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Old 06-27-2016, 11:23 AM  
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Personal finance and investing megathread extravaganza

I know lewdog (and maybe others) have mentioned the desire to have a place to chat about personal finance stuff. We'll see if there's enough interest to keep this going in the long-term, but at least for now, here's a place to chat about whatever personal finance topics come up.



If you're just getting started thinking about saving and don't know where to begin, this flow chart can help. Ask for advice in the thread for more help!

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Old 08-02-2018, 08:01 PM   #2221
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Goldman Sachs downgraded IQ to "neutral" and it took another dump.

Probably so these rich assholes can buy it low and watch it go sky high in a year.

****ing jerks.
The smart people like me bought in near $30. I've got a covered call for August for $37.5. If it doesn't hit I make some money but I am hoping it does so I can get out from this shit.

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This stuff worries me a little bit, because it seems like it's creating an artificial demand that will stop at some point.
Apple has loads of money. Not likely.

I bought in on July 23rd for $188 and sold today on a limit order at $205. Not bad for a week's worth of work.

Apple usually has a spike, followed by a pullback after many good earnings reports. I may re-enter in a long position if it dips below $195 again but my always concern with Apple is it's composition share in many mutual funds I already own. When Apple does well, those funds usually benefit from Apple's gain. Not sure I want to add more investment risk for my long-term positions by loading individual stocks on a company that makes up so many other funds.
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Old 08-02-2018, 08:27 PM   #2222
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The smart people like me bought in near $30. I've got a covered call for August for $37.5. If it doesn't hit I make some money but I am hoping it does so I can get out from this shit.



Apple has loads of money. Not likely.

I bought in on July 23rd for $188 and sold today on a limit order at $205. Not bad for a week's worth of work.

Apple usually has a spike, followed by a pullback after many good earnings reports. I may re-enter in a long position if it dips below $195 again but my always concern with Apple is it's composition share in many mutual funds I already own. When Apple does well, those funds usually benefit from Apple's gain. Not sure I want to add more investment risk for my long-term positions by loading individual stocks on a company that makes up so many other funds.
Don't get cocky, sunfresh.....the market will show you how smart you thought you were but really weren't in a hurry.
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Old 08-02-2018, 09:20 PM   #2223
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Don't get cocky, sunfresh.....the market will show you how smart you thought you were but really weren't in a hurry.
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Old 08-02-2018, 09:27 PM   #2224
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But getting back to basics, I always like a good value investment. May buy a long position in this shortly.

Talking about General Mills (GIS). Currently $45/share.


It has all the makings of value stock.
* 15 PE ratio
* 4.29% dividend
* trading at bottom of 5 year range. Was over $60/share in 2018
* Profitable by any and all measures. Cash flow is more than enough to handle their debt.
*Acquired Blue Buffalo for entry into the Pet Food business

Nothing exciting here but I think this one should jump back to $55 in no time.
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Old 08-02-2018, 09:36 PM   #2225
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Another possible value investment but not without risk is Ford Motor. Recently returned to single digit stock for first time since 2012. It's not been pretty but it could make a decent comeback and the 6% dividend is very nice. But could that dividend be at risk similar to GE? Without a nice dividend, would Ford be worth holding? That's unlikely. I hold a small position of Ford Motor for the long-term and the dividend is the main reason on this one.
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Old 08-02-2018, 09:44 PM   #2226
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But getting back to basics, I always like a good value investment. May buy a long position in this shortly.

Talking about General Mills (GIS). Currently $45/share.


It has all the makings of value stock.
* 15 PE ratio
* 4.29% dividend
* trading at bottom of 5 year range. Was over $60/share in 2018
* Profitable by any and all measures. Cash flow is more than enough to handle their debt.
*Acquired Blue Buffalo for entry into the Pet Food business

Nothing exciting here but I think this one should jump back to $55 in no time.
My wife thought I was a fool for buying GIS a couple of years ago, and she was right. I think I'm down 25 percent or some such proportion. She thinks that their products are all old-school and that new generations of customers aren't interested in them. She may be correct, but I have to think that they've got enough market research to understand consumer directions and shift their product line if that's the case. I'm holding on, hoping for a comeback.
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Old 08-06-2018, 08:53 PM   #2227
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Alibaba is getting pounded by this trade war, and unjustly so in my opinion. Could be a good buy in position. I am still long on BABA. Their financials are top notch. "The Amazon on China."

I hold a long term position on BABA and am looking to buy more on this dip.


/I wrote this article myself, and it expresses my own opinions. I am not receiving compensation for it. I have no business relationship with any company whose stock is mentioned in this article. Buy at your own risk.
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My wife thought I was a fool for being GIS a couple of years ago, and she was right. I think I'm down 25 percent or some such proportion. She thinks that their products are all old-school and that new generations of customers aren't interested in them. She may be correct, but I have to think that they've got enough market research to understand consumer directions and shift their product line if that's the case. I'm holding on, hoping for a comeback.
It went up 5% in a few days after I wrote this on here.

Hope you bought more!
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It went up 5% in a few days after I wrote this on here.

Hope you bought more!
I didn't buy more, but now I'm only down 20%, so it's a win (relatively speaking).
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Thatís....interesting.
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Thatís....interesting.
It had also better be legit or he can find his ass in a lot of trouble with the SEC.
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It had also better be legit or he can find his ass in a lot of trouble with the SEC.
It's legit.

https://www.tesla.com/blog/taking-tesla-private

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Yeah, everything he says makes sense, and is part of the same stuff others talk about -- pressure on short term results instead of long term, etc. -- but given the nature of this company they are more vulnerable.

Not sure how he could give current shareholders the right to stay in as owners of a private company. Last I knew if you had X number of shareholders (400 or 500?) you would automatically become a public company and subject to reporting requirements. But maybe those rules have changed, I no longer do '33 and '34 Act stuff.
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