Chiefs You know what? I like what Winston had to say. - Page 4

Chris Meck · 10-07-2012, 10:54 PM

Hold on now, hear me out.

The players don't choose who plays or not, the coaches do. In the Chiefs case, I think it seems clear that the GM is making that decision at least at QB. What the players DO choose to do is be a TEAM.

Winston is standing up for his teammate. He's circling the wagons. He's trying to inspire his teammates to be 'brawlers', to get physical and kick some ass. I like it.

I wish it were not necessary, and that we could actually have a balanced offense, but I appreciate the backbone the guy is showing. It says that they are playing for each other, which is what you want.

It just sucks that Cassel is so bad at his job. He's clearly a great guy, to inspire this sort of response even after being sooooo bad on the field. Maybe Quinn's lightbulb goes on and we start winning. It's a pretty talented team overall.

**jAZ** · 10-08-2012, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

It's truly unfortunate that the situation has come to this.

My dad was in the Chiefs band in the late 60's, played with them the year they won the Super Bowl. I've been a Chiefs fan my entire life. My 86 year old grandmother calls me to complain about the Chiefs to this day.

I don't recall ever wishing injury on a Chiefs player, ever. Not Fuller or Blackledge or Livingston or DeBerg or Krieg or Gannon or Grbac or Green or any number of defensive players, whom we've all loved over the years, from Bobby to Barbaro to Dino to Derrick to Neil to Derrick!

Yet, Pioli's reluctance - check that - arrogance to insult the fan base, a fan base that has endured 20 years without a playoff victory and no significant wins in more than 40 years, is not only intolerable and deplorable, it's incomprehensible, even to the fine people of the of the KC Metro area.

If Pioli tried to pull this shit in Philly or New York or Chicago, etc. and so, he'd be crucified every single day to the point where he'd either have a nervous breakdown or get on a plane, never to be seen or heard from again.

What he's done to Chiefs fans is nothing short of despicable.

Ah yes, what's even more inspiring than the "people weren't cheering the injury" exucse? The "Scott Pioli made us do it" excuse.

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-08-2012, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by jAZ

Ah yes, what's even more inspiring than the "people weren't cheering the injury" exucse? The "Scott Pioli made us do it" excuse.

Just shut the **** up, Dumbass.

**jAZ** · 10-08-2012, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants

Hey, jAZ! what did you think about that debate last Wednesday?!

I was at the gym and missed it, but I'm glad I did.

**jAZ** · 10-08-2012, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Just shut the **** up, Dumbass.

We all know that you are very important. So this post is very important to me. Consider me put in my place quite properly.

Holladay · 10-08-2012, 04:48 AM

Well Chris, nice to see you chime in. I always like your posts. Usually the voice of reason.

Keep posting.

jd1020 · 10-08-2012, 05:20 AM

I wonder how many of those people included in the "cheering" of Matt Cassels injury typed what they typed with a smile and were lighting sparklers, shooting confetti, and doing the happy dance while Cassel was down.

I know I wasn't. I didn't even twitch in my recliner besides to raise up and let one rip.

I wouldn't have been cheering if I was at the game but I would have been thinking the same thing.

It takes forces outside of this organizations control to make a change when the change would have likely already been made on the other 31 teams. It's a joke.

Coogs · 10-08-2012, 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan

I don't mean to be the anal n00b here but why the hell is this a new thread? This could very easily be in either of the Winston threads. Now we have 3 threads talking about the same subject.

Ummm! First two are different subjects.

**notorious** · 10-08-2012, 05:59 AM

I sure as hell didn't cheer. We need Cassel to stay in to (once again) show the rest of the NFL how horrific Pioli's decision has been.

Chris Meck · 10-08-2012, 06:13 AM

Yeah, if you believe as I do that Pioli is forcing Cassel on Crennel as he did on Haley then this is not really good news. After the bye week, we are likely looking at Cassel's return.

I have to snicker at the calls of 'coward' and 'noob' by anonymous internet posters.

WhiteWhale · 10-08-2012, 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by jAZ

It doesn't matter if the whole stadium was laughing and cheering all in a fit of black humor. It's a disgusting display and embarrassment to our city and Winston is completely justified for calling out everyone partaking in it.

Except fans were cheering a nice first down catch and run by Charles.

Then they applauded as Cassel walked off of the field (this is just a common courtesy of fans when a player is injured).

Then they cheered as Quinn came onto the field.

Winston is just projecting his anger at the fans rather than on his team-mates and himself for their terrible 1-4 start.

WhiteWhale · 10-08-2012, 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by jAZ

Here on CP, the ratio of cheering the play to cheering the injury was at best only 40-1. That's assuming that you count the one post saying "Charles dead." is somehow cheering for the play. Otherwise it was 40-0.

Damn. I thought Winston was talking about fans in the stadium but clearly he was reading Chiefsplanet.

**Easy 6** · 10-08-2012, 06:49 AM

Winston started this, he needs to be the one to stop it.

WhiteWhale · 10-08-2012, 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by scott free

Winston started this, he needs to be the one to stop it.

He's trying to deflect attention away from their shitty play on onto the fans by making some pretty egregious false statements.

It's disgusting and pathetic.

**MahiMike** · 10-08-2012, 06:56 AM

Chiefs fans went past the line and they should be ashamed. You already boo Cassel on every play. Least you could do is let it be when he gets hurt.

**Bwana** · 10-08-2012, 07:01 AM

10-07-2012, 10:54 PM
Chris Meck MVP Join Date: May 2001 Location: midtown KC Casino cash: $2024910	You know what? I like what Winston had to say. Hold on now, hear me out. The players don't choose who plays or not, the coaches do. In the Chiefs case, I think it seems clear that the GM is making that decision at least at QB. What the players DO choose to do is be a TEAM. Winston is standing up for his teammate. He's circling the wagons. He's trying to inspire his teammates to be 'brawlers', to get physical and kick some ass. I like it. I wish it were not necessary, and that we could actually have a balanced offense, but I appreciate the backbone the guy is showing. It says that they are playing for each other, which is what you want. It just sucks that Cassel is so bad at his job. He's clearly a great guy, to inspire this sort of response even after being sooooo bad on the field. Maybe Quinn's lightbulb goes on and we start winning. It's a pretty talented team overall.
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jd1020 In Search of a Life Join Date: Nov 2010 Casino cash: $7752645	I wonder how many of those people included in the "cheering" of Matt Cassels injury typed what they typed with a smile and were lighting sparklers, shooting confetti, and doing the happy dance while Cassel was down. I know I wasn't. I didn't even twitch in my recliner besides to raise up and let one rip. I wouldn't have been cheering if I was at the game but I would have been thinking the same thing. It takes forces outside of this organizations control to make a change when the change would have likely already been made on the other 31 teams. It's a joke. Last edited by jd1020; 10-08-2012 at 05:32 AM..
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Chris Meck MVP Join Date: May 2001 Location: midtown KC Casino cash: $2024910	Yeah, if you believe as I do that Pioli is forcing Cassel on Crennel as he did on Haley then this is not really good news. After the bye week, we are likely looking at Cassel's return. I have to snicker at the calls of 'coward' and 'noob' by anonymous internet posters.
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