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Old 10-08-2018, 03:10 PM  
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Why Kansas City should trade for Deone Bucannon & Haason Reddick

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While the NFL trade deadline is still a few weeks away, that didn’t keep us from musing about some trades that we would like to see for each team last week. Feasibility is always an issue when discussing swapping resources this time of year, but with news from Arizona that former first-round picks Deone Bucannon and Haason Reddick are available, there is a first-place team that might have the requisite motivation to allow the Cardinals to move on from these players.

The Kansas City Chiefs’ defense has been maligned for the better part of the last two years, and for good reason. Even after a solid performance against Blake Bortles and the Jacksonville Jaguars this past Sunday, Chiefs are allowing success in the passing game on 53.70% of early downs, which has been the third-worst mark in the AFC. This is despite the fact that outside linebacker Dee Ford is playing the best football of his career (30 total pressures so far), and the trio of Kendall Fuller, Steven Nelson and Orlando Scandrick has A) been healthy all five games and B) played better than expected.

Their run defense, allowing the 54.55% early-down success rate (worst in the NFL), hasn’t fared much better, however.

This gets to where Bucannon and/or Reddick fit in. The Chiefs signed Anthony Hitchens to a five-year, $45-million deal this offseason to replace Derrick Johnson as their every-down inside linebacker. Hitchens has struggled in that role, allowing 33-of-35 targets into his coverage to be completed, for 1.72 yards per coverage snap (fifth-worst among inside linebackers through Sunday). He’s always been a better run defender than a coverage player throughout his career, but he’s just 47th there this season, with 11 total stops and four missed tackles.

Reggie Ragland, acquired in a trade from Buffalo last preseason, has been very productive in run defense (14th in run-stop percentage) but has (predictably) struggled in pass coverage himself, allowing 1.66 yards per coverage snap and a touchdown this week against T.J. Yeldon in coverage.



While Bucannon has failed to adapt to Steve Wilks’ new scheme this season, Bucannon graded well as a coverage linebacker in 2015 and 2016 and would represent the dime linebacker/safety hybrid the Chiefs have been missing since Tyvon Branch and Hussain Abdullah left after the 2015 season. Whether it has been injuries to safeties Eric Berry and Daniel Sorensen, or feeling the need to play Hitchens and Ragland due to their investment in them, the Chiefs have played six or more defensive backs on fewer than 15% of their defensive snaps this season, down from over 40% the last two years under Bob Sutton. Playing fewer defensive backs has not helped their run defense no matter how you look at it statistically, and while in general more defensive backs does allow more efficiency in the running game, opposing offense’s expected points added against six defensive backs or more when passing the ball is still higher (-0.05 per early-down play since 2013) than when running the ball (-0.07).

When it comes to Reddick, it’s important to point out that, in our preparation for the draft, we found that players that play the same position in the NFL than they did in college were easier to predict than those (like Reddick) that changed positions. The Chiefs are currently working with two players in Breeland Speaks and Tanoh Kpassagnon that were interior players at the college level, but are playing outside linebacker in Sutton’s 3-4 defense. The results have been predictable, with the two combining for just 22 pressures and eight stops in 350 career snaps to this point. Even before Justin Houston left Sunday’s game with an injury, the Chiefs have been in search of a healthy and solid third edge player for as long as Sutton has run the defense. Having Reddick (who had 44 pressures and 46 stops as an edge his final season at Temple) in that role could help revive his career and give the Chiefs options in the future – with Ford facing a contract year and Houston carrying roughly $31 million in potential salary savings the next two years.

With the highest projected win total in the NFL after five weeks, a bright young quarterback on a rookie deal and a head coaching spinning plates with the best of the NFL’s offensive minds, it will be interesting to see the Chiefs’ appetite for improving the personnel of their defense moving forward. While Bucannon or Reddick will likely not be stars, they could contribute in small ways towards making the Chiefs a top-20 defense, which would likely be enough in an offensive-heavy season like this.

In trading for Ragland (a former second-round pick) and starting guard Cameron Erving (a former first-round pick) in his tenure, GM Brett Veach has shown that he’s willing to take a chance on another team’s failed investments. In jettisoning Johnson, star cornerback Marcus Peters and the final three picks of the John Dorsey era after just one year, he’s also shown the ability to cut bait on projects that have produced little fruit.

This appears to be an opportunity to do both.
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Old 10-09-2018, 10:48 PM   #166
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Old 10-09-2018, 11:02 PM   #167
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Twitter guy who said we were trying to get Earl says we are now going after Reddick.

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This is a bad narrative. Hitchens has played well.

Ragland has been the one who has been horrible.
Lol Hitchens has been flat out brutal at times. Just go read the PFF article by Eric Eager saying KC should trade for Reddick and Bucannon. Talks about how bad he is. I still have high hopes for Hitchens. Ragland sucks and I’m hoping Niemann takes over in coverage duties soon along with DOD


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Old 10-10-2018, 05:07 AM   #168
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Couldn’t sleep so I started watching Hassan Reddick highlights and draft profile. If the only reason cardinals are giving up on the kid is scheme fit Veach needs to get him ASAP. This is a total Veach move former high draft pick with tremendous talent who isn’t working out with current team. This kid is great his closing speed and diagnosis of plays is uncanny. We could trade for him and play him Sunday as a speed rusher on third downs till he gets better accustomed to the D. I’m all aboard acquiring him. Buchanan I like also but seems too expensive but if you could figure out a way to acquire both go for it. But the Reddick move seems so like Veach just like Erving and Ragland.
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Old 10-10-2018, 07:14 AM   #169
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Per source, #Cardinals are “stepping up their efforts” to trade hybrid safety Deone Bucannan. #Chiefs HAVE made contact about potential deals for Bucannan & fellow defender LB Reddick. #ChiefsKingdom
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Old 10-10-2018, 07:39 AM   #170
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Old 10-10-2018, 08:00 AM   #172
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But there are some members here that will believe this type of stuff.

It's one thing to logically speak about potential trades, draft picks, etc. To fill the heads of some of these airheads on here with that idea, to go along with their ridiculous takes is like feeding the dumb.
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Old 10-10-2018, 08:07 AM   #173
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I would love Reddick. He’s got the athleticism and pass rush ability to make a difference here.

Plus we get him for 3.5 years cost controlled. Flip a 3rd and get this dude in here.
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From where I’m sitting, Veach has nailed most of his trades.

Right now, Jordan Lucas and Cam Erving (eating crow) look like major wins. Ragland is a lot better than he’s shown and I think he may be unhealthy, but I’ve got hope that he’ll continue to get better here. Charvarius Ward looks like he may be a player if he ever gets CB time, good STs guy at the moment.

So if we make a deal for one of these guys, I fully expect it to be a good thing for us. Give him shit for the Speaks pick if you want but for the most part Veach has shown he knows what he’s doing and gets shit done.
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I can't imagine it would take a 3rd.

Maybe a 5th.
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From where I’m sitting, Veach has nailed most of his trades.

Right now, Jordan Lucas and Cam Erving (eating crow) look like major wins. Ragland is a lot better than he’s shown and I think he may be unhealthy, but I’ve got hope that he’ll continue to get better here. Charvarius Ward looks like he may be a player if he ever gets CB time, good STs guy at the moment.

So if we make a deal for one of these guys, I fully expect it to be a good thing for us. Give him shit for the Speaks pick if you want but for the most part Veach has shown he knows what he’s doing and gets shit done.
Erving looks good, but lets pump the brakes a little bit on Lucas. He's played like a half.
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Erving looks good, but lets pump the brakes a little bit on Lucas. He's played like a half.
I know, I know. But I’m telling you man. He’s good.

I watched some of the all-22 clips. He shows everything you want. He was even telling guys where to line up at times, including Ron Parker. He’s smart and plays hard. Was always in good position, around the ball.

I think he’s a gem.
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I know, I know. But I’m telling you man. He’s good.

I watched some of the all-22 clips. He shows everything you want. He was even telling guys where to line up at times, including Ron Parker. He’s smart and plays hard. Was always in good position, around the ball.

I think he’s a gem.
Sure, but it was still a half. I've seen guys look like an all pro for a half.

Lets just let it play out.
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From where I’m sitting, Veach has nailed most of his trades.

Right now, Jordan Lucas and Cam Erving (eating crow) look like major wins. Ragland is a lot better than he’s shown and I think he may be unhealthy, but I’ve got hope that he’ll continue to get better here. Charvarius Ward looks like he may be a player if he ever gets CB time, good STs guy at the moment.

So if we make a deal for one of these guys, I fully expect it to be a good thing for us. Give him shit for the Speaks pick if you want but for the most part Veach has shown he knows what he’s doing and gets shit done.
Xavier Williams was an outstanding move. He’s our best run stuffer and hasn’t been the problem with the run defense problems.

He also got a sack last weekend. I seriously hope Veach extends him a couple years.
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I know, I know. But I’m telling you man. He’s good.

I watched some of the all-22 clips. He shows everything you want. He was even telling guys where to line up at times, including Ron Parker. He’s smart and plays hard. Was always in good position, around the ball.

I think he’s a gem.
Plus he’s cost-controlled in 2019 as a RFA.

I certainly want him to work out.
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