***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Pants]

Originally Posted by DaFace

What do you think this is, the 90s? How am I supposed to find the 30 seconds to actually understand something when I can just overreact to an inflammatory headline?

I don't know about you, but I, FOR ONE, trust Twitter. K?

[loochy]

Originally Posted by Pants

I don't know about you, but I, FOR ONE, trust Twitter. K?

bitchute is where it's at, brah

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

Just lost another one today to Covid. Mid-60s, but no indication that there were other issues. This really stinks.

That sucks man. Thoughts with you.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

Interesting interview, but "Tom Elliott" summarized it very poorly and inaccurately. I would encourage readers to ignore what he said and watch the interview.

Its not really any better and his comments about "there will be restrictions" for up to another 9 months is pretty damn irritating to me.

When did Bill Gates get elected to a position of authority by anyone?

[Pants]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Its not really any better and his comments about "there will be restrictions" for up to another 9 months is pretty damn irritating to me.

When did Bill Gates get elected to a position of authority by anyone?

He wasn't and he is not making any decisions. He is clearly just offering his opinion in that video.

[sedated]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Its not really any better and his comments about "there will be restrictions" for up to another 9 months is pretty damn irritating to me.

When did Bill Gates get elected to a position of authority by anyone?

If its just his opinion then who cares.

And "restrictions" can mean a lot of things. If places are only requiring masks and enforcing distancing, I don't see an issue.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Its not really any better and his comments about "there will be restrictions" for up to another 9 months is pretty damn irritating to me.

When did Bill Gates get elected to a position of authority by anyone?

I've stated there will be restrictions in the fall, yet no one has railed about me.

It's pretty obvious that there will have to be restrictions. He didn't say "YOU ****ERS ARE GONNA STAY IN YOUR HOMES AND YOU WILL LIKE IT!!!!" He just said that there will probably be some restrictions until the rest of the world can catch up and we can get our vaccination rates high. All of that is obvious and correct.

Quite frankly, the hatred of Bill Gates is one of the most strange parts of this entire situation to me. It's just bizarre.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by DaFace

I've stated there will be restrictions in the fall, yet no one has railed about me.

It's pretty obvious that there will have to be restrictions. He didn't say "YOU ****ERS ARE GONNA STAY IN YOUR HOMES AND YOU WILL LIKE IT!!!!" He just said that there will probably be some restrictions until the rest of the world can catch up and we can get our vaccination rates high. All of that is obvious and correct.

Quite frankly, the hatred of Bill Gates is one of the most strange parts of this entire situation to me. It's just bizarre.

it's because he comes across as some rich guy that just interjected himself into all this


and yeah, i know about his foundation, yadda yadda yadda

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by DaFace

I've stated there will be restrictions in the fall, yet no one has railed about me.

It's pretty obvious that there will have to be restrictions. He didn't say "YOU ****ERS ARE GONNA STAY IN YOUR HOMES AND YOU WILL LIKE IT!!!!" He just said that there will probably be some restrictions until the rest of the world can catch up and we can get our vaccination rates high. All of that is obvious and correct.

Quite frankly, the hatred of Bill Gates is one of the most strange parts of this entire situation to me. It's just bizarre.

I had someone literally try and argue with me that the school that Fauci graduated medical school from was the equivalent of a community college.

So yeah, the guy that graduated from Cornell, is the editor of the Infectious Disease section of Harrison's Principles of Internal medicine, and has run the NIH for the better part of four decades is a clown, but a family practice doc that posts his data through tweet is the guy we should be listening to.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by loochy

it's because he comes across as some rich guy that just interjected himself into all this


and yeah, i know about his foundation, yadda yadda yadda

But that's the part I don't understand. He didn't "just interject himself" into all of this. He's been at it for 20 years. He's widely viewed as one of the most impactful philanthropists of our lifetimes. It's just that much of those impacts have been outside the U.S. because we haven't previously needed it here. (And even then, he's given a shit ton of money to educational causes in the U.S. that have impacted local communities everywhere even if you weren't aware of it.)

If you view him as randomly showing up during this pandemic, you're just being willfully ignorant.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I had someone literally try and argue with me that the school that Fauci graduated medical school from was the equivalent of a community college.

So yeah, the guy that graduated from Cornell, is the editor of the Infectious Disease section of Harrison's Principles of Internal medicine, and has run the NIH for the better part of four decades is a clown, but a family practice doc that posts his data through tweet is the guy we should be listening to.

Pssh, he should't even use the title of Dr. They just give those away like candy now. /cross thread humor

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I had someone literally try and argue with me that the school that Fauci graduated medical school from was the equivalent of a community college.

So yeah, the guy that graduated from Cornell, is the editor of the Infectious Disease section of Harrison's Principles of Internal medicine, and has run the NIH for the better part of four decades is a clown, but a family practice doc that posts his data through tweet is the guy we should be listening to.

I work with data for a living, and I've realized in recent years that sound data and reasoning only go so far compared to compelling anecdotes. It's not literally true, but sometimes I think that people would be happier if I walked up to five people on the street to ask about their opinions but provided a video than if I'd conducted a $50k randomized survey of 10,000 people and provided a robust report about it.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by DaFace

If you view him as randomly showing up during this pandemic, you're just being willfully ignorant.

insult people however you want, but that's why


it's pretty much an image and branding thing

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

.@BillGates on Covid: "Even through 2022” we should be prepared for life to not return to “normal”

Says “sadly" it’s "appropriate” for bars and restaurants to close over the next "four to six months" pic.twitter.com/cmDD8pv3XR

— Tom Elliott (@tomselliott) December 13, 2020

Thought it was common knowledge that we are roughtly 18 months from being back to "normal" whatever that is post Covid.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

Thought it was common knowledge that we are roughtly 18 months from being back to "normal" whatever that is post Covid.

if you're a cuck