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Old 11-23-2021, 12:45 PM  
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*** 2022 Mock Draft Megathread ***

Got a mock? Pop it in this thread. Include a picture if you want. Explain your reasoning if you want. Talk about your crushes... if you want.

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The Draft Network This mock seems to be the most accurate site right now, so I go with this one. I don't pay for it, so no trades here. The plan is for this to be my last mock. I'm going to do it differently, though. I'm running 3 scenarios, and eschewing the 7th round picks, which I would use on a big swings on athleticism and potential. Lotto tickets. James Houston IV is one of them. Note: I used PFF to simulate the trade action, then manually backed up in the 2 "trade" drafts to make selections. Laborious, but gives you best of both worlds, IMO. I think PFF's trade tool is the best, but its board is whack.

Draft slot: 29

Scenario 1: The Chiefs sit pat with their picks and don't make any moves at all. Seems the least likely, but hey...
1.29 | George Karlaftis, DE, Purdue.
1.30 | Boye Mafe, DE, Minnesota.
2.50 | George Pickens, WR, Georgia.
2.62 | Travis Jones, DT, UConn.
3.94 | Zyon McCollum, CB, Sam Houston State.
3.103(Comp for Poles) | Troy Andersen, LB, Montana State.
4.121 | Coby Bryant, CB, Cincinnati.
4.135 | Velus Jones, Jr., Tennessee

Scenario 1 Debrief:
So, sitting and waiting to see what comes to me was pretty successful here. The Chiefs FLOOD the defensive line with reinforcements, including at least 1 ready-made starter and two guys who should - at minimum - be in 50/50 rotations at their spots by year end. The Chiefs still get a big outside WR with tantalizing potential. They add some crazy athletic small-school guys, and a mid-round corner who just fits in the system, and a dynamo return man who might be more at WR.

This looks pretty good. Though I have a hard time believing Karlaftis just falls to 29...

Scenario 2: The Chiefs get aggressive and trade up. But for what? In this case, let's go wide receiver. In this run, Kansas City trades picks 29, 62, and a 2023 3rd to Houston for pick 13 and a 2023 4th, because they ARE as obsessed with a WR as people expect and are aggressive to go get him when the board falls right. They then trade BACK from 30 to 35 with the Jets, also including pick 94 in order to get 69 back. Then, last but not least, KC gets aggressive one more time and moves 103 and 121 for 85 from New England, leaving the Chiefs with 6 picks in the first four rounds.
1.13 | Jameson Williams, WR, Alabama.
2.35 | Cam Thomas, DE, San Diego State.
2.50 | Jalen Pitre, S, Baylor.
3.69 | Zachary Carter, DT, Florida.
3.85 | Sam Williams, DE, Ole Miss.
4.135 | Jaylen Watson, CB, Washington State

Scenario 2 Debrief:
I'm not saying KC should do this or even that I think they will (more on that in a few minutes). I'm just saying, man, what will it look like if the Chiefs get aggressive a few times AND are doing the big move for a WR? In this scenario, KC obviously believes Williams is a game-changer at the NFL level and is taking a small 2022 hit to make 2023+ better. The defensive line still gets reinforced, but the reinforcements are all a shade worse than the sit-pat draft option. If you like Kingsley Enagbare or Josh PAscal more than Thomas, I get it and wouldn't quibble at one of those guys instead. Logan Hall, too. Pitre is such a screaming perfect fit for KC's D. Carter is a great physical talent you can dream about coaching up. Williams' utility is known and gives them a true RE option to pair against their higher-drafted bigger guy. Watson is a developmental corner.

I don't love it. I think Pitre makes the secondary a lot better and makes it easier to move on from Thornhill after 22. They have improved the defensive rotation, though one of the DEs would need to outperform expectations in Year 1 to get it to the same level as Scenario 1. In all, giving up the 2 extra selections in the top 4 rounds hurts the depth you can build, but I think it's more like what KC will do.

Scenario 3: Same movements as #2
1.13 | Jermaine Johnson II, DE, Florida State.
2.35 | Christian Watson, WR, North Dakota State.
2.50 | Sam Williams, DE, Ole Miss.
3.69 | Bryan Cook, S, Cincinnati.
3.85 | Martin Emerson, CB, Miss. State.
4.135 | Braxton Jones, T, Southern Utah

Scenario 3 Debrief:
This is the type of situation where I see KC paying the price to move up... if Johnson falls this far, I'd be shocked if KC isn't aggressively moving up. With this run, I take a risky but high upside WR in Watson (but you could sub in Pickens or Jahan Dotson or Tolbert or Metchie or Skyy Moore or really any of those tier 2 guys here if you prefer). The secondary reinforcements aren't flashy but are good fits.

In this one, I think the plan has to become adding either another safety or corner in free agency before the season. Ideally, it's someone who can handle the slot and let Sneed thriver on the outside. The DL gets a major boost and some potential star power in Johnson and Williams, and the OL gets another T option and potential long-term starter to develop.

Having completed the exercise and looking at the scenariors, I like the first one the most. But it really does come down to how the board breaks.

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Old 04-28-2022, 08:28 AM   #1231
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Assuming y'all are using the PFF mock generator - I haven't had Pickens fall below 36 yet.
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Old 04-28-2022, 08:29 AM   #1232
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Assuming y'all are using the PFF mock generator - I haven't had Pickens fall below 36 yet.
I prefer the layout on PFN.
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Old 04-28-2022, 08:43 AM   #1233
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I prefer the layout on PFN.
I must have a plug-in issue or something. I'm trying to trade up with NE for Jermaine Johnson and the propose trade link is dead.
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Old 04-28-2022, 08:47 AM   #1234
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All three major boards are all over the place. I like TheDraftNetwork but I'm not paying to be able to trade.

PFN has a good trade system but they offer some reeruned trades. I had Carolina offer me their 5th, 2023 1st and 2023 2nd to trade up for a guard.

PFF is pretty good with their trade system but there are some players on their board that are way off.
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Old 04-28-2022, 08:48 AM   #1235
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PFN has the best simulator.

TDN has the best rankings.

PFF has the ultimate WTF board that makes it much harder.
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Old 04-28-2022, 08:59 AM   #1236
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PFN has the best simulator.

TDN has the best rankings.

PFF has the ultimate WTF board that makes it much harder.
I like PFF's trade simulator because I can see what they will and won't accept....and it's GENERALLY close to the trade value chart.

PFN can be a bitch to make trades even if it's close or better than what the trade value chart says. And then the team will accept someone else's offer that was way worse than mine. Makes no sense.
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Old 04-28-2022, 10:01 AM   #1237
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29.
Drake London
WR USC
KC

30.
Arnold Ebiketie
EDGE Penn State
KC


50.
Cameron Thomas
EDGE San Diego State
KC

66.
John Metchie III
WR Alabama
trade
KC

94.
Jalyn Armour-Davis
CB Alabama
KC

97.
Damarri Mathis
CB Pittsburgh
trade
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Charlie Kolar
TE Iowa State
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JT Woods
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I like PFF's trade simulator because I can see what they will and won't accept....and it's GENERALLY close to the trade value chart.

PFN can be a bitch to make trades even if it's close or better than what the trade value chart says. And then the team will accept someone else's offer that was way worse than mine. Makes no sense.
Gotcha. I honestly don’t do trades on any of them, so I wouldn’t have noticed.
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Old 04-28-2022, 10:15 AM   #1239
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I don’t get how you wouldn’t be happy with this draft? There are a lot of quality players that could be really good. Maybe not all pro’s but there’s a lot of Nick Bolton, Charvarious Ward and JuJu Smith-Schuster caliber players that are quite good.

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I don’t get how you wouldn’t be happy with this draft? There are a lot of quality players that could be really good. Maybe not all pro’s but there’s a lot of Nick Bolton, Charvarious Ward and JuJu Smith-Schuster caliber players that are quite good.

What an irrational over dramatic take
Are you referring to me or someone else?
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Are you referring to me or someone else?
I think he's talking about Matt Lane's tweet.
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Here's how I think it actually works out with our first 4 rounds:

Chiefs trade up with Houston for 13 and 37 for 29, 30, 62, 135.
13 Jermaine Johnson, EDGE
37 Logan Hall, DL
50 George Pickens, WR
94 Tariq Woolen, CB
121 Danny Gray, WR
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Old 04-28-2022, 09:37 PM   #1243
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29. Daxton Hill
S Michigan

36. Arnold Ebiketie
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50. Boye Mafe
EDGE Minnesota

62. George Pickens
WR Georgia

67. Travis Jones
DT Connecticut

94. Calvin Austin III
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103. Zyon McCollum
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135. Pierre Strong Jr.
RB South Dakota State

233. Velus Jones Jr.
WR Tennessee

243. Ryan Van Demark
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251. Jeremiah Gemmel
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259. Dylan Parham
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I think he's talking about Matt Lane's tweet.
Speaking of that douche



They were talking about trading up for Karlaftis and McDuffie was high on their draft guide.

But of course he couldn’t at least give it a solid B.

Had to throw the minus in there.

**** this guy. At least Kent Swanson was happy. I guess he’s not as bad as Matt Lane.
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Old 04-30-2022, 11:30 AM   #1245
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Hey Mahomesmagic-

I'd just like to point out that they're taking kickers and punters before your guy Shakir.

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