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Old 11-07-2018, 01:48 PM  
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Jeff Sessions steps down

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Old 11-07-2018, 04:29 PM   #121
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Just disappointed that it didn't work out.

I like Sessions a lot; I think he's a dedicated public servant with a true moral compass. I think he's a good person who does what he thinks is right.

But the recusal thing just put him at odds with Trump from the beginning and there was never a good way for him to work his way back into Trump's good graces. And while I think Trump bullied the guy, generally unfairly, Trump does have the right to work with an AG he wants to work with.

I really wish they'd have found a way to make that relationship work better. It would've required more emotional maturity than Trump has demonstrated to this point and perhaps a little more political savvy or willingness to just play the game than Sessions showed, but it could've been done.
I don't get why you put any of this on Trump.

"RUSSIA!!!" started before Sessions took his spot. He should have never accepted the post without being certain that he wouldn't do something as stupid as recusing himself from the first probe on the list. And, once he did put the president in the position of having an impotent AG to start his term, he should have immediately apologized and resigned. By staying on, he completely screwed Trump, who was not in a strong enough position at the start to just jettison Sessions without there being an internal Republican uprising.

If we're looking to blame Trump for personnel isues, we've got plenty of ammo. Blame him for bringing Amarosa into the White House, for example. That was always a disaster waiting to happen.
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Old 11-07-2018, 04:30 PM   #122
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Is it standard practice to publicly belittle a cabinet member repeatedly?
Guess not sure what your point is? This was a long time coming and Trump by accepting a resignation handled this in the standard way.

Has Trump handled communications with Sessions properly, no. For the most part, I agree with how Sessions has handled the position. The only real disagreement is that is his recusal from Russia was way too broad. Sure he should have stepped aside where he was personally involved, after a showing that there was probable cause he committed a crime or a witness to the events so far he has not had a conflict with any indictment brought and the DOJ should have handled everyone of them.

But other then that I think he has done a good job and has had to battle a lot of career DOJ officials trying to stop his progress.

Rosenstein should not have been the one overseeing Mueller, he has more of a conflict then Sessions and I am glad he is not going to be any longer.
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Old 11-07-2018, 04:30 PM   #123
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Is it standard practice to publicly belittle a cabinet member repeatedly?
Why not? I'm sure he talked to him privately and his job performance didn't improve, so this was the next step. Hell he should have fired him a year ago, as soon as he proved that he had no spine.
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Old 11-07-2018, 04:32 PM   #124
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Not really left field at all. Sessions either resigned, resigned at request or was fired. Seems to be a pertinent topic, eh?
Not really, Comey was simply fired for his incompetence.

I think in this case, itís pretty clear Trump planned on having a wartime consigliere if the Democrats won the house. Itís possible that Sessions agreed thatís heís not the guy to be at the helm when the bullets start flying, understood and fulfilled the Presidentís wishes.
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Old 11-07-2018, 04:33 PM   #125
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Beyond the Mueller issues everyone is focusing on, it will be interesting to see if the DoJ finally produces all the docs that GOP Congress has asked for before Nancy takes the gavel.
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Old 11-07-2018, 04:34 PM   #126
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I don't get why you put any of this on Trump.

"RUSSIA!!!" started before Sessions took his spot. He should have never accepted the post without being certain that he wouldn't do something as stupid as recusing himself from the first probe on the list. And, once he did put the president in the position of having an impotent AG to start his term, he should have immediately apologized and resigned. By staying on, he completely screwed Trump, who was not in a strong enough position at the start to just jettison Sessions without there being an internal Republican uprising.

If we're looking to blame Trump for personnel isues, we've got plenty of ammo. Blame him for bringing Amarosa into the White House, for example. That was always a disaster waiting to happen.
Let's not forget the ****ing coward never opened a probe into Hillary and the Dems that was equally worded to what Rosenstein did to Trump.

He's not a fighter, in fact he's a coward! He should lose his clearance!
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Old 11-07-2018, 04:35 PM   #127
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Going door to door for the socialist scumbags. I think phony Comey is finally coming out of the closet and showing his true colors.
One thing The Hildebeast was right about: If Trump "was elected we [they] will all hang." These criminals who provided cover for her crimes as well as Obama, Brennan, their own and others are trying to hang wrongdoing on Trump or any in his campaign or connected to him to get the attention or threat away from their own crimes. They have protested way too much, because they're the real criminals. It's another reason why the Deep State or The Swamp feels so threatened by Trump.
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Old 11-07-2018, 04:37 PM   #128
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One thing The Hildebeast was right about: If Trump "was elected we [they] will all hang." These criminals who provided cover for her crimes as well as Obama, Brennan, their own and others are trying to hang wrongdoing on Trump or any in his campaign or connected to him to get the attention or threat away from their own crimes. They have protested way too much, because they're the real criminals. It's another reason why the Deep State or The Swamp feels so threatened by Trump.
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Old 11-07-2018, 04:38 PM   #129
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Everyone concedes that Trump has the ability to do it.

Some will even concede that Trump should have done it a long time ago.

I have complete confidence that if Trump is doing this for nefarious reasons we'll know soon because you'll see Rosenstein quit. If there's nothing to worry about he won't. If Rosenstein quits because of a lack of integrity on the part of the process then you'll also see scads of other DoJ attorneys bail within the next 24 hours.

Absent that this is just another chapter in the drama...
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Old 11-07-2018, 04:39 PM   #130
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Guess not sure what your point is? This was a long time coming and Trump by accepting a resignation handled this in the standard way.

Has Trump handled communications with Sessions properly, no. For the most part, I agree with how Sessions has handled the position. The only real disagreement is that is his recusal from Russia was way too broad. Sure he should have stepped aside where he was personally involved, after a showing that there was probable cause he committed a crime or a witness to the events so far he has not had a conflict with any indictment brought and the DOJ should have handled everyone of them.

But other then that I think he has done a good job and has had to battle a lot of career DOJ officials trying to stop his progress.

Rosenstein should not have been the one overseeing Mueller, he has more of a conflict then Sessions and I am glad he is not going to be any longer.
Oh, I think it I doubt any of us can recall a recent POTUS publicly humiliating his AG or any other cabinet member like Trump did Sessions. Hence, it's not standard practice.
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Old 11-07-2018, 04:40 PM   #131
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Not really, Comey was simply fired for his incompetence.

I think in this case, itís pretty clear Trump planned on having a wartime consigliere if the Democrats won the house. Itís possible that Sessions agreed thatís heís not the guy to be at the helm when the bullets start flying, understood and fulfilled the Presidentís wishes.
That's odd. Trump's own words tell a different story.
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Old 11-07-2018, 04:41 PM   #132
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Let's not forget the ****ing coward never opened a probe into Hillary
Wow. Harsh words for your boy Trump. Good on you.
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Guess not sure what your point is? This was a long time coming and Trump by accepting a resignation handled this in the standard way.

Has Trump handled communications with Sessions properly, no. For the most part, I agree with how Sessions has handled the position. The only real disagreement is that is his recusal from Russia was way too broad. Sure he should have stepped aside where he was personally involved, after a showing that there was probable cause he committed a crime or a witness to the events so far he has not had a conflict with any indictment brought and the DOJ should have handled everyone of them.

But other then that I think he has done a good job and has had to battle a lot of career DOJ officials trying to stop his progress.

Rosenstein should not have been the one overseeing Mueller, he has more of a conflict then Sessions and I am glad he is not going to be any longer.
When someone hates a person so intensely, they get blinded and can only see bad that person does. This is Donger.

Why anyone wastes their time with him, NJChiefsFan or Loneiguana for that matter will continue to baffle me.
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Twitter rumors are Rosenstein has or is in the process of resigning.

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Oh, I think it I doubt any of us can recall a recent POTUS publicly humiliating his AG or any other cabinet member like Trump did Sessions. Hence, it's not standard practice.
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