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Old 09-23-2018, 08:30 AM  
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Earl Thomas a longshot to be a Chief
They just said on ESPN we were on the list of teams that he could be dealt to.
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Old 09-24-2018, 02:00 PM   #871
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You're assuming the probability of that young player panning out is higher than the probably of Thomas not staying healthy or falling off.

Based on recent history, that's a faulting assumption. They're defensive drafts have SUCKED. SUCKED.

I'm just not interested in banking picks at this point. I have zero confidence they'll use them effectively, at least not on defense.
Way to much valuing of low 1st round picks here, you think Earl Thomas won't be as productive for the next 5 years as Dee Ford has been? And he's one of the Chiefs better defensive picks.
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Old 09-24-2018, 02:00 PM   #872
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Here’s a thought: why not get EB and Sorenson back, look to trade for another player giving up less value and then go after Earl Thomas in FA next Spring?

Sign Earl Thomas, have 3 draft picks in the top 64 picks and roll on.
I like this a lot, I'd happily take Thomas on a 3 year FA deal in the off-season.
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Old 09-24-2018, 02:00 PM   #873
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I will buy all the ketchup in the world for Earl Thomas!!!!
Well thats nice but Hunt foods has no relationship to the Hunts we know as owners of the Chiefs.
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Old 09-24-2018, 02:00 PM   #874
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As well as Pat has played so far and the offense together, I kind of agree with DJ's application of knocking on the door before you knock it down.

I don't know that Thomas is really gonna be the guy to turn the D around and I think this young core probably is a year away from being ready.

I've been wrong before though.
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If that's the case, they need to get people in here that can then.

The probability that a 29 year old plays well into his early 30's isn't exactly high either.
Well he plays the same game Ed Reed did, he was productive well into his 30's.
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Old 09-24-2018, 02:01 PM   #876
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This team is a SB contender right now without Earl Thomas. And they are about to get an All Pro caliber safety back.
Nope.

They're a borderline AFC Champ contender right now.

And they aren't about to get Berry back. Until he starts practicing AT ALL, he's not coming back.

Team's aren't built on HOPE.
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As well as Pat has played so far and the offense together, I kind of agree with DJ's application of knocking on the door before you knock it down.

I don't know that Thomas is really gonna be the guy to turn the D around and I think this young core probably is a year away from being ready.

I've been wrong before though.
They're a year away from being cut....they won't play Kpass, Speaks is a ****ing scrub and well the rest of those dudes, uh huh.
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He's got more INT's than our whole team. THIS SEASON.

The only season that matters to me.
Sound thinking.
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Old 09-24-2018, 02:01 PM   #879
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If the Chiefs traded a 2nd for Thomas, let him play out the year and then let him walk away for a big contract elsewhere, wouldn't they be likely to get a 3rd back in the form of a compensatory pick (albeit a year later, iirc)? I'd be okay with that in an attempt to fix the defense.

Of course, that same reasoning is why the Seahawks are going to want more than a 3rd.
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Their recent history with draft safeties is WORSE than other defensive positions. No thanks.
Hey, let's just trade all our draft picks then. We already know they're all going to suck. Just trade for established veterans. Oh, and that thing called a salary cap? I'm sure we'll have no problem fitting even more bloated contracts.
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Nope.

They're a borderline AFC Champ contender right now.

And they aren't about to get Berry back. Until he starts practicing AT ALL, he's not coming back.

Team's aren't built on HOPE.
There is certainly still a lot of that Chiefs loser mentality going on here...the HOPE of that 1st rounder is better than guaranteed goods on a team that has a shot.
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Way to much valuing of low 1st round picks here, you think Earl Thomas won't be as productive for the next 5 years as Dee Ford has been? And he's one of the Chiefs better defensive picks.
Absolutely.
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Well he plays the same game Ed Reed did, he was productive well into his 30's.
Ok
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Sound thinking.
50 years, no Super Bowls.

Absolutely sound thinking.
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Hey, let's just trade all our draft picks then. We already know they're all going to suck. Just trade for established veterans. Oh, and that thing called a salary cap? I'm sure we'll have no problem fitting even more bloated contracts.
How long is this window going to be open? If you don't strike when you can do something you will sit there with your dick in your hand.
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