was asked about the level of interest in Alex Smith and whether or not the Chiefs will be able to trade him.

"A lot," Rapoport said. "A lot, and yes."

Smith is coming off his best statistical season of his career as he threw for 4,042 yards in 2017 with 26 touchdowns, five interceptions, and a 104.7 passer rating. Rapoport says it's that performance along with what Smith can bring to a team's quarterback room that makes him such a hot commodity.

"He was number one in the NFL in passer rating," Rapoport said. "He is a great person, so if you trade for him and then draft a quarterback high, you will get someone who's going to help him. All you need to do is ask Patrick Mahomes. It's actually an amazing thing what a great person Alex Smith is because he's dealt with a lot of crap in his career despite mostly awesome and has come out the other side of it."

There have been several teams speculated to be good fits for Smith, with different situations among each of them. There's the Jacksonville Jaguars and Buffalo Bills, playoff teams that are still fighting quarterback woes; there's the Arizona Cardinals, a team whose starting quarterback, Carson Palmer, just retired, but still has enough talent to be competitive next season; and there's a team like the Cleveland Browns, who might be interested in acquiring Smith to not just help the team start winning again but to be a mentor to a quarterback they might select in the draft.

The latter situation might not seem like an ideal one to many quarterbacks, but Smith has done it before, and Rapoport thinks he might not have a problem doing it again.

"If I was a franchise quarterback, would I really want to help the guy who is brought in to replace me? I don't know," Rapoport said. "For some ridiculous reason, Alex Smith has done it several times, and he's continued to be a great guy. He's going to end up benefiting from all this because first of all, he's probably going to wind up being traded somewhere great. Second of all, I think his legacy will sort of live on and people will know what a good person he is."

Trading Smith would free up $17 million in cap space for the Chiefs, a much-needed amount for a team currently projected to be over the cap next year, and would also allow them to replenish some of the draft picks they traded away in multiple trades in recent months. It cost a 2013 second round pick and a 2014 conditional pick (which turned out to be another second round pick) for the Chiefs to acquire Smith from the San Francisco 49ers in 2013, and Rapoport thinks the Chiefs could get even more in return for Smith than that.

"I think they might do better this time," Rapoport said. "He is a hot commodity, and they are in unbelievable position."

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Hog's Gone Fishin · 01-19-2018, 07:56 PM

Our perfect scenario would be for Mahomes to take over with Smith as a backup. Any chance ????

Sweet Daddy Hate · 01-19-2018, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Servant_KC

Well shit after 2 decades you would hope to god he could improve on the glaring flaws that plague him year after year, decade after decade.

It's a talent issue, cut and dried.

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Originally Posted by RealSNR

He had a QB like Mahomes in Philly?

Nope. Reid has not had a QB like Mahomes, during his tenure as a head coach, for his entire head coaching career. I never found McNabb to be as groovy as some, but there has never been a QB of Mahomes caliber to enter Andy Reid's stratosphere until now.
I fully expect for Reid to be crowned a coaching genius by season's end.

Sandy Vagina · 01-19-2018, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin

Our perfect scenario would be for Mahomes to take over with Smith as a backup. Any chance ????

The time is now, bro. Sorry. Let the Alex fly fly away for draft ammo.

Mahomes must step up and show he can not only handle starting defenses.. but endure them over time.

pugsnotdrugs19 · 01-19-2018, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandy Vagina

Hard to pull off giving the HC credit for wins... under these circumstances... wouldn't you say?

What circumstances are you speaking of?

Sandy Vagina · 01-19-2018, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

What circumstances are you speaking of?

Well for folks to give credit to an Andy team (offence) for win %....

and to not give the same credit for

... just has an unpossible credibility to it.

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RunKC · 01-19-2018, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate

It's a talent issue, cut and dried.

Nope. Reid has not had a QB like Mahomes, during his tenure as a head coach, for his entire head coaching career. I never found McNabb to be as groovy as some, but there has never been a QB of Mahomes caliber to enter Andy Reid's stratosphere until now.
I fully expect for Reid to be crowned a coaching genius by season's end.

You want talent? McNabb, Westbrook, Staley? How about the one of the best DC’s in league history? How about a staff full of Tommy Brasher, Ron Rivera, Steve Spagnuolo, Leslie Frazier, Sean McDermott, John Harbaugh, Dave Toub, Brad Childress and Pat Shurmur? Is that enough “talent” for you?

Reid had that much ****ing talent and lost at home twice to Brad Johnson and Jake ****ing Delhomme. He lost to those ****ers in the NFC Championship game.

Don’t ever say Andy “needs more talent”. It’s a bullshit excuse that is the same as “Alex needs more weapons”. The mother****er had GREAT talent in Philly and couldn’t ever get it done. Ever.

Mahomes alone isn’t changing Andy because his is what he is. He’s going to **** up in January like he always does.

mnchiefsguy · 01-19-2018, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin

Our perfect scenario would be for Mahomes to take over with Smith as a backup. Any chance ????

No, this not a perfect scenario.

Under this scenario, we do not have Smith's 17 million dollars to help out the salary cap.

Smith needs to go so we can spend that money on some defense, plain and simple.

ILChief · 01-19-2018, 08:33 PM

Take the best offer and move on, whether it's a first or a fifth

NJChiefsFan · 01-19-2018, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandy Vagina

Well for folks to give credit to an Andy team (offence) for win %....

and to not give the same credit for

... just has an unpossible credibility to it.

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True. Similar to people(not you) who defend Smith with his win % in the regular season to fight off stats for regular season. Then use the reverse to defend him in the playoffs.

Reid and Smith are very interesting cases, and not surprisingly, have created debatable results and arguments among fans. In the end it's probably true that they were both a very good and very bad combination depending on the perspective.

Reerun_KC · 01-19-2018, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR

If he continues his horizontal passing shit with Mahomes during the playoffs, I'll lick a cat

Only if this is the kitty.

Reerun_KC · 01-19-2018, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandy Vagina

Well for folks to give credit to an Andy team (offence) for win %....

and to not give the same credit for

... just has an unpossible credibility to it.

(

)

Shitty Smitty Rolled.

When failure is your best option.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 01-19-2018, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

You want talent? McNabb, Westbrook, Staley? How about the one of the best DC’s in league history? How about a staff full of Tommy Brasher, Ron Rivera, Steve Spagnuolo, Leslie Frazier, Sean McDermott, John Harbaugh, Dave Toub, Brad Childress and Pat Shurmur? Is that enough “talent” for you?

Reid had that much ****ing talent and lost at home twice to Brad Johnson and Jake ****ing Delhomme. He lost to those ****ers in the NFC Championship game.

Don’t ever say Andy “needs more talent”. It’s a bullshit excuse that is the same as “Alex needs more weapons”. The mother****er had GREAT talent in Philly and couldn’t ever get it done. Ever.

Mahomes alone isn’t changing Andy because his is what he is. He’s going to **** up in January like he always does.

Maybe Reid has just been bought and sold by the league and knows when to 'shank the punt'?

****, who knows?

You are right about the defensive setup in Philly, of course. I don't want to understate Reid's ability to fist himself none too gently, but I would like to believe that certain elements which define a person's choices and career can come together at a certain place, at a certain time, and produce a much more positive result.

If we're all going to sit here and throw the towel before the Mahomes era starts, just let me know so I can go ahead and take up a new hobby for the coming Sundays of 2018.

You see, I KNEW that the road with Smith was going nowhere from day one. ANYONE with a modicum of common sense and franchise history could see it coming a mile away. Not so with Mahomes. This is TRULY a wild card.
And **** Reid; I'll be DAMNED if I'm going to let him and his magic underwear ruin what will FINALLY be football worth watching.

jaa1025 · 01-19-2018, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Servant_KC

No he had clock mgmt, horizontal passing, red zone and ignoring his run game in Philly issues.

I'll take his problems in Philly. 4 AFC championship games, 1 SB appearance.

His offense was always one of the best in the leagues.

Safecamp · 01-19-2018, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Bewbies

There's surely some of that too.

But I'd be willing to bet a lot there's way more rhythm that is ruined from Smith not making the right read, or more likely looking down and taking off when he had a clean pocket.

Don’t get me wrong - alex suffers from tunnel vision at times. That is why he can be so inconsistent. It’s his vision. Happens to 99% of qbs sure- but you just HAVE to overcome situations as the leader.. it’s fun as hell seeing alex go off, he can zing it with the best of them when he’s on. But that 6 game stretch was just awful. He’s like your first wife.. you realize you shouldn’t settle for the first thing that’s willing to bone you multiple times.

Reerun_KC · 01-19-2018, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by jaa1025

I'll take his problems in Philly. 4 AFC championship games, 1 SB appearance.

His offense was always one of the best in the leagues.

Only way it happens is if Mahomes is a HOF QB.

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