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Old 03-19-2022, 07:50 AM  
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Old 06-09-2022, 09:11 AM   #211
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Been a terrible series in Tampa this week. Need to turn it around. We finally get our hitters going and now it’s the pitchers who are shitting the bed.
When you're running Naughton, Oviedo, Wittgren and McFarland out there to pitch a game you should probably expect to give up 11 runs.

It's just ridiculous.

Still blows my mind that this team went through what it went through with its pitching staff last year, added Steven Matz and thought 'well this is good...'

They needed to add at LEAST 2 starting pitchers and a 3rd guy who could be a viable swing reliever but still spot-start (who isn't some Japanese import who's almost certainly a Bond villain. Drew VerHagen has a volcano lair somewhere, I am certain of this).

How - HOW - are we finding ourselves in a position where Oviedo is on the big league roster again? He shouldn't even be in AAA right now. He hasn't developed a single bit in the 3 years we've been calling him up and every time he comes up its the same shit. And he has some of the worst body language you'll ever see from a pitcher. You know why? He knows he has no business pitching at this level. He has no idea how to get through an AB up there without hoping someone swings at a junk slider or blasts a slider into someone's glove. He realizes he's drawing dead and he's miserable. As any one of us would be. And next year he'll be out of options so we'll almost certainly end up DFAing him because we absolutely can't roster him for a full year. But we won't send his ass to Springfield to work on fastball command and sharpening up his secondary offerings like we should.

Wittgren is first on the team in games pitched and is rocking a 1.7 WHIP w/ 10 BBs to 11 Ks in 22 innings - befitting a guy with an ERA over 6 (frankly, it should probably be higher).

TJ McFarland is 4th and has a WHIP near TWO!! With an ERA over eight.

Just a HELL of a team you've built here, Moe. And it was just so damn obvious to anyone that looked at this roster in the spring. The staff was a complete shit-show and that's all it ever had a chance to be.

I cannot for the life of me understand how John Mozeliak still has a job.
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Old 06-09-2022, 09:24 AM   #212
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When you're running Naughton, Oviedo, Wittgren and McFarland out there to pitch a game you should probably expect to give up 11 runs.

It's just ridiculous.

Still blows my mind that this team went through what it went through with its pitching staff last year, added Steven Matz and thought 'well this is good...'

They needed to add at LEAST 2 starting pitchers and a 3rd guy who could be a viable swing reliever but still spot-start (who isn't some Japanese import who's almost certainly a Bond villain. Drew VerHagen has a volcano lair somewhere, I am certain of this).

How - HOW - are we finding ourselves in a position where Oviedo is on the big league roster again? He shouldn't even be in AAA right now. He hasn't developed a single bit in the 3 years we've been calling him up and every time he comes up its the same shit. And he has some of the worst body language you'll ever see from a pitcher. You know why? He knows he has no business pitching at this level. He has no idea how to get through an AB up there without hoping someone swings at a junk slider or blasts a slider into someone's glove. He realizes he's drawing dead and he's miserable. As any one of us would be. And next year he'll be out of options so we'll almost certainly end up DFAing him because we absolutely can't roster him for a full year. But we won't send his ass to Springfield to work on fastball command and sharpening up his secondary offerings like we should.

Wittgren is first on the team in games pitched and is rocking a 1.7 WHIP w/ 10 BBs to 11 Ks in 22 innings - befitting a guy with an ERA over 6 (frankly, it should probably be higher).

TJ McFarland is 4th and has a WHIP near TWO!! With an ERA over eight.

Just a HELL of a team you've built here, Moe. And it was just so damn obvious to anyone that looked at this roster in the spring. The staff was a complete shit-show and that's all it ever had a chance to be.

I cannot for the life of me understand how John Mozeliak still has a job.
I looked at who was starting last nights game and didn't even bother to tune it.
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Old 06-09-2022, 09:44 AM   #213
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I looked at who was starting last nights game and didn't even bother to tune it.
Yeah, there’s little utility in tuning into these ‘piggyback’ games because both the starter and the bulk reliever suck.

The only guy we have that could take that bulk reliever role and handle it adequately is Thompson and ultimately they should just start him.

This team is carrying 14 pitchers and maybe 8 of them are big league caliber. It really is embarrassing.
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Old 06-09-2022, 09:58 AM   #214
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Yeah, there’s little utility in tuning into these ‘piggyback’ games because both the starter and the bulk reliever suck.

The only guy we have that could take that bulk reliever role and handle it adequately is Thompson and ultimately they should just start him.

This team is carrying 14 pitchers and maybe 8 of them are big league caliber. It really is embarrassing.
Honestly they’re better off throwing Yadi out there every 5th day. **** it
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McFarland didn’t even know how many outs there were. They are spending too much time partying and or at the beach? 90% of the team haven’t even shown up.
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3 picks and some shit defense.....Mahomes should have to walk home from Denver. That was a piss poor game on his part.
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Hudson and Mikolas pitched great games and gave us a chance to win. Maybe it’s a MLB issue but we sure could use some more consistent hitting.
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3 picks and some shit defense.....Mahomes should have to walk home from Denver. That was a piss poor game on his part.
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Who would have thought running the same team out there as last year would produce similar results?
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Old 06-11-2022, 06:36 AM   #219
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Who would have thought running the same team out there as last year would produce similar results?
Right now we are super fortunate that the Brewers have shit the bed too. That's not going to last though. They really need an arm at the deadline but they are going to pump up Flaherty coming back like he can pitch more than 3 starts without going back to the DL.
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Right now we are super fortunate that the Brewers have shit the bed too. That's not going to last though. They really need an arm at the deadline but they are going to pump up Flaherty coming back like he can pitch more than 3 starts without going back to the DL.
Maybe they’ll win 17 in a row again to make an immediate unceremonious exit from the playoffs.
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Maybe they’ll win 17 in a row again to make an immediate unceremonious exit from the playoffs.
There's always hope! And as long as Mormol doesn't ask Mo for pitching or disagree with his assessment of the needs of the club he will have a job.
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Sounds like Flaherty is back and starting tomorrow.
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Sounds like Flaherty is back and starting tomorrow.
Great! At this rate he can probably squeeze in another stint on the IL before the All-Star break
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