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Old 02-26-2020, 10:28 PM  
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***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

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Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
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People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

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Old 11-21-2020, 04:26 PM   #47626
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My dad lives on Truman lake. He thinks it’s a hoax. I’ll be curious to hear the outcome of this meeting.
The deniers in here that think its BS that someone thinks its a hoax, need to grow up and quit neg repping and open their eyes. Poster after poster has had a run in with one or knows someone. We are all lying? Redbled lying about his Dad?

There are millions that think its a hoax. And why wouldn't they? The person they trust more than anyone in the world told them its a hoax.
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Old 11-21-2020, 04:33 PM   #47627
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The deniers in here that think its BS that someone thinks its a hoax, need to grow up and quit neg repping and open their eyes. Poster after poster has had a run in with one or knows someone. We are all lying? Redbled lying about his Dad?

There are millions that think its a hoax. And why wouldn't they? The person they trust more than anyone in the world told them its a hoax.
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Old 11-21-2020, 04:35 PM   #47628
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I wonder how many people he has killed each year not wearing a mask and spreading flu.
Preliminary CDC estimates for the 2019-2020 influenza season indicate that, as of April 4, 2020, between 24,000 and 62,000 lost their lives to the flu.

We are at 225K+ dead Americans. And the worse is yet to come. So no, its not the flu.
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Old 11-21-2020, 04:36 PM   #47629
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I wonder how many people he has killed each year not wearing a mask and spreading flu.
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Uh, 'scuse me???? Like, those people don't count because reasons. Yeah, as if!
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Preliminary CDC estimates for the 2019-2020 influenza season indicate that, as of April 4, 2020, between 24,000 and 62,000 lost their lives to the flu.

We are at 225K+ dead Americans. And the worse is yet to come. So no, its not the flu.
Told you. Those people don't count.
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Old 11-21-2020, 04:37 PM   #47630
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Well, good news is my dad is doing really well. Was released from quarantine on Thursday afternoon. He's feeling good enough he went to eat with his golfing buddies today for lunch.

Bad news is my 13 daughter just came back positive from another source. She's doing well. Feels ok, up moving around and it looks like a head cold right now.
Glad to hear about your Dad. Hope the daughter just shrugs it off too. Positive thoughts heading your way.
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Old 11-21-2020, 04:40 PM   #47631
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Preliminary CDC estimates for the 2019-2020 influenza season indicate that, as of April 4, 2020, between 24,000 and 62,000 lost their lives to the flu.

We are at 225K+ dead Americans. And the worse is yet to come. So no, its not the flu.
That wasn't my point but since you mentioned 225K died with Covid we don't know how many died from Covid.

Flu deaths are estimates. If we counted everyone that died in the US as a flu death if they tested + on a ramped up PCR test I bet we could double or triple the estimated flu deaths using the same new Covid criteria.
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Old 11-21-2020, 04:41 PM   #47632
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Old 11-21-2020, 04:42 PM   #47633
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That wasn't my point but since you mentioned 225K died with Civil we don't know how many died from Civil.

Flu deaths are estimates. If we counted everyone that died in the US as a flu death if they tested + on a ramped up PCR test I bet we could double or triple the estimated flu deaths using the same new Covid criteria.
You said flu so you had to me comparing Covid to the flu because why else would you mention the flu?

He didn't read a thing you said. He saw "flu" and went on an incoherent tangent that had nothing to do with what you said.
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Old 11-21-2020, 04:49 PM   #47634
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Preliminary CDC estimates for the 2019-2020 influenza season indicate that, as of April 4, 2020, between 24,000 and 62,000 lost their lives to the flu.

We are at 225K+ dead Americans. And the worse is yet to come. So no, its not the flu.
It's way more than that if you do the same reporting criteria. But hey they don't get paid as much as they do for covud deaths. Nothing Shady there!
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Old 11-21-2020, 04:58 PM   #47635
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It's way more than that if you do the same reporting criteria. But hey they don't get paid as much as they do for covud deaths. Nothing Shady there!
So you think that hospitals and doctors are falsely listing Medicare patients as COVID-19 cases in order to get more money from the government. Is that correct?
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So you think that hospitals and doctors are falsely listing Medicare patients as COVID-19 cases in order to get more money from the government. Is that correct?
I haven't seen one credible allegation of this actually happening. But they still love to throw it around like it's some kind of obvious fact that of course doctors and hospitals are lying and risking serious punishment for fraud - all for that sweet extra few $k per patient.
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It's way more than that if you do the same reporting criteria. But hey they don't get paid as much as they do for covud deaths. Nothing Shady there!
If they want to beat us over the head with 225,000 people died FROM covid they shouldn't be counting people who died in motorcycle accidents or get shot in the head as a Covid death.

We will eventually get a handle on it but I suspect a bunch are people who were dying anyway that got coded incorrectly on the way out.
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Old 11-21-2020, 05:13 PM   #47638
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If they want to beat us over the head with 225,000 people died FROM covid they shouldn't be counting people who died in motorcycle accidents or get shot in the head as a Covid death.

We will eventually get a handle on it but I suspect a bunch are people who were dying anyway that got coded incorrectly on the way out.
How many of the 250,000 COVID-9 deaths do you think were counted like that?

As to the one incident in Florida which you cite, that death was removed and isn't included in Florida's COVID-19 death figures.
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Good to hear about your Dad. Your daughter will be fine. Just keep an eye on her breathing and fever levels.
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Old 11-21-2020, 05:24 PM   #47640
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Not saying its a hoax. But i know many people who had it with little to no symptoms. As a super spreader, the rest of the people's family tested negative. I don't know a single person who has died from it either. Again, not saying it's a hoax, but definitely think its being blown out of proportion. A 95% to 99.7% recovery rate too. I don't mean to offend anyone who knows someone who has passed from this.
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