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Old 01-09-2019, 03:10 PM  
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Berry missed today's practice, back to Day-To-Day. Also Dorian O'Daniel Note

Eric Berry misses Wednesday practice, in question for Saturday’s divisional

Guess who’s day to day again.

By Pete Sweeney Jan 9, 2019, 2:10pm CST
https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2019/...ivisional-game

Kansas City Chiefs safety Eric Berry is not practicing Wednesday, the second day of work as the team prepares to take on the Indianapolis Colts on Saturday afternoon in the AFC’s divisional round.

Berry missed practice on Friday, December 28, before he was eventually held out of the Chiefs’ final game of the season against the Oakland Raiders. Berry practiced limitedly to start this week on Tuesday, which many felt was a good sign, but he could not participate on Wednesday as he deals with his lingering heel injury.

“It’s difficult from the standpoint of he’s a real critical part of our team,” defensive coordinator Bob Sutton said when asked about the uncertainty surrounding the three-time All-Pro. “He’s an outstanding player. He’s one of our true leaders, the guys rally around him, so I think that part is always hard. You get caught up in different things in the season. But also, if you stick back for a second, you say, ‘Man, this is really hard on this guy, too, as a player. This is something he loves to do. He’s been really good at it, and as difficult as it is on us as a defensive unit or us as a team, I think for him, it’s really challenging.’

“So it’s just what it is. There’s not a lot you can do about it, and every week we’ve got our fingers crossed and hope that he can make it back and go. It’s truly—I know you guys get tired of hearing this—it really is a day to day to day thing here right now, the way it’s playing out. You just got to stay in there and go and figure out how to get other guys ready in case he can’t go.”

Berry was originally held out of the Chiefs’ first 13 games with what the team described as a sore heel, though reports, which have never been confirmed (nor denied) said Berry has what is called a “Haglund’s deformity.”

Berry eventually returned to the lineup to play 30 snaps Week 15 against the Los Angeles Chargers and played 69 snaps Week 16 against the Seattle Seahawks before what has appeared to be some sort of setback.

Sutton was asked Wednesday about who would replace Berry and linebacker Dorian O’Daniel, who hasn’t practiced at all this week, if they couldn’t play against the Colts.

Without Berry in a must-win game against the Raiders when it came to playoff home-field advantage, the safety snap count breakdown was as follows: Daniel Sorensen (63), Eric Murray (33), Jordan Lucas (32) and Ron Parker (6).

In the above breakdown, it is important to note that Sorensen and Lucas earned the start. Lucas suffered a stinger, and the Chiefs eventually removed starters in a 35-3 blowout.

It remains to be seen who the Chiefs start against the Colts if Berry cannot play once again.

A note on Dorian O’Daniel

#Chiefs special teams coordinator Dave Toub on LB Dorian O’Daniel, who has missed two practices this week: “He’s a four-phase starter for us. He’s an important guy, so we’re keeping an eye on that one, pretty close.”

“I wouldn’t tell you,” he initially said with a smile. “We have to work guys in, obviously, and just see where guys are. The one good thing is you’re at the point of the season where if you do have to miss some reps and you get better toward to the end of the week, this is probably the time to do it. We just have to kind of roll guys through, which we try to do, anyway, but when you have a guy in question, you have to say, ‘OK,’ because that usually affects somebody else.

“Sometimes that affects special teams ... It’s going to affect Dave (Toub) and what he’s putting together, so you got to kind of stay on top of that as a total staff, too. But we just got to slide and we’ve got some different options, but we kind of have to wait and see where it’s at.”
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Old 01-11-2019, 08:02 PM   #391
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In all seriousness Otter, there isn't a roster spot being "taken". 5 guys sit every game and cant play.

We have several young guys who have never suited up for a game. Are they taking up spots too?

Its a false narrative, there isn't someone out there that could help us right now that's not on the team because of Berry, there isn't.
If they weren’t committed to Haglunds we could find out though couldn’t we
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Old 01-11-2019, 08:14 PM   #393
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If they weren’t committed to Haglunds we could find out though couldn’t we
They brought in 3 safeties after training camp started, only Parker actually played significant minutes.
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Yeah. Earl Thomas would've been super cheap. We had absolutely no money to spend on the S position whatsoever.
We didn't sign Earl Thomas and his cap number for this year was nowhere close to Berry's because he's in the last year of his deal.
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We didn't sign Earl Thomas and his cap number for this year was nowhere close to Berry's because he's in the last year of his deal.
Yeah. When we tried to trade for Earl Thomas his 8.75 cap hit would've just evaporated. No money for the S position.
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Yeah. When we tried to trade for Earl Thomas his 8.75 cap hit would've just evaporated. No money for the S position.
8.75 < 13

And maybe you guys should make up your mind what your point is? Is it the cap hit? Or is it that he's taking up a roster spot?

Or maybe you should just admit that you don't know and you just like to bitch and complain.
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8.75 < 13

And maybe you guys should make up your mind what your point is? Is it the cap hit? Or is it that he's taking up a roster spot?

Or maybe you should just admit that you don't know and you just like to bitch and complain.
You made the asinine claim that we could only spend vet minimum or rookie money on the S position. Just pointing out that you're wrong. That's the only thing I addressed, so direct the rest of your little tirade at someone else.
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Old 01-11-2019, 08:26 PM   #398
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You made the asinine claim that we could only spend vet minimum or rookie money on the S position. Just pointing out that you're wrong. That's the only thing I addressed, so direct the rest of your little tirade at someone else.
I actually NEVER said either of those things. Try again.
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I actually NEVER said either of those things. Try again.
So what did this mean?

The type of money they can afford to spend on safeties, they actually already HAVE - on guys like Lucas, Shaw (now gone), and others.
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So what did this mean?

The type of money they can afford to spend on safeties, they actually already HAVE - on guys like Lucas, Shaw (now gone), and others.
Lucas isn't making vet min, they actually traded a pick for him too.

And "others" includes Ron Parker, who is a vested veteran.

It means exactly what I said in the last sentence:

They can't afford to replace Eric Berry with another Eric Berry. It's too expensive.
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Lucas isn't making vet min, they actually traded a pick for him too.

And "others" includes Ron Parker, who is a vested veteran.

It means exactly what I said in the last sentence:

They can't afford to replace Eric Berry with another Eric Berry. It's too expensive.
Don’t need another Berry. Need a safety who plays
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Lucas isn't making vet min, they actually traded a pick for him too.

And "others" includes Ron Parker, who is a vested veteran.

It means exactly what I said in the last sentence:

They can't afford to replace Eric Berry with another Eric Berry. It's too expensive.
Jordan Lucas is making 630k. We traded a 7th rounder in 2020 for him. Such investment. Much wow. Ron Parker is making 915k.

Replacing Eric Berry with another Eric Berry? What kind of stupid point is that? Of course you can't, because no S in the league makes that much. What you COULD'VE done is investted in a mid tier FA, like Vaccaro, Boston, Reid, Burnett, or Gilchrist. They were prepared to give 8.75 of their cap to Thomas, so they had the money. Any one of them would certainly be a damn sight better than this dumpster fire S core of Sorenson, Parker, Murray, and Lucas.
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Don’t need another Berry. Need a safety who plays
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Jordan Lucas is making 630k. We traded a 7th rounder in 2020 for him. Such investment. Much wow. Ron Parker is making 915k.

Replacing Eric Berry with another Eric Berry? What kind of stupid point is that? Of course you can't, because no S in the league makes that much. What you COULD'VE done is invest in a mid tier FA, like Vaccaro, Boston, Reid, Burnett, or Gilchrist. They were prepared to give 8.75 of their cap to Thomas, so they had the money. Any one of them would certainly be a damn sight better than this dumpster fire S core of Sorenson, Parker, Murray, and Lucas.
For any of those guys to have an impact, Sutton would have to go. None of them can do what is required out of the position. Certainly not Tre Boston. Vaccaro might have been decent, I don't know.

And Reid was never an option regardless of Berry's situation.
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