Would you trade Justin houston and our 2nd

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

To the Browns for #4. Houstons cap savings would be 20 mil.

[KChiefs1]

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt...199700089.html

February 12, 2018

When the Chiefs trade Alex Smith to Washington for cornerback Kendall Fuller and a third-round pick in this year’s draft, they will save $15.6 million in salary-cap space.

The deal won’t be done until the first day of the new league year, which begins at 3 p.m. on March 14.

Will the Chiefs look at other cost-cutting measures, such as releasing players? USA Today’s Steven Ruiz thinks it’s possible. He ranked the top 25 NFL stars who could be cut during the offseason, and two Chiefs are on the list.

1. Justin Houston, OLB Chiefs ($15 million)

Houston has struggled to stay on the field and his production has slipped as a result. With the Chiefs looking to get younger on defense, Houston will have a hard time sticking around. He can still be a Pro Bowl level player if he can stay healthy.

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by KChiefs1

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt...199700089.html

February 12, 2018

When the Chiefs trade Alex Smith to Washington for cornerback Kendall Fuller and a third-round pick in this year’s draft, they will save $15.6 million in salary-cap space.

The deal won’t be done until the first day of the new league year, which begins at 3 p.m. on March 14.

Will the Chiefs look at other cost-cutting measures, such as releasing players? USA Today’s Steven Ruiz thinks it’s possible. He ranked the top 25 NFL stars who could be cut during the offseason, and two Chiefs are on the list.

1. Justin Houston, OLB Chiefs ($15 million)

Houston has struggled to stay on the field and his production has slipped as a result. With the Chiefs looking to get younger on defense, Houston will have a hard time sticking around. He can still be a Pro Bowl level player if he can stay healthy.

0% chance we cut Houston this offseason.

[Simply Red]

Originally Posted by RealSNR

I know Hog Farmer is trying to Demonpenz us all, but I still want to bring this up:

Who cares? If Mahomes goes down, I have zero reason to watch this year's Chiefs anyway. May as well take the top 5 pick in 2019 as a consolation prize.

I love you (you know that) but I don't think this is the case - I think Hoglet is looking at cap freedom here, and that was his agenda in this enigmatic thread.

[BlackOp]

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

0% chance we cut Houston this offseason.

You're probably correct....but I'd argue that the $20 million that KC is paying him is for the pre-injury, 22 sack version of Houston. That kind of money is reserved for "elite" players that take over games or shine in big moments...he's done that exactly once vs. Denver's terrible o-line. He graded out at #15 in PFF. Which is still good...but not someone irreplaceable.

$20 million buys you 2-3 very good to great FA players....if the Chiefs can move him, they should. IMO. In Dorsey's defense...nobody saw Parker inadvertently ruining his chance to be one of the greats.

Think of trading (dumping) Houston for Tyrann Mathieu/Sherman/ Talib AND Muhammad Wilkerson? Would you do it? That is strictly from a financial angle...Shit, a Sherman/Mathieu/Berry/Fuller/Peters back end would be amazing...

[Nickhead]

anyone who isn't either on some sort of rookie contract, or isn't outside of one or two years of a new contract, is expendable. aside from berry, he beat cancer

[Danguardace]

Cleveland might be dumb but they are not that dumb.

Thing is what are you going to do with $20m just over pay on somebody else probably.

[Red Dawg]

We will be moving on from two long time Chiefs. DJ and Hali. This is not the year to send Houston packing. Next season i would most likely trade him out of conference. Cutting him puts him on a division rival team most likely and that would be a mistake.

[Danguardace]

Originally Posted by Red Dawg

We will be moving on from two long time Chiefs. DJ and Hali. This is not the year to send Houston packing. Next season i would most likely trade him out of conference. Cutting him puts him on a division rival team most likely and that would be a mistake.

I would say put him in a position where he is not the teams best pass rusher, run defender and put in coverage so much. Get pieces around him.

Let him focus on rushing the passer

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by BlackOp

You're probably correct....but I'd argue that the $20 million that KC is paying him is for the pre-injury, 22 sack version of Houston. That kind of money is reserved for "elite" players that take over games or shine in big moments...he's done that exactly once vs. Denver's terrible o-line. He graded out at #15 in PFF. Which is still good...but not someone irreplaceable.

$20 million buys you 2-3 very good to great FA players....if the Chiefs can move him, they should. IMO. In Dorsey's defense...nobody saw Parker inadvertently ruining his chance to be one of the greats.

Think of trading (dumping) Houston for Tyrann Mathieu/Sherman/ Talib AND Muhammad Wilkerson? Would you do it? That is strictly from a financial angle...Shit, a Sherman/Mathieu/Berry/Fuller/Peters back end would be amazing...

Well to start: you're not going to get any combination of Mathieu, Sherman, Talib and Wilkerson for $20m AAV. Even if you did, who's going to rush the passer?

We can't even entertain the thought of cutting Houston until next offseason. More realistically, unless he actually has a bad season, he'll be here until 2020.

[TimeForWasp]

I originally thought this was outlandish, but starting to think maybe so.

[TimeForWasp]

I also think we should do new cool uniforms.

[SuperBowl4]

I'd trade Bob Sutton for Mr. Irrelevant in the upcoming draft

[CoMoChief]

Safeties need upgrading a great deal....and EB is gonna be 30yrs old coming off of a major injury.

Parker and Sorensen are both trash. Its good to know that the S talent in this years draft class is deep.

Chiefs need to look to upgrade in that dept. I mean really Chiefs need major upgrades at all levels on defense.

[Chief_For_Life58]

We need pass rushers. why would we trade houston

[Chief_For_Life58]

and this brings me back to my other points children.....dont....smoke....crack