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Old 03-22-2023, 12:30 PM  
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Old 03-22-2023, 02:59 PM   #121
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Unless the Chiefs maybe didn't even make an offer...
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Old 03-22-2023, 03:00 PM   #122
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It's entirely posssible that Hardman didn't want to come back.
Very true. I wonder why, though..
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Old 03-22-2023, 03:03 PM   #123
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Always loved his potential but it just didn’t translate into production and I don’t think it ever will , Wilson is going to be a target hog and Lazard will get his , he is going to be a really one player on a lesser team , his next contract will be for less.
It is an interesting team to sign a one year deal with. He is going to be a punt returner and open the year at the 4th wr
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Old 03-22-2023, 03:04 PM   #124
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Very true. I wonder why, though..
Maybe because he was only getting 3-4 touches a game. And running 4-5 jet-sweep motions/orbitals a game. So running 4-5 25-yard windsprints per game to only get 3-4 touches. And several times he got fewer than that, in spite of the fact that he was catching the ball at about a 75% rate, he wasn't getting an increase in targets. Never going to get a big contract only touching the ball 3-4 times a game.
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Old 03-22-2023, 03:08 PM   #125
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Old 03-22-2023, 03:22 PM   #126
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Old 03-22-2023, 03:28 PM   #127
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Remember when this guy was drafted to replace Tyreek Hill?
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Old 03-22-2023, 03:29 PM   #128
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Pretty good day for the Jets.

Got the equivalent of a high third for turning Moore into Hardman.
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Old 03-22-2023, 03:34 PM   #129
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Maybe because he was only getting 3-4 touches a game. And running 4-5 jet-sweep motions/orbitals a game. So running 4-5 25-yard windsprints per game to only get 3-4 touches. And several times he got fewer than that, in spite of the fact that he was catching the ball at about a 75% rate, he wasn't getting an increase in targets. Never going to get a big contract only touching the ball 3-4 times a game.
At some point that’s probably on him , 4 years in and I can’t really say he is that much better than he was as a rookie .
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Old 03-22-2023, 03:42 PM   #131
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Hardman had his moments, including the KO return when we were down 24-0 to the Texans, but overall he was a big letdown frm what was expected.

He does have super speed on those jet sweeps and incredible acceleration that I will miss.
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Old 03-22-2023, 03:42 PM   #132
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Looking more and more like the Jets are the team to challenge the Bengals for 2nd in the AFC.

If they get Rodgers and OBJ they’re winning that division IMO
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Old 03-22-2023, 03:42 PM   #133
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This has to mean the Jets are trading Elijah Moore. They already have Wilson and Lazard.

Interesting.
Yeah also Hardman's tweet say "way "MORE than that!"
Is that a play on words that indicates the Jets are trading Moore and Mecole is taking his role?
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Old 03-22-2023, 03:44 PM   #134
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At some point that’s probably on him , 4 years in and I can’t really say he is that much better than he was as a rookie .
I disagree. He did improve over his time in KC. His route tree expanded, he got better at his releases, he got better at improving when Pat scrambled, his catch rate improved by 10% from Year 1 to Year 4, and his scoring improved.

But his number of targets pretty much stayed the same.

Now, in 2022 it looked like he was going to be featured more, but injuries derailed that possibility. But in the 8 games he played, he showed that he could run more routes and that he could reliably find the soft spots in zone, and that he could make big catches in big moments, and that he could catch the ball under duress. Was he ever going to be the 2nd target behind Kelce? Probably not. But to say that he never got better as a WR just isn't the case.
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