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Old 12-22-2021, 09:25 PM  
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I somehow got banned from the gripe about mods discussion? I don't think I was rude or disrespectful. Please let me know what I did wrong. Happy to correct my action.
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Old 12-23-2021, 12:28 PM   #61
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This thread is like a who's who of immature little douchbags.
...and you're in it, making you one too.
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Old 12-23-2021, 12:31 PM   #62
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Let's make it clear. You hunt me down in my threads. You follow me around. I'm in YOUR head. It's not the other way around.
Sure looks like the truth to me. Even Bearcat said he was the aggressor. He stalks you from thread to thread whenever you show up. When you're not hear he does it to me. Sure looks like he's on a mission to me.
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Old 12-23-2021, 12:42 PM   #63
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Welcome aboard? Lol.
He can't even spell douche right. lol
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Old 12-23-2021, 12:44 PM   #64
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These things are what get determined by debating if such and such pov meets those criteria, which of course will always be in the eye of the beholder. In your case those words reflect your opinion of another's views. They are not objective claims.
Rationality is subjective, or at least mostly for the sake of not diving into a philosophical debate. The truth and logic, however, are completely objective.

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For someone who claims to not be political you sure seem to have political opinions like the rest of us but just choose to not participate in debate or reveal them. That's your choice and right.

BTW, I wasn't thinking of you when I wrote the post you are responding to, or any mod for that matter. ( I understand it's the tone of the DC forum some don't like and I know you have posted about that not being liked by you.) It's posters like Superturtle and a few others. But it's good to know that underneath it all you can be political. NTTWWT.
Of course. We all have political ideologies and I've never intended to say I'm void of them. I've even mentioned to Baby Lee and others in threads that I wouldn't even care if there was political debate in the Lounge or to be part of it here, if it wasn't for the completely unhinged personal attacks and constant one-upping and so forth.

Your response is far closer to a level of constructive discourse, which was quickly taken over by more TJ/Detoxing bullshit.

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Could you provide specific examples, so I can tell if it's denying political speech you don't like, agree with or otherwise?


By far the most common around here right now is of course Covid talk. I guess you can read my responses to Direckshun in the Gripe thread that include his own quotes to get an idea that I don't always bad people for their Covid beliefs, but that we do also have specific rules that make it easier to pull the trigger no matter what the person is actually saying (such as soapboxing Covid beliefs 50 times in 2 hours).

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No one is asking anyone to listen. You can choose to ignore, like I do certain posters or even use the ignore feature for posts or threads.

"Tolerate your bullshit" sounds like the very thing I am referring to. It is still saying some political views are bullshit; that you hate them; that they are irrational, non-constructive etc.. Because you opine they have these qualities, you come across as you don't want to see them but listen to them anyway as you seem to be showing here.

In your opinion—only. Cancel culture is spreading through our society as the politics get more heated. It's certain people that want a safe space from ideas they don't deem, rational, worthy or feel are not constructive—all of which is opinion-based. Such a position is more prevalent on the left.
Well, some political views are bullshit. At a certain point it's no different than saying "well, I think the earth is flat and you have to respect my opinion!" and then going thread to thread trying to convince people the earth is flat..... and then when you get booted for it, going to the Gripe thread and complaining that the mods simply don't like opinions they don't agree with, and cancel culture is out to get them.

And that last point of course diverts quite a ways from the original point of locking threads and so forth, but just to say that's kind of how I feel about the whole censorship and 'cancel culture' thing. I totally get there are legitimate concerns with it, especially when people who have power can suppress the real truth for their own.... but, around here it seems much more like an easy go-to whenever two people disagree on something.... and it's aggravating.

And being a mod a here, it's not so much "don't want to see them but listen to them anyway".... take the Covid crap and our general rule of not derailing every Covid-related thread with pages of Covid bullshit. It has nothing to do with not wanting to see a certain opinion or any opinion, it has to do with what's better for the community as a whole, which is being able to easily access football news while not sifting through the same freakin' stuff through several threads to find out if someone is playing or not. And it's not me looking at a train wreck (I mean, not all the time), it's simply doing my mod job.
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Old 12-23-2021, 12:48 PM   #65
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Looks like certain Lounge posters, mostly lefty snowflakes but not all, are pushing Cancel Culture for ChiefsPlanet.
That is in general, not referring to the recent locked threads.

Having an opinion that certain political players have an agenda or a hidden agenda, which they label as "conspiracy theory", or what they consider "misinformation" is their justification for them canceling people or canceling the entire DC forum. Calling for banning posters who hold such opinion is canceling them for an opinion they don't agree with.

How do they know what anyone's world view is politically if they never post in DC, never engage but they're all willing to talk about canceling opinions by getting rid of such posters? This means they lurk in DC because they are too afraid, or just can't articulate a counter-opinion or can't take the heat of a debate, when politics through history is about heated debates. Instead they engage in passive aggression in the Lounge where they whine to the mods about opinions they cannot tolerated and ask for banning posters based on a different world view they don't like. Or like Dipshit, they merely enter the DC forum to swipe at at DC poster and then leave and also whine to the mods. That's all they contribute.

Yet, we hear it's childish to point out who started the aggression, should one respond to defend themselves, even if more civil than the aggressor. Well, this is the exact thing that grown men that are elected to office do, when they justify entering a war to fight back. It's because they say, using various other words, that the other side started it.
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Old 12-23-2021, 12:49 PM   #66
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Old 12-23-2021, 12:52 PM   #67
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Rationality is subjective, or at least mostly for the sake of not diving into a philosophical debate. The truth and logic, however, are completely objective.



Of course. We all have political ideologies and I've never intended to say I'm void of them. I've even mentioned to Baby Lee and others in threads that I wouldn't even care if there was political debate in the Lounge or to be part of it here, if it wasn't for the completely unhinged personal attacks and constant one-upping and so forth.

Your response is far closer to a level of constructive discourse, which was quickly taken over by more TJ/Detoxing bullshit.

That said....





By far the most common around here right now is of course Covid talk. I guess you can read my responses to Direckshun in the Gripe thread that include his own quotes to get an idea that I don't always bad people for their Covid beliefs, but that we do also have specific rules that make it easier to pull the trigger no matter what the person is actually saying (such as soapboxing Covid beliefs 50 times in 2 hours).



Well, some political views are bullshit. At a certain point it's no different than saying "well, I think the earth is flat and you have to respect my opinion!" and then going thread to thread trying to convince people the earth is flat..... and then when you get booted for it, going to the Gripe thread and complaining that the mods simply don't like opinions they don't agree with, and cancel culture is out to get them.

And that last point of course diverts quite a ways from the original point of locking threads and so forth, but just to say that's kind of how I feel about the whole censorship and 'cancel culture' thing. I totally get there are legitimate concerns with it, especially when people who have power can suppress the real truth for their own.... but, around here it seems much more like an easy go-to whenever two people disagree on something.... and it's aggravating.

And being a mod a here, it's not so much "don't want to see them but listen to them anyway".... take the Covid crap and our general rule of not derailing every Covid-related thread with pages of Covid bullshit. It has nothing to do with not wanting to see a certain opinion or any opinion, it has to do with what's better for the community as a whole, which is being able to easily access football news while not sifting through the same freakin' stuff through several threads to find out if someone is playing or not. And it's not me looking at a train wreck (I mean, not all the time), it's simply doing my mod job.
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Old 12-23-2021, 12:59 PM   #68
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He can't even spell douche right. lol
I'd say welcome to the club, but he's not cool enough to be on a "who's who" list. Ha.
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Old 12-23-2021, 01:15 PM   #69
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I somehow got banned from the gripe about mods discussion? I don't think I was rude or disrespectful. Please let me know what I did wrong. Happy to correct my action.
Maybe try a different pass time. Internet Sleuth doesn't seem to being working out all that well.
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Old 12-23-2021, 01:27 PM   #70
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I'd say welcome to the club, but he's not cool enough to be on a "who's who" list. Ha.
Man, I don't even know who that noob is. Where are all these pups coming from?
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Old 12-23-2021, 01:28 PM   #71
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My only exposure to the background of this bullshit is...
1) the rampant audio bullshit in DC, which we're pretty cranky about... I think that's one reason the thread was locked, but don't really care to dive into that.
2) the whole Detoxing doxing thing with your picture and the thing you two have for each other, which I believe also played a part in the thread being locked.

As far as the thing you two have for each other, the mods don't generally dive into "who started it" or other childish bullshit.... we took care of the pics and I think we locked a thread that Detoxing bumped.

After that, we simply tell both sides to put each other on ignore or whatever you have to do or else we'll ban whoever keeps it up. We very rarely have to tell two people that, but have done it twice this week now.

As someone who only saw the pics posted and Detoxing going on and on about it, my first guess would be that he's the aggressor in this situation.

Except, then I see you post this...


...followed by 3 more posts in that thread, so there's obviously no question why you got booted from it.

And then an hour later in DC...


...so, there's little doubt you aren't part of the problem here, too.

It's pretty simple.
- This is the deepest dive into the past or into mod theory you'll get, so just leave it alone.
- Continue with Detoxing, you'll be banned. Detoxing continues with you, he'll be banned.

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Old 12-23-2021, 01:31 PM   #72
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Me watching BEP and TaQo lose their shit over it:

If I ran a forum..anyone that attempted to dox someone would be banned for life. Period...that is a fundamental "No Go". That's some petty ****ing shit...and potentially dangerous.

I agree with Taco...you have a strange obsession with that particular topic and tried to turn it into a personal vendetta.

Banning you from that thread is how I would have handled it..instead of ending all discussion on the subject..

Doxing people is ****ed up...

I dont have a dog in this fight other than an irrational muting of an import topic...and losing what little respect I had for you as a poster.

As we've seen in the public Covid thread...Mods are prone to irrational, emotion-impulse based editing. That's not a good look...even if a topic rubs them the wrong way, it shouldn't be their court to decide....if forum rules are breached, then yes...and only those who committed it.

Mods need to protect freedom of expression at all cost...irregardless if they agree with it.

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If I ran a forum..anyone that attempted to dox someone would be banned for life. Period...that is a fundamental "No Go". That's some petty ****ing shit...

I agree with Taco...you have a strange obsession with that particular topic and tried to turn it into a personal vendetta.

Banning you from that thread is how I would have handled it..instead of ending all discussion on the subject..

Doxing people is ****ed up...

I dont have a dog in this fight other than an irrational muting of an import topic...and losing what little respect I had for you as a poster.

As we've seen in the public Covid thread...Mods are prone to irrational, emotion-impulse based editing. That's not a good look...even if a topic rubs you the wrong way, it should'nt be your court to decide....only if forum rules are breached.
I have heard that calling another poster a audio is a bannable offense around here. Taco doesn't do that, but he accuses posters of "normalizing" it, i.e., supporting those who do it. Close enough.

And even with that shit, I don't know this, but it feels that way to me, that Taco would not catch anywhere near the amount of shit that he catches if he wasn't so ****ing arrogant about his superior position of knowledge.

Could be wrong, but stupid people who think they're smart can be a source of irritation.
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