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Old 01-05-2021, 02:20 PM  
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Dolphins GM says Tua is QB for 2021
https://twitter.com/armandosalguero/...768075779?s=21

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Chris Grier says Tua Tagovailoa is the Dolphins 2021 QB.
Despite having the #3 pick... the plan appears to be trying to help Tua out.

Love this because this team could be really good if they get the QB right, and I don’t think Tua is it.
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Old 01-05-2021, 02:21 PM   #2
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They’ll draft Sewell, Chase, or Smith unless they trade down.

I still think Tua can be a great game manager, so if they continue to build around him and get that defense playing at an elite level, they could still be a damn good team.

Imagine them getting one of those 3 and Najee Harris...
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Old 01-05-2021, 02:27 PM   #3
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If they drafted Herbert instead of Tua, they would be looking great. I haven't been impressed with Tua, I don't think he'll amount to much. I also thought the same of Josh Allen, though.
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Old 01-05-2021, 02:28 PM   #4
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Of course he is. The question is if they go the Blake bortles and Trubisky route and do zero to bring qb competition. They should have enough reason for concern that they consider aggressively drafting for a qb in 2021. Fitzmagic doesn't do that. He is a bandaid if Tua doesn't work out, as we quickly learned with nick foles.
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Old 01-05-2021, 02:30 PM   #5
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Louis Riddick was on ESPN today basically ripping the shit out of people for saying the Dolphins should draft a QB and "The expectations people have for young QBs is ridiculous"
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Old 01-05-2021, 02:30 PM   #6
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They’ll draft Sewell, Chase, or Smith unless they trade down.

I still think Tua can be a great game manager, so if they continue to build around him and get that defense playing at an elite level, they could still be a damn good team.

Imagine them getting one of those 3 and Najee Harris...
Would you go with Smith over Chase for the familiarity Smith already has with Tua even if you viewed Chase as a slightly better prospect?

Think Sewell is their best bet if he's available, FTR
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Old 01-05-2021, 02:30 PM   #7
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Probably it's the right move. At least it's a high-percentage move. Can't chase QBs in every draft. At some point you have to play the cards you're dealt.

And Tua could become a good QB. He might just need to adjust to the speed of the NFL, kind of like how Andrew Luck did. No, I'm not saying the kid will be the next Andrew Luck. But he could see a similar trajectory in his development. It took about three seasons, iirc, for Luck to really be comfortable with the speed of NFL defenses, and begin to become the QB that everyone thought he could be. Even then Luck never was the Manning 2.0 a lot of people assumed he would be. But he did become a very good QB.

Tua could still become a solid QB. They kind of have to give him an entire season at least to prove himself.
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If they drafted Herbert instead of Tua, they would be looking great. I haven't been impressed with Tua, I don't think he'll amount to much. I also thought the same of Josh Allen, though.
Most of the NFL world thought Tua was better than Herbert. I bet Dolphins fans certainly did.

Fug 'em. I never felt bad for the Bears for drafting Trubisky either.
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Old 01-05-2021, 02:31 PM   #9
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The excuse that Tua doesn't have enough talent around him on offense to look better than a mediocre game manager is interesting when Ryan Fitzpatrick was able to generate a more explosive downfield passing game with the same personnel.
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Old 01-05-2021, 02:31 PM   #10
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Yeah I have a feeling the Dolphins will regret draft Tua over Herbert. They would have been scary with Herbert and their core players right now.
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Old 01-05-2021, 02:32 PM   #11
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Probably it's the right move. At least it's a high-percentage move. Can't chase QBs in every draft. At some point you have to play the cards you're dealt.

And Tua could become a good QB. He might just need to adjust to the speed of the NFL, kind of like how Andrew Luck did. No, I'm not saying the kid will be the next Andrew Luck. But he could see a similar trajectory in his development. It took about three seasons, iirc, for Luck to really be comfortable with the speed of NFL defenses, and begin to become the QB that everyone thought he could be. Even then Luck never was the Manning 2.0 a lot of people assumed he would be. But he did become a very good QB.

Tua could still become a solid QB. They kind of have to give him an entire season at least to prove himself.
Tua's ceiling is Alex Smith imo. Assuming he stays healthy enough to be a check-down game manager.
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If they drafted Herbert instead of Tua, they would be looking great. I haven't been impressed with Tua, I don't think he'll amount to much. I also thought the same of Josh Allen, though.
Herbert was a physical tools QB, Tua was a more cerebral college QB.

The physical tools show up first in the NFL.

Tua should not have even been playing this year. He will be fine.

And Fields is not the answer.
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Would you go with Smith over Chase for the familiarity Smith already has with Tua even if you viewed Chase as a slightly better prospect?

Think Sewell is their best bet if he's available, FTR
I could see it, but I think I’d personally go Chase.

Seeing how good Jefferson is, and thinking how much better Chase was than him in 2019, it’s easy not to forget just how good of a prospect Chase is/was for me.

I don’t think you can go wrong with either guy though.

But Sewell would still be #1 on my board either way. They could move Jackson over to RT and slide Hunt inside. You probably get better at 3 positions with that pick while having up to 4 starters on the OL within the first 2 years of their rookie deals.

Then add Harris or Etienne and you’ve really got something.
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Old 01-05-2021, 02:35 PM   #14
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Of course he is. The question is if they go the Blake bortles and Trubisky route and do zero to bring qb competition. They should have enough reason for concern that they consider aggressively drafting for a qb in 2021. Fitzmagic doesn't do that. He is a bandaid if Tua doesn't work out, as we quickly learned with nick foles.
They should bring in that dude from Philly that started the 4th quarter against the WFT...that would boost Tua's confidence!
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Herbert was a physical tools QB, Tua was a more cerebral college QB.

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Lol, horse shit. There was nothing cerebral about Tua.

And people proclaimed that Herbert was a noodle arm, inaccurate QB with no leadership qualities.
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