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Old 02-27-2013, 12:45 PM  
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Old 11-20-2013, 08:38 AM   #9136
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So what is the current excuse we are debating for Alex?

Is it the OLine excuse? WR?
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Old 11-20-2013, 08:41 AM   #9137
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So what is the current excuse we are debating for Alex?

Is it the OLine excuse? WR?


It has been the OL in the weeks before we played Denver. The vibe I have been getting from the Denver game is it was the WR. So count on this week against SD either the playcalling or the OL. Our offensive struggles can't be due to Alex Smith, it never is.
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Old 11-20-2013, 08:51 AM   #9138
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So what is the current excuse we are debating for Alex?

Is it the OLine excuse? WR?
The number of dropped passes has grown everyday since Sunday night. Listening to Petro and Teicher yesterday, you'd think balls were careening off receivers shoulder pads and clanking off facemasks the whole game.
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Old 11-20-2013, 09:05 AM   #9139
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Yup. Exactly. What you see without blind anti-homerism.

If it weren't for all the critical drops I think we win that game, or are right in it at the end.
There was some encouraging play by Alex Smith in the 1st half, definitely. He made some throws early that he had not been making for most of this season, and it seemed to open up the field in the second quarter. Funny how when teams respect you throwing the ball down the field a bit, the short passing game and running game open up.

Second half - really the third quarter - it seemed like the offense regressed. And it didn't get going again until the Broncos had a 17-point lead with 7 1/2 minutes left (garbage time).

The drops hurt, obviously, but I think it's a stretch to say the Chiefs win without the drops.

Alex Smith played better, but he still needs to improve a lot. And the biggest issue remains the throws he chooses NOT to make because of his extreme risk aversion (even when they are throws he CAN safely make/has the arm strength and accuracy to make).
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Old 11-20-2013, 09:17 AM   #9140
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There was some encouraging play by Alex Smith in the 1st half, definitely. He made some throws early that he had not been making for most of this season, and it seemed to open up the field in the second quarter. Funny how when teams respect you throwing the ball down the field a bit, the short passing game and running game open up.

Second half - really the third quarter - it seemed like the offense regressed. And it didn't get going again until the Broncos had a 17-point lead with 7 1/2 minutes left (garbage time).

The drops hurt, obviously, but I think it's a stretch to say the Chiefs win without the drops.

Alex Smith played better, but he still needs to improve a lot. And the biggest issue remains the throws he chooses NOT to make because of his extreme risk aversion (even when they are throws he CAN safely make/has the arm strength and accuracy to make).
I can completely respect criticism when done with some fairness.

He played far from a perfect game, that said the loss can't be put solely on AS.

The dropped pass by Avery was big, I think that one play changes the game.

That one play let a little doubt creep in and they can't let that happen.
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Old 11-20-2013, 09:19 AM   #9141
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It has been the OL in the weeks before we played Denver. The vibe I have been getting from the Denver game is it was the WR. So count on this week against SD either the playcalling or the OL. Our offensive struggles can't be due to Alex Smith, it never is.
And on the flip side of that when WRS are dropping balls or the Line is allowing guys to come unblocked those things never hurt the offense it's always Alex.
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Old 11-20-2013, 09:36 AM   #9142
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B/c Manning did what he had to do to win. He didn't care about his stat line. He knew he had to get rid of the back early, before routes had developed at all, so he did. It wasn't going to be pretty, but it basically had to be done.

Unlike Alex, who couldn't bare the thought of a hailmary tainting his stat line, so he took what was statistically the worst choice for the team instead, and ran. Add in that he is currently a white man, and you can see why it's so bothersome.
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Old 11-20-2013, 10:14 AM   #9143
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The number of dropped passes has grown everyday since Sunday night. Listening to Petro and Teicher yesterday, you'd think balls were careening off receivers shoulder pads and clanking off facemasks the whole game.

"Bowe dropped that one pass 7 times. What an idiot!!"
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Old 11-20-2013, 10:52 AM   #9144
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Old 11-20-2013, 11:10 AM   #9145
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The Chiefs are #6 in the NFL in dropped passes. Guess who is #5.
http://stats.washingtonpost.com/fb/t...iving&rank=232

What player leads the Chiefs in drop passes? Jamaal Charles with 7. A 1/3 of the drops are coming from the running back position.

Denver's amazing WR core - Decker has 7, Welker has 6.

McCluster, Avery, Fasano have 3 drops.
Bowe has 2 drops.

Bowe's drop percentage is tied with Jason Whitten and Pierrce Garcon.
http://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/stats/drops/2013/
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Old 11-20-2013, 11:14 AM   #9146
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Didn't you just get finish saying that Alex is average? Isn't that a bit different than "did, does and will always suck"?
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The Chiefs are #6 in the NFL in dropped passes. Guess who is #5.
http://stats.washingtonpost.com/fb/t...iving&rank=232

What player leads the Chiefs in drop passes? Jamaal Charles with 7. A 1/3 of the drops are coming from the running back position.

Denver's amazing WR core - Decker has 7, Welker has 6.

McCluster, Avery, Fasano have 3 drops.
Bowe has 2 drops.

Bowe's drop percentage is tied with Jason Whitten and Pierrce Garcon.
http://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/stats/drops/2013/
Peyton Manning would be a good QB if only those Denver receivers could hold on to the ball. I guess Denver needs all new WRs as well, since they have more drops than the Chiefs.
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The Chiefs are #6 in the NFL in dropped passes. Guess who is #5.
http://stats.washingtonpost.com/fb/t...iving&rank=232

What player leads the Chiefs in drop passes? Jamaal Charles with 7. A 1/3 of the drops are coming from the running back position.

Denver's amazing WR core - Decker has 7, Welker has 6.

McCluster, Avery, Fasano have 3 drops.
Bowe has 2 drops.

Bowe's drop percentage is tied with Jason Whitten and Pierrce Garcon.
http://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/stats/drops/2013/
# of passes dropped is a useless stat unless you include the number of passes thrown.
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KC is #4 in terms of team drops % Denver i
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This is why the Alex Smith career is so fascinating.
To you, maybe. To those of us who don't have a mancrush on Captain Checkdown, he's about as boring and vanilla as it gets.
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