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Old 01-29-2019, 05:44 PM  
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Is Ruth Bader Ginsberg alive?

January 29, 2019
Ruth Bader Ginsburg watch nears the end of its second month
By Taylor Day

It has been 54 days since the public laid eyes on the 85-year-old Supreme Court justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, and her absence is prompting calls for proof of life. The last time she was seen was on December 6, 2018, when she heard arguments in person at the Court. Since then, she underwent surgery on December 21 of last year after two cancerous growths from her left lung were discovered and removed. All official statements have been issued by people close to her and meant to assure the public that she is recovering quietly.

However, RBG has missed oral arguments this month for the first time in her 25-year career on the bench, and it is raising anxieties about how well and if she is recovering. It has been reported that the White House is taking steps toward preparing a short list of Supreme Court nominees in the event of Justice Ginsburg's death or departure. Adding even more fuel to the speculation, Fox & Friends "accidentally" showed a memorial graphic that claimed that Ginsburg is dead. The show apologized shortly after and blamed it on a "control room error," but it's worth noting that the graphic even being made and loaded is a disturbing, macabre preparation.

She was scheduled to attend a function called "An Evening with Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg" in Los Angeles on Tuesday evening at the Skirball Cultural Center, but the event was "regrettably canceled" because she is still recuperating from her recent surgery. A second engagement on February 6 with her and philanthropist David Rubenstein in New York City was also canceled.

The reason her absence is so monumental is that if her health has compromised her ability to do her job as a member of the highest court in the United States, her removal will give President Trump his third justice nomination of his first term. This would be an apocalypse to the liberal Democrats, who would be faced with the most conservative Supreme Court in modern history for decades to come. If you thought the Kavanaugh nomination was rough, imagine if Democrats doubled their efforts the third time around.

Could this be why Nancy Pelosi is so defiantly postponing the president's State of the Union address – because it might reveal to the world an empty seat where RBG is supposed to be? Although the justice didn't attend, in protest, President Trump's first State of the Union in 2018 and Supreme Court justice attendance is by no means required, it would be terrible optics as the nation wonders where and how she is.

Some left-leaning voices have condemned the calls for proof that Ruth Bader Ginsburg is still capable of performing her duties as justice. In a display of hypocrisy that is now too common, here is an article from CNN demanding the same confirmation after First Lady Melania Trump avoided the public for 19 days after a minor operation.

One wishes Justice Ginsburg a speedy recovery and a healthy future, with the sincere hope that she can make it to the president's State of the Union address next week.

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Old 01-30-2019, 10:44 AM   #91
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Like his politics or not, that man deserves respect... I guarantee you he did more for this nation in one year back in the day, than you will in your entire life

Same goes for myself
No, he doesn't deserve my respect. No one who talks about my family or my heritage in the manner he does deserves any respect. I don't give a **** what he did. Respect is given on a personal level and his politics are disrespectful on a personal level.

I don't give respect because someone is older. I learned a long time ago that being older doesn't mean shit.

And whatever he may have done in the military, he sure as **** didn't do it for me or anyone like me.

So naaah, don't give me that crap.
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Old 01-30-2019, 10:48 AM   #92
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Sure. As long as she's alive, I don't think it's hard to believe the entire court could be willing to stay quiet (although I don't know why the whole court would have to be fully informed). I don't think they'd do it (for long) if she were to die, but as long as there's a reasonable chance of recovery, why not?

I assume she was conscious enough to cast a vote, but that doesn't mean she's out of the woods or anywhere near fully recovered. You can be pretty sick and still manage a nod.

As long as we don't see her, I'm open minded about her condition.
That's a far cry from, "She's dead and the dems are hiding it", which is what we're discussing.

Poor condition? Most likely. The question is whether she's getting worse or better.
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Old 01-30-2019, 10:54 AM   #93
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Ok, that's fair. I think you're too dismissive of the possibility of coverup even if she were dead though.
How long would the dems have to keep that charade up to avoid another Trump SCOTUS nomination? In order to do something this drastic there has to be an end game.

How long do you think it would take for the Trump administration to leak her death? You don't think they're anxiously awaiting her obits? You think his administration isn't all over this?

You think the other justices, especially the conservatives, aren't watching this development closely?

I mean....really?

And all for what? To delay the inevitable? Or you think they can string along a 2 year Weekend at Bernies?

I'm surprised you'd even entertain the idea.
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Old 01-30-2019, 10:54 AM   #94
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SCJ not being active or even fit for duty is nothing new. Look into OWH and others. Rehnquist was an addict and was committed. Hell, one justice's law clerks and another justice even decided his votes for him while he was incapacitated.
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I suspect the right's over indulgence in being PC is, again, getting in their way. As is the Chief Justice's sense of decorum.
Or maybe just a sense of decency to let an old, ailing woman recover?

Is that too much to ask? Or do we have to subject her to satisfy yet another loony conspiracy theory.

You can all relax. I can assure you all that the Trump administration and every Republican in government is watching this situation very closely.
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Old 01-30-2019, 11:01 AM   #96
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No, he doesn't deserve my respect. No one who talks about my family or my heritage in the manner he does deserves any respect. I don't give a **** what he did. Respect is given on a personal level and his politics are disrespectful on a personal level.

I don't give respect because someone is older. I learned a long time ago that being older doesn't mean shit.

And whatever he may have done in the military, he sure as **** didn't do it for me or anyone like me.

So naaah, don't give me that crap.

Aww....I don't need, nor do I want your respect. Trust me when I tell you this - I do NOT respect you. So, looks as though we are even.
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How long would the dems have to keep that charade up to avoid another Trump SCOTUS nomination? In order to do something this drastic there has to be an end game.

How long do you think it would take for the Trump administration to leak her death? You don't think they're anxiously awaiting her obits? You think his administration isn't all over this?

You think the other justices, especially the conservatives, aren't watching this development closely?

I mean....really?

And all for what? To delay the inevitable? Or you think they can string along a 2 year Weekend at Bernies?

I'm surprised you'd even entertain the idea.
I entertain these ideas so that people who don't have adequate imagination don't have to.

The end game could be as simple as having a little time to prepare for the upcoming political battle before making her death public.

I don't think the WH has to be in on it. The WH has no right to know RBG's status.

I don't think the entire SCOTUS has to be in on it either. Maybe the Chief Justice. Maybe not even him.

No, I don't think they can string it along for 2 years.

My point isn't that a conspiracy to lie to the public about RBG's condition is taking place. It's that such a conspiracy isn't like so many conspiracies that would require lots and lots of people to keep quiet (which was the point I originally responded to). This one would only require a close inner circle. At least in the first few weeks or months.
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huh, I'd laugh but some of you actually believe this. What level of brainwashing does there need to be for you to have developed such a level of distrust that you believe the most outlandish of conspiracy theories or at least look at some of these things as plausible? I can see them waiting a couple days to make an announcement if they passed but people are acting like waiting out Trump for 2 years after someone died is a realistic possibility. Just unreal.
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huh, I'd laugh but some of you actually believe this. What level of brainwashing does there need to be for you to have developed such a level of distrust that you believe the most outlandish of conspiracy theories or at least look at some of these things as plausible? I can see them waiting a couple days to make an announcement if they passed but people are acting like waiting out Trump for 2 years after someone died is a realistic possibility. Just unreal.
We have a lot of people who still think Trump was in cahoots with the Russians to hack emails and steal an election.
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I entertain these ideas so that people who don't have adequate imagination don't have to.

The end game could be as simple as having a little time to prepare for the upcoming political battle before making her death public.

I don't think the WH has to be in on it. The WH has no right to know RBG's status.

I don't think the entire SCOTUS has to be in on it either. Maybe the Chief Justice. Maybe not even him.

No, I don't think they can string it along for 2 years.

My point isn't that a conspiracy to lie to the public about RBG's condition is taking place. It's that such a conspiracy isn't like so many conspiracies that would require lots and lots of people to keep quiet (which was the point I originally responded to). This one would only require a close inner circle. At least in the first few weeks or months.

There is no "conspiracy" to hide her death (IF she has died) - My guess is that it is little more than a privacy issue (for her family) and little else. The problem is that at her age - it might be anyone's guess. Couple that with the severity of her surgery - and it's not hard to imagine that she "may" have passed.
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We have a lot of people who still think Trump was in cahoots with the Russians to hack emails and steal an election.

Indeed.
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There is no "conspiracy" to hide her death (IF she has died) - My guess is that it is little more than a privacy issue (for her family) and little else. The problem is that at her age - it might be anyone's guess. Couple that with the severity of her surgery - and it's not hard to imagine that she "may" have passed.
I agree. I don't think she's dead, but I doubt if she is able to return anytime soon. Those on the left that think this is overblown and folks shouldn't be at least questioning her status are very hypocritical. If this was a "conservative" justice with a Dem POTUS, it would be leading CNN every hour until their was some type of conclusion on their condition and status.
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Aww....I don't need, nor do I want your respect. Trust me when I tell you this - I do NOT respect you. So, looks as though we are even.
Yeah no shit.

That was never in question. I was talking to easy. You're a piece of shit who doesn't deserve ANY respect.

You're senile and worship the era of Jim Crow laws. No ****s given what you think.
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I agree. I don't think she's dead, but I doubt if she is able to return anytime soon. Those on the left that think this is overblown and folks shouldn't be at least questioning her status are very hypocritical. If this was a "conservative" justice with a Dem POTUS, it would be leading CNN every hour until their was some type of conclusion on their condition and status.


Of that I have no doubt.
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We have a lot of people who still think Trump was in cahoots with the Russians to hack emails and steal an election.
When you have emails or other proof supporting that people around RBG are possilbly in on something, then we can talk. Until then, there's no comparison.
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