Alex Smith did, does, and will always suck.

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[Jakemall]

Originally Posted by Alex Smiff

Maybe losing Kendal Hunter had something to do with that, smart guy? The scheme was different as well.

You're terrible.

Yup. Losing Kendal Hunter is the reason that Frank Gore couldn't run as well. Damn good thing the 9ers didn't lose LMJ or he would have disappeared into mediocrity.

I'm sure they installed a completely offense when Kaep took over as opposed to putting in a few new wrinkles.

Sorry, not buying it.

[Alex Smiff]

Originally Posted by ViperVisor

That did Not happen.

What are you imagining happened?


The 49ers beat the Packers week 1 in 2012, on the road. With boring, safe play and Alex Smith.

What is your point? Are you saying that because Smith beat them at the beginning of the season that it would have happened in the playoffs? The same playoffs where he had no receivers and no backup RB? The same playoffs where the defense fell apart and was nowhere near as good as they were at the beginning of the season? Try again.

[Sandy Vagina]

Originally Posted by LowExpectations

Why are you ignoring the point here? The difference in completion percentage and YPA shows a clear difference in how the 49ers attacked defenses through the air. That was the whole point, doofus. Kaepernick threw it deeper, and Smith threw it shorter. What aren't you getting here?

I think we are done here until you attempt to discuss this like an adult.

[Sandy Vagina]

Originally Posted by Alex Smiff

What is your point? Are you saying that because Smith beat them at the beginning of the season that it would have happened in the playoffs? The same playoffs where he had no receivers and no backup RB? The same playoffs where the defense fell apart and was nowhere near as good as they were at the beginning of the season? Try again.

Nice excuses.

[ViperVisor]

Originally Posted by LowExpectations

Remember how much they whined about Crabtree? Boy, they're gonna HATE Bowe.

His bad drop rate was fine and dandy?

espn.go.com/blog/nfcwest/post/_/id/95245/crabtree-harvin-and-2009-wr-draft-class[/url]

The drops are cool when you are T.O. but when Crabtree was a mediocre at best #1 2009-2011, not so much.

2012 his drops dropped and was used much more in a better role for him, the slot.

[LowExpectations]

Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs

I think we are done here until you attempt to discuss this like an adult.

No, you are done because you don't have an answer to my point. The 49ers did not "play it safe because of the WR talent", they played it safe because Smith does not take risks like Kaepernick does. Make sense yet?

[Alex Smiff]

Originally Posted by Jakemall

Yup. Losing Kendal Hunter is the reason that Frank Gore couldn't run as well. Damn good thing the 9ers didn't lose LMJ or he would have disappeared into mediocrity.

I'm sure they installed a completely offense when Kaep took over as opposed to putting in a few new wrinkles.

Sorry, not buying it.

Our running game changed with Kendal Hunter being out. It also changed when we started running the option.

All you do is look at numbers that align with your distorted view of Smith and run with them. Instead of looking at them in context like most sane, intelligent people do.

We're comparing which QB's are better and you're talking about the running game. It shows just how far off you are in this argument.

[LowExpectations]

Originally Posted by ViperVisor

His bad drop rate was fine and dandy?

espn.go.com/blog/nfcwest/post/_/id/95245/crabtree-harvin-and-2009-wr-draft-class[/url]

The drops are cool when you are T.O. but when Crabtree was a mediocre at best #1 2009-2011, not so much.

2012 his drops dropped and was used much more in a better role for him, the slot.

Uh huh. What are Bowe's drop rates as of late?

[Sandy Vagina]

Originally Posted by ViperVisor

His bad drop rate was fine and dandy?

espn.go.com/blog/nfcwest/post/_/id/95245/crabtree-harvin-and-2009-wr-draft-class[/url]

The drops are cool when you are T.O. but when Crabtree was a mediocre at best #1 2009-2011, not so much.

2012 his drops dropped and was used much more in a better role for him, the slot.

To add to that, a few years ago, Crabtree was not only dropping passes... he was volley-tipping them up so the defense could snatch up INTs. Ran the wrong routes... rarely made himself available when a play broke down. Dude had issues, and it was all because he thought he was too good to practice with the team prior to September.

[Alex Smiff]

Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs

Nice excuses.

Excuses? It's the truth.

Kaep's performance last year eclipsed Smith's career.

[LowExpectations]

Originally Posted by Alex Smiff

Our running game changed with Kendal Hunter being out. It also changed when we started running the option.

All you do is look at numbers that align with your distorted view of Smith and run with them. Instead of looking at them in context like most sane, intelligent people do.

We're comparing which QB's are better and you're talking about the running game. It shows just how far off you are in this argument.

[Sandy Vagina]

Originally Posted by Alex Smiff

Excuses? It's the truth.

Kaep's performance last year eclipsed Smith's career.

Like I stated moments ago:

Bottom line is that when you like a QB? "excuses" turn into legit causation.

... and when you do not like a QB? legit causation becomes "excuses."

[LowExpectations]

Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs

To add to that, a few years ago, Crabtree was not only dropping passes... he was volley-tipping them up so the defense could snatch up INTs. Ran the wrong routes... rarely made himself available when a play broke down. Dude had issues, and it was all because he thought he was too good to practice with the team prior to September.

Are you OldMan9er from webzone? It would explain a lot. Maybe dj43?

[Jakemall]

Originally Posted by Alex Smiff

Our running game changed with Kendal Hunter being out. It also changed when we started running the option.

All you do is look at numbers that align with your distorted view of Smith and run with them. Instead of looking at them in context like most sane, intelligent people do.

We're comparing which QB's are better and you're talking about the running game. It shows just how far off you are in this argument.

I could say you're doing the same thing with the stats. I haven't done much cherry picking imo.

Yes, I'm talking about the running game. I'm sorry you don't understand how it relates to the QB...especially on a team that was relying the the Qb's presnap reads.

Originally Posted by LowExpectations

Smith had a 70% completion rate and 7.9 YPA.

Kaepernick had a 62% completion rate and 8.2 YPA.

That tells us that, once Kaepernick took over, the entire passing game changed and the 49ers started throwing it down field a whole lot more, which disproves MacIdiot's assertion that we "played it safe by design due to subpar talent". The fact of the matter is, Kaepernick had balls letting it fly, and Smith did not.

What it tells us is that Kaep was not as consistent at getting completions but still averaged more yards per attempt than Alex by an ever so slight margin. It doesn't tell us if that was a result of YAC or deeper throws. Now based on what I saw, I'd agree he did throw deeper. That is a completely different thing than "throwing to his backs" which by the way, Kaep did more than Alex did.

Originally Posted by Alex Smiff

More garbage from you. I can speculate just like you could. If Alex is playing in 2012 we don't even make it past Green Bay and you would be blaming everyone but him for his lackluster performance.

Yeah, cuz Alex couldn't beat GB the first time around in their house, right?

[Sandy Vagina]

Originally Posted by Alex Smiff

We're comparing which QB's are better and you're talking about the running game. It shows just how far off you are in this argument.

If you don't think a QB has an important and direct impact on the run game, then I don't know what to tell you. Being able to read the D pre-snap and put the offense in the best situation for success each play? Yeah... that's kind of significant.