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oaklandhater · 03-13-2018, 11:22 AM

BREAKING: Kirk Cousins is expected to sign with the #Vikings, on a 3-year, $84M contract, fully guaranteed. ESPN first to report.
— NFL Update (@MySportsUpdate) March 13, 2018

Chiefshrink · 03-13-2018, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6

On one hand, it really seems like the Vikings are ****ing themselves guaranteeing so much money to a glorified game manager with a truly terrible record against winning teams

On the other, that defense is good enough to carry him through many close contests... run the shit out of the ball, play great defense, and Cousins will probably be ok for them, better than anyone they've had in while at least

They're the best fit for him

Cousins is Alex Smith but will stay in the pocket and go deep who isn't as athletic as AS but essentially the same kind of QB who will not take you to a SB on his back but to your point if all the pieces are in place could very well do so.

KC still has not won anything big and yes the Vikings are taking a big chance in this GC thing.

Hydrae · 03-13-2018, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by SAUTO

have you watched cousins play?

The guy threw for 4900 25 and 12 then followed it up with 4100 27 and 13.

Only like 6 guys have ever thrown for 5k. IIRC

He's not a game manager. He just hasn't been able to win big games yet

4 of them are probably Brees.

**Easy 6** · 03-13-2018, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefshrink

Cousins is Alex Smith but will stay in the pocket and go deep who isn't as athletic as AS but essentially the same kind of QB who will not take you to a SB on his back but to your point if all the pieces are in place could very well do so.

KC still has not won anything big and yes the Vikings are taking a big chance in this GC thing.

Would only disagree so far as that he is Alex Smith, I earlier gave him the game manager tag then took it back... precisely because he usually is NOT a game manager, yet could maybe use a bit more of that

Its hard to define, but its like he has a second tier arm with a first tier mentality

Dude is a fiery, risk taking player... who should probably tone himself down a bit

Anyway meh, what the CHIEFS are doing is too exciting to get too wrapped up in this sideshow

**SAUTO** · 03-13-2018, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Hydrae

4 of them are probably Brees.

Actually i thought 6 players.

Its been done 9 times . By 5 players.

Brees is the only one to do it more than once

ThaVirus · 03-13-2018, 08:27 PM

That’s a weird situation. IIRC, there was a season where like three QBs threw for over 5,000 yards. Since then we’ve had several seasons where not even one guy eclipsed the mark.

cooper barrett · 03-13-2018, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus

That’s a weird situation. IIRC, there was a season where like three QBs threw for over 5,000 yards. Since then we’ve had several seasons where not even one guy eclipsed the mark.

I think the NFL redefined "what is a catch" in there somewhere.

**kysirsoze** · 03-13-2018, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by SAUTO

Actually i thought 6 players.

Its been done 9 times . By 5 players.

Brees is the only one to do it more than once

Might need to check that math.

**Indian Chief** · 03-13-2018, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by SAUTO

Actually i thought 6 players.

Its been done 9 times . By 5 players.

Brees is the only one to do it more than once

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Originally Posted by kysirsoze

Might need to check that math.

1 Peyton Manning 5,477 2013 DEN
2 Drew Brees 5,476 2011 NOR
3 Tom Brady 5,235 2011 NWE
4 Drew Brees 5,208 2016 NOR
5 Drew Brees 5,177 2012 NOR
6 Drew Brees 5,162 2013 NOR
7 Dan Marino+ 5,084 1984 MIA
8 Drew Brees 5,069 2008 NOR
9 Matthew Stafford 5,038 2011 DET

**SAUTO** · 03-13-2018, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by kysirsoze

Might need to check that math.

I did

Where was I wrong?

**SAUTO** · 03-13-2018, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Chief

1 Peyton Manning 5,477 2013 DEN
2 Drew Brees 5,476 2011 NOR
3 Tom Brady 5,235 2011 NWE
4 Drew Brees 5,208 2016 NOR
5 Drew Brees 5,177 2012 NOR
6 Drew Brees 5,162 2013 NOR
7 Dan Marino+ 5,084 1984 MIA
8 Drew Brees 5,069 2008 NOR
9 Matthew Stafford 5,038 2011 DET

Or this

**kysirsoze** · 03-13-2018, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Chief

1 Peyton Manning 5,477 2013 DEN
2 Drew Brees 5,476 2011 NOR
3 Tom Brady 5,235 2011 NWE
4 Drew Brees 5,208 2016 NOR
5 Drew Brees 5,177 2012 NOR
6 Drew Brees 5,162 2013 NOR
7 Dan Marino+ 5,084 1984 MIA
8 Drew Brees 5,069 2008 NOR
9 Matthew Stafford 5,038 2011 DET

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Originally Posted by SAUTO

I did

Where was I wrong?

Well apparently you weren't. For some reason I read your original post as Brees doing it twice not "more than once" and I opened my mouth. Carry on.

**SAUTO** · 03-13-2018, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by kysirsoze

Well apparently you weren't. For some reason I read your original post as Brees doing it twice not "more than once" and I opened my mouth. Carry on.

ThaVirus · 03-13-2018, 09:53 PM

Brees is such a baller stat whore.

Where does he fall on the best QB of all time list? Is he top 8? Top 10?

**SAUTO** · 03-13-2018, 10:02 PM

Brees threw for 4300 yards last year and they rushed for around 2k.

Damn

chiefzilla1501 · 03-13-2018, 10:21 PM

I think it's really interesting that teams are throwing around lots of short-term deals with more guaranteed money. Not a bad idea for either side. The team can get rid of a stopgap quickly. The player gets to pocket the same amount of money in 2-3 years that they would probably make in twice that amount of time. All while playing in "prove it" mode where they can make even more money the next contract. I mean, Case Keenum is going to make $18M per year. Chew on that. Cousins, Bortles, Keenum, Watkins... all probably could have taken longer term deals with more years virtually guaranteed.

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chiefzilla1501 In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2008 Casino cash: $2194497	I think it's really interesting that teams are throwing around lots of short-term deals with more guaranteed money. Not a bad idea for either side. The team can get rid of a stopgap quickly. The player gets to pocket the same amount of money in 2-3 years that they would probably make in twice that amount of time. All while playing in "prove it" mode where they can make even more money the next contract. I mean, Case Keenum is going to make $18M per year. Chew on that. Cousins, Bortles, Keenum, Watkins... all probably could have taken longer term deals with more years virtually guaranteed.
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