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Old 03-13-2018, 06:17 AM  
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Chiefs Sign Anthony Hitchens

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Old 10-16-2018, 11:51 AM   #466
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So you need all pro freak athleticism talents like prime DJ, prime Berry, prime Houston to run Muttons scheme. Its truly a terrible scheme. If you dont have a freak talent you are dead in the water. Exactly how it was on the Rex Ryan Jets.
Go back to Buddy's defenses and look at the talent. Great players can play any scheme...
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Old 10-16-2018, 12:00 PM   #467
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Hitchens was the Will linebacker at Iowa.

And on that note, not only do they run a 4-3, they run a lot of coverage out of their base sets. They don't blitz a lot nor do they use a ton of sub packages.

Hitchens was expected to cover RBs, WRs, and pretty much anything else the offense put out there. Iowa would run base defense against Northwestern and Indiana spread offenses and for the most part, it worked.

This guy HAS the skills. It has to be Sutton.
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Old 10-16-2018, 12:06 PM   #468
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When you see the same problem with a bunch of guys...that pretty much lets you know what the issue is. I don't think anyone who watched Raglands college games or scouting stuff who wanted the Chiefs to draft him ever read or saw him and thought he looks tentative...he never played that way ever, neither did Hitchens yet now they do.
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Old 10-16-2018, 12:11 PM   #469
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A lot of Dallas fans said Hitchens was a 2 down backer for them, but Chief fans didn't want to hear it.
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Old 10-16-2018, 12:14 PM   #470
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A lot of Dallas fans said Hitchens was a 2 down backer for them, but Chief fans didn't want to hear it.
Even if you buy into that, it doesn't explain how he looks bad at everything now.
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Old 10-16-2018, 12:23 PM   #471
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Living in the Dallas area, I watched nearly every game Hitchens played for the Cowboys. Always considered him a good to very good LB...playing along side Sean Lee. When the often injured Lee was out, the quality of Hitchens play dropped substantially.

The Cowboys were desperate for LB's and offered Hitchens a new contract, but the Chiefs ridiculous offer was too rich for them. They chose to draft another LB instead (Leighton Vander Esch) and continued to hope that Jaylon Smith's nerve damage would finish healing (it did).

The Cowboys now have 2 inexpensive, but young and talented linebackers to go along with Sean Lee. The Chiefs have an expensive, overrated linebacker who needs to be paired with a quality linebacker to maximize his abilities. There's simply not one on the team right now.

Bottom line, the Chiefs overpaid for Hitchens and Sammy Watkins. I'm still not sure why they signed Watkins. Mahomes had plenty of weapons on offense and Watkins was simply a luxury. His money could have been better utilized on the defensive side of the ball. Through Week 6, the Chiefs have statistically the worst defense in the NFL and Hitchens just isn't good enough to make a difference. Moves need to be made for the Chiefs to go deep into the playoffs...this year.
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Old 10-16-2018, 12:30 PM   #472
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Even if you buy into that, it doesn't explain how he looks bad at everything now.
Exactly.
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Old 10-16-2018, 12:35 PM   #473
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Living in the Dallas area, I watched nearly every game Hitchens played for the Cowboys. Always considered him a good to very good LB...playing along side Sean Lee. When the often injured Lee was out, the quality of Hitchens play dropped substantially.

The Cowboys were desperate for LB's and offered Hitchens a new contract, but the Chiefs ridiculous offer was too rich for them. They chose to draft another LB instead (Leighton Vander Esch) and continued to hope that Jaylon Smith's nerve damage would finish healing (it did).

The Cowboys now have 2 inexpensive, but young and talented linebackers to go along with Sean Lee. The Chiefs have an expensive, overrated linebacker who needs to be paired with a quality linebacker to maximize his abilities. There's simply not one on the team right now.

Bottom line, the Chiefs overpaid for Hitchens and Sammy Watkins. I'm still not sure why they signed Watkins. Mahomes had plenty of weapons on offense and Watkins was simply a luxury. His money could have been better utilized on the defensive side of the ball. Through Week 6, the Chiefs have statistically the worst defense in the NFL and Hitchens just isn't good enough to make a difference. Moves need to be made for the Chiefs to go deep into the playoffs...this year.

Totally agree about Watkins. They should have paid Albert Wilson and used the rest on defense.
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Old 10-16-2018, 12:36 PM   #474
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Totally agree about Watkins. They should have paid Albert Wilson and used the rest on defense.
The brought in Williams and Hitchens early. They signed umpteen defensive backs. They dedicated almost an entire draft to the defense.

Do you think spending more money on the defense was ever in the plan? Furthermore, would it have helped?

I have my doubts.
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Old 10-16-2018, 12:39 PM   #475
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We are only scratching the surface with Watkins, he will win us games in the future.


That said, Albert Wilson already is. Man that guy was one we should have held on to.
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Old 10-16-2018, 12:43 PM   #476
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Tyreek said Watkins was doubled all night, that's why he only got two catches.
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It is as I feared; fancy pants nerd pocket protector-defense. "Academic" defense.
And not a good fit for KC. I prefer the opposite; gonzo first, strategy/chess/finesse second.
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Old 10-16-2018, 01:04 PM   #479
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It is as I feared; fancy pants nerd pocket protector-defense. "Academic" defense.
And not a good fit for KC. I prefer the opposite; gonzo first, strategy/chess/finesse second.
Just remember, that mentality is likely coming just as much from the head coach as from the defensive coordinator.

Andy is calling the shots here.
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So you need all pro freak athleticism talents like prime DJ, prime Berry, prime Houston to run Muttons scheme. Its truly a terrible scheme. If you dont have a freak talent you are dead in the water. Exactly how it was on the Rex Ryan Jets.
And when we had those freaks, what was the best we achieved?

A whole lot of turnovers in 2013, 2015 and 2016. Some decent play in spite of injuries in 2014. Pretty much from 2016 and onward, though, it's been bend-AND-break defense.

This shit**** form we're in now is the culmination of that many years of Sutton.
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