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Old 02-26-2020, 10:28 PM  
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***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

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Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
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People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

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Old 06-03-2020, 10:32 PM   #34426
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Old 06-03-2020, 10:33 PM   #34427
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http://archive.is/cloVY#selection-1685.0-1693.323
WHO has resumed studies of hydroxychloroquine btw............

After they realized the Study published by Two of the world’s leading medical journals – the Lancet and the New England Journal of Medicine – published studies based on Surgisphere data. The studies were co-authored by the firm’s chief executive, Sapan Desai.

The World Health Organization and a number of national governments have changed their Covid-19 policies and treatments on the basis of flawed data from a little-known US healthcare analytics company, also calling into question the integrity of key studies published in some of the world’s most prestigious medical journals.
A Guardian investigation can reveal the US-based company Surgisphere, whose handful of employees appear to include a science fiction writer and an adult-content model, has provided data for multiple studies on Covid-19 co-authored by its chief executive, but has so far failed to adequately explain its data or methodology.


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Your link didn't work, but I read up on this a little bit ago.

I think the biggest question that is raised is their info on hospitalizations in the US, wherein they claim somewhere around 65k hospitalizations as part of the study when there were only around 65k who had been hospitalized total at that point. That does not seem possible, although they claim to have captured data past April 13.

This is what the peer review process should uncover. I do think they need to be fully candid and release the info on where they got their data from.
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Old 06-03-2020, 10:43 PM   #34428
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A new study in NEJM about hydroxychloroquine for post-exposure prophylaxis of COVID-19.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.105...elated_article

People (almost all healthcare workers) who were in close contact with known cases were either given hydroxychloroquine or placebo.

We included participants who had household or occupational exposure to a person with confirmed Covid-19 at a distance of less than 6 ft for more than 10 minutes while wearing neither a face mask nor an eye shield (high-risk exposure) or while wearing a face mask but no eye shield (moderate-risk exposure).

The biggest issue I'd have with this trial is that the drugs (hydroxychloroquine or placebo) were mailed to the patients (who were randomized and double-blinded). As it was not done in clinic, it's difficult to ascertain if people actually took all of the drugs, but as they were double-blind, patients would be no less likely to take the placebo or the active drug and would stop due to side effects.

Full adherence to the trial intervention differed according to trial group, with 75.4% of participants in the hydroxychloroquine group (312 of 414) and 82.6% of those in the placebo group (336 of 407) having taken all 19 prescribed tablets over a period of 5 days (P=0.01)

However, the trial was fully powered (had a sufficient sample size).

Findings:

The incidence of new illness compatible with Covid-19 did not differ significantly between those receiving hydroxychloroquine (49 of 414 [11.8%]) and those receiving placebo (58 of 407 [14.3%]) (P=0.35). The absolute difference was −2.4 percentage points (95% confidence interval, −7.0 to 2.2).

As the confidence interval spanned 0 and the p> 0.05, there was no benefit from taking hydroxychloroquine to prevent COVID-19 after initial exposure.
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Old 06-03-2020, 10:53 PM   #34429
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That's alarmingly accurate from the stories I've heard.
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Old 06-04-2020, 08:33 AM   #34430
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I thought the 14 day thing had been debunked and is now like 11 days?
Last I read it was on average like 5 days to symptoms but could be up to 14? Kind thinking the 14 is an outlier and it's more in the 6-8 day range?

We'll find out soon enough.
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Old 06-04-2020, 08:40 AM   #34431
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Last I read it was on average like 5 days to symptoms but could be up to 14? Kind thinking the 14 is an outlier and it's more in the 6-8 day range?

We'll find out soon enough.
Okay so what I was thinking of is I guess it's after 11 days you are no longer "infectious" after getting sick

https://www.foxnews.com/science/covi...r-getting-sick
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Old 06-04-2020, 08:42 AM   #34432
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And for what I was referring to yesterday about lower lows was this..
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Old 06-04-2020, 10:26 AM   #34433
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My antibody test was “inconclusive” and they’ll likely test me again.
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Old 06-04-2020, 10:30 AM   #34434
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My antibody test was “inconclusive” and they’ll likely test me again.
Very interesting. We know you had it and you get that. I was sick as **** and my antibody came back negative which it may be but with yours coming back that way I way I am curious.
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Old 06-04-2020, 10:42 AM   #34435
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My antibody test was “inconclusive” and they’ll likely test me again.
You had very mild symptoms IIRC?

I would imagine you cleared it without needing an adaptive response.
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Old 06-04-2020, 10:44 AM   #34436
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You had very mild symptoms IIRC?

I would imagine you cleared it without needing an adaptive response.
English...what are you saying? That lew is so bad ass he killed the virus and didn't even have to create an antibody to do it?
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Old 06-04-2020, 10:48 AM   #34437
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English...what are you saying? That lew is so bad ass he killed the virus and didn't even have to create an antibody to do it?
We have innate immune responses and adaptive. Adaptive being b cells creating antibodies. Innate being t cells and NKC that usually wipe out a lot of lesser diseases and such that we never really know we had them.

It's been a while since immunology and virology, but IIRC, even when you use the innate response and don't need the antibodies, you develop some memory b cells that will help with future infections of a recognized antigen.

Again, it's been a while so I may be off ther.
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https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...gn-manipulati/

Australian researchers see virus design manipulation
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Old 06-04-2020, 11:23 AM   #34439
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As the confidence interval spanned 0 and the p> 0.05, there was no benefit from taking hydroxychloroquine to prevent COVID-19 after initial exposure.
My largest complaint with this "controversy" was the idea that using it as a possible treatment was dangerous or deadly.

Physicians are aware (competent one's anyway) of who should or shouldn't be allowed to take the drug and the well known dangers as they relate to heart health. This drug was not proven to be a cure or even a treatment just an experimental one.

IMO both the prospects and the dangers of this drug were overblown cause "muh politics."
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Kansas City area has 3rd consecutive day of triple-digit rise in new COVID-19 cases

The metro gained 133 cases Thursday. Seventy-one of the cases were in Kansas City, 20 were in Jackson County, 24 were in Johnson County, 12 were in Wyandotte County, four were in Clay County and two were in Platte County.

The positive test rate ranges from 2.11% in Clay County to 3.96% in Jackson County, 4% in Johnson County, 4.01% in Kansas City and 15.9% in Wyandotte County. The Platte County Health Department does not list this data.
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