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Old 01-05-2021, 02:20 PM  
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Dolphins GM says Tua is QB for 2021

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Chris Grier says Tua Tagovailoa is the Dolphins 2021 QB.
Despite having the #3 pick... the plan appears to be trying to help Tua out.

Love this because this team could be really good if they get the QB right, and I don’t think Tua is it.
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Old 01-05-2021, 02:36 PM   #16
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What a disastrous decision. Tua won't amount to shit
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Old 01-05-2021, 02:36 PM   #17
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Tua sucks

he showed up in a dress like a bitch and couldn't win without his dad (fitzmagic) there to support him
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Old 01-05-2021, 02:36 PM   #18
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They’ll draft Sewell, Chase, or Smith unless they trade down.

I still think Tua can be a great game manager, so if they continue to build around him and get that defense playing at an elite level, they could still be a damn good team.

Imagine them getting one of those 3 and Najee Harris...
Might as well draft all of his Bama buds and try to recreate what he did in college
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Old 01-05-2021, 02:38 PM   #19
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I could see it, but I think I’d personally go Chase.

Seeing how good Jefferson is, and thinking how much better Chase was than him in 2019, it’s easy not to forget just how good of a prospect Chase is/was for me.

I don’t think you can go wrong with either guy though.

But Sewell would still be #1 on my board either way. They could move Jackson over to RT and slide Hunt inside. You probably get better at 3 positions with that pick while having up to 4 starters on the OL within the first 2 years of their rookie deals.

Then add Harris or Etienne and you’ve really got something.
Other than not having a QB and they will continue to be Buffalo's bitch
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Old 01-05-2021, 02:38 PM   #20
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Tua has a Chad Pennington arm.

Don't know how far that's going to take him.
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Old 01-05-2021, 02:40 PM   #21
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The Dolphins should hire Galu Tagovailoa to whip their young QB into shape.
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Old 01-05-2021, 02:40 PM   #22
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Other than not having a QB and they will continue to be Buffalo's bitch
That will absolutely be their weakness and probably keep them from winning a SB.

But if they build a great team around Tua and he can at least be a game manager, they could still be a really good football team.
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Old 01-05-2021, 02:42 PM   #23
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Lol, horse shit. There was nothing cerebral about Tua.

And people proclaimed that Herbert was a noodle arm, inaccurate QB with no leadership qualities.
I get it that the NFL is all about instant gratification. You shouldn't write a QB off in their rookie year. BTW, I never thought Miami should have handed Tua the starting job. He is not as ready as Fitz.

Lots of rookies would look bad compared to Fitz because Fitz is a good, seasoned NFL QB.

What I see with Tua is a guy who is just a touch behind and the NFL is a little bit fast for him. When it slows down, which it will, I think people who said he's a bust will look silly.

Speaking of the AFC East, Tua is WAY ahead of where Allen was Year 1 in the NFL.
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Tua has a Chad Pennington arm.

Don't know how far that's going to take him.
Pennington was the master of the 9-10 win season.

And getting hurt.....
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Old 01-05-2021, 02:45 PM   #25
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Tua's ceiling is Alex Smith imo. Assuming he stays healthy enough to be a check-down game manager.
Okay, let's go with that. Alex Smith is a winner. He's won 99-168 games, has all respectable QB stats, and if not for a couple really weird circumstances, he'd have a few more playoff wins. If he has a really critical weakness to his game, it's his reluctance to air it out, right? He's too conservative many times.

But what if Tua is basically the same QB, but is willing to go downfield say . . . 25% more often? Basically you're talking about Joe Montana Lite. Except Tua will be able to run a little, like Alex could in his early years.

My point is just that it's too early to know exactly what they've got in Tua. Too early to just go after another QB anyway. He might not have some of the physical metrics, but if he's really as cerebral as everyone thought he was, then maybe the game he should be emulating is Alex Smith with a touch of Montana thrown in. That could work.
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Louis Riddick was on ESPN today basically ripping the shit out of people for saying the Dolphins should draft a QB and "The expectations people have for young QBs is ridiculous"
He's absolutely right.
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I get it that the NFL is all about instant gratification. You shouldn't write a QB off in their rookie year. BTW, I never thought Miami should have handed Tua the starting job. He is not as ready as Fitz.

Lots of rookies would look bad compared to Fitz because Fitz is a good, seasoned NFL QB.

What I see with Tua is a guy who is just a touch behind and the NFL is a little bit fast for him. When it slows down, which it will, I think people who said he's a bust will look silly.

Speaking of the AFC East, Tua is WAY ahead of where Allen was Year 1 in the NFL.
Depends on what you consider a bust. I think Tua will have a 10 year career assuming he stays healthy. I just don't think he ever develops into your prototypical franchise QB. He'll be in that Teddy Bridgwater tier of QB's. Imo.
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Okay, let's go with that. Alex Smith is a winner. He's won 99-168 games, has all respectable QB stats, and if not for a couple really weird circumstances, he'd have a few more playoff wins. If he has a really critical weakness to his game, it's his reluctance to air it out, right? He's too conservative many times.

But what if Tua is basically the same QB, but is willing to go downfield say . . . 25% more often? Basically you're talking about Joe Montana Lite. Except Tua will be able to run a little, like Alex could in his early years.

My point is just that it's too early to know exactly what they've got in Tua. Too early to just go after another QB anyway. He might not have some of the physical metrics, but if he's really as cerebral as everyone thought he was, then maybe the game he should be emulating is Alex Smith with a touch of Montana thrown in. That could work.
I agree that it's too early to draft another QB. Tua showed enough to cock tease you. I just don't think he's any good under pressure and can't throw into tight windows. He's reluctant, almost gun shy. Kinda robotic like a Daniel Jones. He doesn't exude god-given talent like some of these other guys. He's going to have to work really ****ing hard at it, and i think he WILL, as he seems like a hard working, high character guy. But his ceiling will always be limited by his talent. That's my 2-cents at least.

I see him as a capable NFL QB at leading a low-powered offense with a focus on not turning the ball over and playing defense. I don't see him as ever being "the man".
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He's absolutely right.
But Tua sucks, so....
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He's absolutely right.
Expectations have changed. Too many QB's coming out of the draft now and finding early success.
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