Watchmen HBO

[Sure-Oz]

First teaser. Intrigued.

https://youtu.be/zymgtV99Rko

[big nasty kcnut]

Yeah it was weird seeing they brought up the riots here. I was like i understood that reference.

[Baby Lee]

Since so many hadn't heard of the Tulsa riots, I'll mention Bass Reeves [black sheriff in the silent movie] was real too and was a lot of the basis for The Lone Ranger.

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[BigRedChief]

I've never read the comics, don't remember much about the movie. Is this a spolier thread where people talk about what happened in comics and spoil us about events coming that happened in the comics?


Do we need a non-spoiler thread and a spoiler one like we did for Game of Thrones, Avengers, Star Wars etc.?

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

I've never read the comics, don't remember much about the movie. Is this a spolier thread where people talk about what happened in comics and spoil us about events coming that happened in the comics?


Do we need a non-spoiler thread and a spoiler one like we did for Game of Thrones, Avengers, Star Wars etc.?

The comics are a separate property, that 'inspired' this series.

The creators of this show took the events of the comics and created a narrative for the world 30 years after the original story ended.

So the 'spoilers' here would be speculative only. No one has seen the material that hasn't aired on HBO.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

The comics are a separate property, that 'inspired' this series.

The creators of this show took the events of the comics and created a narrative for the world 30 years after the original story ended.

So the 'spoilers' here would be speculative only. No one has seen the material that hasn't aired on HBO.

okay cool

[TwistedChief]

I saw all the trailers/previews and was very meh about it.

But just finished the first episode and really enjoyed it.

[smith11]

if i want to watch a fictional show about how bad white people are i will just watch the nbc evening news

[unlurking]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Since so many hadn't heard of the Tulsa riots, I'll mention Bass Reeves [black sheriff in the silent movie] was real too and was a lot of the basis for The Lone Ranger.

Knew about Bass Reeves (thanks Biographics), but didn't know about Tulsa. Put me in the "I don't know" camp so far. Will definitely watch a couple more episodes, but definitely not what I expected. If anyone else is interested in the Bass Reeves biographic,,,

https://youtu.be/1Y9yjOVsuoo

[Kman34]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

That's from the comics. Veidt [you'll find out], sought a plan to avert looming nuclear war between USA/USSR. He had a giant transdimensional squid attack NYC in order to draw the nations of the world together to fight it. Speculation is that the periodic rain of squid embryos is the fallout of that grand plan.

That's why LookingGlass asked the Kavalry suspect in The Pod if he thought interdimensional attacks were a secret government plot. [ie, Kavalry members think the entire attack was a government conspiracy/creation for population/social control, which . . . . ].

I thought it was funny in one scene that the street sweeper had squid decals on it.. cleaning up the squid “Rain”..

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by smith11

if i want to watch a fictional show about how bad white people are i will just watch the nbc evening news

I thought the Topeka opening scene was totally fictional. I had no idea that there was in fact, a racial massacre of the black people in the town by the white people. ThAt wasn’t fake news.

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

That's from the comics. Veidt [you'll find out], sought a plan to avert looming nuclear war between USA/USSR. He had a giant transdimensional squid attack NYC in order to draw the nations of the world together to fight it. Speculation is that the periodic rain of squid embryos is the fallout of that grand plan.

That's why LookingGlass asked the Kavalry suspect in The Pod if he thought interdimensional attacks were a secret government plot. [ie, Kavalry members think the entire attack was a government conspiracy/creation for population/social control, which . . . . ].

Should probably clarify, in case of confusion for people who don't go back and read...

Spoiler!

If I'm remembering this correctly...

The giant squid was real, but it was not alien or interdimensional. It was created by Veidt, part of his plan, which Comedian discovered, which kicked off everything in the comic, and led to Dr. Manhattan disintegrating Rorshach, so he wouldn't reveal the details of the false flag to the world and risk the peace. Which is why I assume the Kalvary wears the masks, because somehow the information got out anyway, and Rorshach is a martyr to them.

Which is why the squid rain is so interesting and weird. It shouldn't be a thing, because there was never an actual alien squid to begin with.

And I also think too many assumptions are being made about race and politics based on the pilot. There are too many things going on that aren't clear yet, more storylines and characters yet to be introduced, and I don't think this is a show where anything is going to be simple or obvious. People are getting triggered over so many random things that will probably end up being turned on their heads by the end.

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

Should probably clarify, in case of confusion for people who don't go back and read...

Spoiler!

If I'm remembering this correctly...

The giant squid was real, but it was not alien or interdimensional. It was created by Veidt, part of his plan, which Comedian discovered, which kicked off everything in the comic, and led to Dr. Manhattan disintegrating Rorshach, so he wouldn't reveal the details of the false flag to the world and risk the peace. Which is why I assume the Kalvary wears the masks, because somehow the information got out anyway, and Rorshach is a martyr to them.

Which is why the squid rain is so interesting and weird. It shouldn't be a thing, because there was never an actual alien squid to begin with.

And I also think too many assumptions are being made about race and politics based on the pilot. There are too many things going on that aren't clear yet, more storylines and characters yet to be introduced, and I don't think this is a show where anything is going to be simple or obvious. People are getting triggered over so many random things that will probably end up being turned on their heads by the end.

Yeah, its a close matter to decide which way to swing, . . . but I kind of tried to phrase it so the contemporary viewer could be informed of events without being 'spoiled' with the level of detail available to someone who read and recalled all of the Watchmen series. Kind of the level of awareness an actual person living in this world would have, as opposed to all the revelations that came out behind closed doors. [hence the ]

If this show expands on those events, I didn't want to bias their ability to do so their way.

[Deberg_1990]

Was anyone else mad

Spoiler!

That they killed of Don Johnsons character. WTF? He was great and the character was interesting.

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Yeah, its a close matter to decide which way to swing, . . . but I kind of tried to phrase it so the contemporary viewer could be informed of events without being 'spoiled' with the level of detail available to someone who read and recalled all of the Watchmen series. Kind of the level of awareness an actual person living in this world would have, as opposed to all the revelations that came out behind closed doors. [hence the ]

If this show expands on those events, I didn't want to bias their ability to do so their way.

Yeah, figured that was your intention. Reason why I tagged my addition.

[Kman34]

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Was anyone else mad

Spoiler!

That they killed of Don Johnsons character. WTF? He was great and the character was interesting.

Yes..