The Myth that Nelson Sucks

[staylor26]

Simply put, it’s wrong.

BJ Kissel
BJ Kissel
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#Chiefs CB Steven Nelson (92.7 PFF Overall Grade) was
@PFF
's top-graded player last night. He was targeted six times and only allowed two receptions for 33 yards.

Over the past six games, Nelson has only allowed 264 yards while being targeted 42 times.

He’s having a pretty good season, and at least half of CP thinks he sucks. It’s a shame.

[Reerun_KC]

But Staylor said he doesnt suck.

[The Franchise]

The funny thing is....is that I think Nelson could succeed as a zone corner. Unfortunately he ****ing sucks at man and his attitude is complete shit. He can go elsewhere and get overpaid.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

Dude has a shitty attitude towards fans. For all the shit people talk about Marcus Peters, he never behaved this way towards the fans.

Nelson always comes off as so cynical with a real "**** the fan" vibe.

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

Nelson is such a ****ing tool. Dude can’t take any sort of criticism and acts like he’s prime Deion.

Get the **** off of this team and never come back. In fact, please be a Bronco or Raider.

Originally Posted by KChiefs1

I hate his overall demeanor. The QB can overthrow a wide open WR & Nelson acts like he made the play.

All of the above.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

http://walterfootball.com/freeagents2019CB.php


My god the free agent corner class is awful when Nelson is number 2

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Showtime

http://walterfootball.com/freeagents2019CB.php

My god the free agent corner class is awful when Nelson is number 2

Desir had a good year this year but it was just one year and somebody is going to way overpay for him.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by Showtime

http://walterfootball.com/freeagents2019CB.php


My god the free agent corner class is awful when Nelson is number 2

Draft two and roll with a rookie, Ward and Fuller.

[O.city]

I'd keep an eye on Jonathan Jones, if the Pats were to let him go.

Pj Williams or Justin Coleman is another couple of lowkey guys that could work out.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

But Staylor said he doesnt suck.

He doesn’t. He’s not very good either, but to say he sucks is a reach. Guys that suck don’t get paid like he’s about to this offseason.

It’s amazing that some of you look at everything so black and white.

[Buckweath]

Nelson is a good player.

He is far from a shutdown corner but for a few millions per season, I would have kept him.

[O.city]

He's not a bad player, but he's basically a guy you can get in the 3rd round of every draft every year.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Buckweath

Nelson is a good player.

He is far from a shutdown corner but for a few millions per season, I would have kept him.

He's going to get a lot more than a "few million" this offseason.

He's going to get a lot more than he's actually worth because the market isn't great.

[Buckweath]

Originally Posted by O.city

He's not a bad player, but he's basically a guy you can get in the 3rd round of every draft every year.

I would say he's clearly better than your average 3rd round CB.

He was another good pick by John Dorsey.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Buckweath

I would say he's clearly better than your average 3rd round CB.

He was another good pick by John Dorsey.

Agreed. He was better than your average 3rd round corner AND he'd gone through the 2-3 year development curve you usually see with guys like that any way.

Corner's not an easy position for guys to pick up immediately, especially not guys who aren't physically ahead of anyone anymore. Nelson was probably a top 15% athlete in college and fell immediately into the bottom tiers among his piers when he got to the pros. That's a massive adjustment and one that many mid-round corners simply never make.

I think there's a pretty good chance that, unless we throw a 1st round pick at the position, the guy that replaces Nelson next season will be worse than he is. And frankly, even if we do use a 1 on a CB, the odds are still long that he's better than Nelson was last season in year 1.

But it's almost certainly the route we have go. The Chiefs can't afford to bring Nelson back at anything approximating his market value. Given his physical limitations, I'm not sure they should even if they COULD get him at the Sorensen rate (which would likely represent a massive discount over what he'll get in the market).

Still shaking my head at how badly he got roasted by Dorsett on that long TD. That was just awful.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Originally Posted by The Franchise

Draft two and roll with a rookie, Ward and Fuller.

I’m thinking they find a safety in FA, draft CBs and DL early...

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Still shaking my head at how badly he got roasted by Dorsett on that long TD. That was just awful.

That's Nelson in a nutshell though. Locks it down for 3 quarters and then gives up the biggest play of the game, although usually it's a PI penalty more often than not.

He's not bad. But it's really hard to argue, in a league that is so much about big plays, that he's "good". He's just way too streaky. He has physical limitations as you mentioned and he doesn't have the best technique either in trail (he NEVER looks for the ball).

The bottom line is that somebody out there is going to pay him A LOT more than he's actually worth this offseason.