Chiefs Would you rather be 8-0 with Alex Smith or 3-5 with Geno? - Page 29

-King- · 10-28-2013, 01:27 PM

Our offense is terrible with Alex Smith. It would likely be worse with Geno given his propensity to turn the ball over and give the other teams points through pick 6s and returned fumbles for TDs. So seeing as how we barely win with the offense we have now, we'd have likely lost more than a few games if we had Geno as our QB.

But would you rather take those growing pains with Geno, or be 8-0 with Alex and be in the driver seat toward a first round bye in the playoffs?

**Easy 6** · 10-29-2013, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Pam Oliver's Forehead

The defense won last week's game by, you know, actually doing their job while the offense sat around and generated all of 31 yards in the second half.

98 yards for a touchdown against the, at the time, leagues #1 defense.

That's called putting the team on your back.

keg in kc · 10-29-2013, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by scott free

The 98 yard drive for a touchdown against NY doesn't count?

The 98 yard drive for a touchdown last week doesn't count?

Awesome 4th quarter winning drives in the 2nd quarter there.

Hammock Parties · 10-29-2013, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by scott free

98 yards for a touchdown against the, at the time, leagues #1 defense.

That's called putting the team on your back.

Oh, you were talking about the Texans game.

Yeah, our QB really put the team on his back with that 17-point outburst and his 0 pass TDs.

**Easy 6** · 10-29-2013, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

Awesome 4th quarter winning drives in the 2nd quarter there.

I didn't say game winning drives.

But they were damn good drives.

You could even say, clutch.

keg in kc · 10-29-2013, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by scott free

I didn't say game winning drives.

But they were damn good drives.

You could even say, clutch.

So in other words, while answering a question about Smith putting the team on his back and willing them to win, you didn't actually think "game winning" was requisite.

Okay then.

Mosbonian · 10-29-2013, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

One more time. Geno would not have had to be selected 1.1

And one more time....Andy Reid didn't want him so what the heck does it matter? We weren't going to draft him because the guys who are smart enough to take us pretty much from 2-14 to 8-0 thus far didn't want him as our QB.

Hammock Parties · 10-29-2013, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

So in other words, while answering a question about Smith putting the team on his back and willing them to win, you didn't actually think "game winning" was requisite.

Okay then.

Simple reference:

Did Alex Smith generate a TD drive?

If the answer is yes, it was surely something awesome and/or critical.

**Easy 6** · 10-29-2013, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

So in other words, while answering a question about Smith putting the team on his back and willing them to win, you didn't actually think "game winning" was requisite.

Okay then.

Do you think we win the Texans game without that drive?

Didn't think so.

Hammock Parties · 10-29-2013, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by scott free

Do you think we win the Texans game without that drive?

Didn't think so.

By that logic every friggin scoring drive in one-score games are "clutch."

**Easy 6** · 10-29-2013, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Pam Oliver's Forehead

By that logic every friggin scoring drive in one-score games are "clutch."

Without that very long, methodical drive against the #1 defense, we don't win that game, period.

You can argue semantics, but it was a critical drive against a good defense.

keg in kc · 10-29-2013, 04:18 PM

Talk about a sliding scale. 2nd quarter drives being labeled "critical".

Although I guess when your offense can't do anything in quarters 3 and 4, the 2nd quarter is sort of like the end of the game for them.

Deberg_1990 · 10-29-2013, 04:23 PM

Mellinger is even chiming in on this Chiefs fans negativity phenomenon.

http://www.kansascity.com/2013/10/28...frusrated.html

Things happen fast in sports, especially the NFL, and this is something you’ve probably heard a million times — including here.

But even in that context, there is something completely bizarre going on with at least some Chiefs fans. I read it in my emails, hear it in my voicemails, see it on Twitter and around town talking to people:

At least some fans of a team that went 2-14 a year ago are now frustrated with the same team being 8-0, the NFL’s last undefeated team, and in control of its division and homefield advantage in the playoffs.

Now, what I’m talking about is different than the reasonable acknowledgement that the Chiefs have caught an ungodly string of breaks this year, have played a very easy schedule, and need to get better on offense.

What I’m talking about is what feels like almost a muscle memory strings of complaints and pessimism about a team that’s finally giving a starved fan base something to chew on.

Look, if nothing else, the Chiefs have what really might be the best defense in the NFL. If nothing else, it has shown itself to be a remarkably clutch defense, and like I wrote in the column, we’ll see soon enough if this can hold up against better competition.

But for right now, if you can’t enjoy these Chiefs a year removed from those Chiefs, then what’s the point of liking sports?

**doomy3** · 10-29-2013, 04:24 PM

Some people are completely insane. Upset that we "overpaid" with 2 second rounders on Alex Smith, but would be perfectly fine with us using 1.1 on a guy who no one in the NFL even wanted anywhere in the first round.

Then the scale slides to "Well we could have had him in the second round."

Many of the people who wish we would have taken him in the second are people who have argued for years that it is impossible to win a Super Bowl without a QB that you draft in the top of the first round.

keg in kc · 10-29-2013, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

But for right now, if you can’t enjoy these Chiefs a year removed from those Chiefs, then what’s the point of liking sports?

Some people can actually enjoy them and think critically about them.

Crazy I know.

Deberg_1990 · 10-29-2013, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

Some people can actually enjoy them and think critically about them.

Crazy I know.

Mellinger hasnt been around long enough to understand longtime Chiefs fans frustration, so he views it as "huh?"

What is he, like 23?

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keg in kc oxymoron Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: OP/KC/Whatever Casino cash: $9556299	Talk about a sliding scale. 2nd quarter drives being labeled "critical". Although I guess when your offense can't do anything in quarters 3 and 4, the 2nd quarter is sort of like the end of the game for them.
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10-29-2013, 04:23 PM	#432
Deberg_1990 In Search of a Life Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Antonio Tx. Casino cash: $3914454	Mellinger is even chiming in on this Chiefs fans negativity phenomenon. http://www.kansascity.com/2013/10/28...frusrated.html Things happen fast in sports, especially the NFL, and this is something you’ve probably heard a million times — including here. But even in that context, there is something completely bizarre going on with at least some Chiefs fans. I read it in my emails, hear it in my voicemails, see it on Twitter and around town talking to people: At least some fans of a team that went 2-14 a year ago are now frustrated with the same team being 8-0, the NFL’s last undefeated team, and in control of its division and homefield advantage in the playoffs. Now, what I’m talking about is different than the reasonable acknowledgement that the Chiefs have caught an ungodly string of breaks this year, have played a very easy schedule, and need to get better on offense. What I’m talking about is what feels like almost a muscle memory strings of complaints and pessimism about a team that’s finally giving a starved fan base something to chew on. Look, if nothing else, the Chiefs have what really might be the best defense in the NFL. If nothing else, it has shown itself to be a remarkably clutch defense, and like I wrote in the column, we’ll see soon enough if this can hold up against better competition. But for right now, if you can’t enjoy these Chiefs a year removed from those Chiefs, then what’s the point of liking sports? __________________ Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning: Matt once made a very nice play in Seattle where he spun away from a pass rusher and hit Bowe off his back foot for a first down. One of the best plays Matt has ever made.
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10-29-2013, 04:24 PM	#433
doomy3 Supporter Join Date: Aug 2005 Casino cash: $5393539	Some people are completely insane. Upset that we "overpaid" with 2 second rounders on Alex Smith, but would be perfectly fine with us using 1.1 on a guy who no one in the NFL even wanted anywhere in the first round. Then the scale slides to "Well we could have had him in the second round." Many of the people who wish we would have taken him in the second are people who have argued for years that it is impossible to win a Super Bowl without a QB that you draft in the top of the first round.
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