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Old 01-05-2021, 02:20 PM  
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Dolphins GM says Tua is QB for 2021
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Chris Grier says Tua Tagovailoa is the Dolphins 2021 QB.
Despite having the #3 pick... the plan appears to be trying to help Tua out.

Love this because this team could be really good if they get the QB right, and I don’t think Tua is it.
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Old 11-14-2022, 11:53 PM   #76
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Tua has been looking pretty good. Perhaps patience was the proper choice.
He has but I’m still super curious to see how he looks in windy sf and cold buffalo. Those “accurate” balls which for him are often moonballs will float very differently in the weather. And those passes barely reaching the outside will need more mustard to hit the receiver.

But who knows… he’s proven me wrong so far.
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Old 11-15-2022, 03:43 AM   #77
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He has but I’m still super curious to see how he looks in windy sf and cold buffalo. Those “accurate” balls which for him are often moonballs will float very differently in the weather. And those passes barely reaching the outside will need more mustard to hit the receiver.

But who knows… he’s proven me wrong so far.
He has looked very good, but man he's got a team around him. If he's throwing to MVS, JJSS, Hardman and Watson, I don't think he's getting these numbers!
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Old 11-15-2022, 04:15 AM   #78
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He has looked very good, but man he's got a team around him. If he's throwing to MVS, JJSS, Hardman and Watson, I don't think he's getting these numbers!
People always said (non Chiefs fans) during Mahomes first couple of seasons "Mahomes isn't very good, he's got Kelce and Hill to throw to"
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Old 11-15-2022, 04:34 AM   #79
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mahomes is his own thing. let’s see how tua does when the pressure dials up. he has been great. which qbs are mahome’s calibur? we’ll see in a couple months
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Old 11-15-2022, 04:52 AM   #80
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mahomes is his own thing. let’s see how tua does when the pressure dials up. he has been great. which qbs are mahome’s calibur? we’ll see in a couple months
please don't mistake that for thinking Tua is really good or anything, haven't ever watched him play honestly. But I do remember people saying that shit about Mahomes. I'm just saying Tua must be somewhat decent. I'm a believer that putting a dogshit QB on a team with good receivers isn't going to make the QB not dogshit.
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Old 11-15-2022, 05:11 AM   #81
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please don't mistake that for thinking Tua is really good or anything, haven't ever watched him play honestly. But I do remember people saying that shit about Mahomes. I'm just saying Tua must be somewhat decent. I'm a believer that putting a dogshit QB on a team with good receivers isn't going to make the QB not dogshit.
Yeah it's a fair point. Only thing I'd say is he didn't have Tyreek the last 2 years and looked bang average.
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Old 11-15-2022, 06:15 AM   #82
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I get it that the NFL is all about instant gratification. You shouldn't write a QB off in their rookie year. BTW, I never thought Miami should have handed Tua the starting job. He is not as ready as Fitz.

Lots of rookies would look bad compared to Fitz because Fitz is a good, seasoned NFL QB.

What I see with Tua is a guy who is just a touch behind and the NFL is a little bit fast for him. When it slows down, which it will, I think people who said he's a bust will look silly.

Speaking of the AFC East, Tua is WAY ahead of where Allen was Year 1 in the NFL.
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Old 11-15-2022, 07:09 AM   #83
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Old 11-15-2022, 07:28 AM   #84
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Old 11-15-2022, 08:46 AM   #85
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His efficiency numbers have been absurd
My comp for him coming out was Matt Ryan.

Very good player that will look bad when things are off but can elevate with a good cast and scheme.
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Old 11-15-2022, 11:07 AM   #86
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Is Tua better than Suckbert now?

All of the talk about Miami blowing it by picking Tua over Suckbert... Tua has a far better wins/losses record as a starting QB than Suckbert and now that he has weapons around him, he's putting up the similar stats that Suckbet has been putting up.
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Is Tua better than Suckbert now?

All of the talk about Miami blowing it by picking Tua over Suckbert... Tua has a far better wins/losses record as a starting QB than Suckbert and now that he has weapons around him, he's putting up the similar stats that Suckbet has been putting up.
Jesus Christ.

Name the guys Herbert is throwing at right now. Then name Tua's.

Screw the stats, look at the players play and look at the context of the situations.
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Jesus Christ.

Name the guys Herbert is throwing at right now. Then name Tua's.

Screw the stats, look at the players play and look at the context of the situations.
First two years of Suckbert's career he had far better talent around him than Tua and he still had a WORSE win/loss record as a starting QB.
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Old 11-15-2022, 11:39 AM   #89
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First two years of Suckbert's career he had far better talent around him than Tua and he still had a WORSE win/loss record as a starting QB.
That's wrong too.

Tua was getting benched mid game last season for Fitzmagic on a stacked roster. That was a damn good roster last year too.

Meanwhile, that Chargers roster gets over hyped every season and every season half of them are dead by mid year.
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Tua is playing in a fresh new, innovative offense that the league hasn't figured out yet, a HC who's caught the league by storm, with 4.3 speed at damn near every offensive skill position.

Herbert is playing for an uncreative, dink and dunk offense right now and his receivers would likely be practice squad guys for the Chiefs. His HC will be fired at the end of the season.

The Chargers look like the train wreck they are every year and the Dolphins look like they've really built something.

If the Chargers still had their starting tackles, Allen, Williams, Bosa, Jackson (and the list goes on and on) you might not be asking these questions.
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