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Old 02-11-2019, 10:08 AM  
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“First Man”: Finally! A movie glorifying white males

Indescribable movie. Hard to put into a single message post. It’s remarkable seeing a pro-white male message from Hollyweird. It’s extremely patriotic too. I can’t see the YouTube embed feature since I don’t have an account but here’s the 3-min launch scene of Apollo 11, sending Neil into human history.

https://youtu.be/9LzDdfcNsXo



Did you know polls showed black America opposed the space program? Did you know libshits went down to Canaveral to protest the “injustices” of the NASA budgets? And a month later cried and moaned about it even at Woodstock too?
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Old 02-11-2019, 02:07 PM   #46
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I doubt I heard about it at the time. I was too young.

But I have heard it said many times over the years, "we should be spending the money here on Earth" instead of the space program, or words to that effect, often by black public figures.
Fair enough. I believe you. I’m positive you’re in the minority tho. As they say “Success has many fathers but failure is an orphan”. Historically those loud opposition voices scurried for cover when Neil stopped on. And, in fact, most blacks were in that group.
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Old 02-11-2019, 02:08 PM   #47
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Do you agree with PB that presenting that historical fact makes this movie some sort of breakthrough?
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I have heard it said many times over the years, "we should be spending the money here on Earth" instead of the space program, or words to that effect, often by black public figures.
I do think it important to keep perspective in order to see that rosy prognostications of the present aren't necessarily philosophically consistent with the complaints and critiques of yesterday or yesteryear.

It's part of why explaining 'what's so stupid' about the likes of AOC is so tedious and broad that some think it doesn't exist. She wants to co-opt the federal nationalist progressive activist energy and enthusiasm to enact her current day dreams of authoritarian mobilization for a perceived existential threat, while ignoring the complaints against bigotry, governmental intrusion, waste, corruption, and failure that are part and parcel of putting so much power in centralized hands.
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Old 02-11-2019, 02:10 PM   #48
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Fair enough. I believe you. I’m positive you’re in the minority tho. As they say “Success has many fathers but failure is an orphan”. Historically those loud opposition voices scurried for cover when Neil stopped on. And, in fact, most blacks were in that group.
I don't doubt it. It was a big deal.

I honestly don't remember Apollo 11 specifically. I was 7 at the time.

I do recall a number of times later on when teachers would wheel a TV into the classroom so we could watch splash downs.
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Old 02-11-2019, 02:16 PM   #49
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I do think it important to keep perspective in order to see that rosy prognostications of the present aren't necessarily philosophically consistent with the complaints and critiques of yesterday or yesteryear.
Good point.

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It's part of why explaining 'what's so stupid' about the likes of AOC is so tedious and broad that some think it doesn't exist. She wants to co-opt the federal nationalist progressive activist energy and enthusiasm to enact her current day dreams of authoritarian mobilization for a perceived existential threat, while ignoring the complaints against bigotry, governmental intrusion, waste, corruption, and failure that are part and parcel of putting so much power in centralized hands.
She is a very odd phenomenon. All the spot lights are on her for apparently no good reason (other than ratings and clicks, I suppose.)

I wish I could look ten years into the future and see where she is at that point. Hopefully she's just a fad that will fade quickly.
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Old 02-11-2019, 02:30 PM   #50
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I don't doubt it. It was a big deal.

I honestly don't remember Apollo 11 specifically. I was 7 at the time.

I do recall a number of times later on when teachers would wheel a TV into the classroom so we could watch splash downs.
I was -7 at the time. Sorta like “t-minus” on the countdown, until my parents met.


Black Americans at the time opposed the Apollo mission for one very obvious and fundamental reason. And it wasn’t money.
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Old 02-11-2019, 02:32 PM   #51
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I was -7 at the time. Sorta like “t-minus” on the countdown, until my parents met.


Black Americans at the time opposed the Apollo mission for one very obvious and fundamental reason. And it wasn’t money.
Ok, I'll bite. What was it?
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Old 02-11-2019, 02:32 PM   #52
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I was -7 at the time. Sorta like “t-minus” on the countdown, until my parents met.


Black Americans at the time opposed the Apollo mission for one very obvious and fundamental reason. And it wasn’t money.
What was it? I assumed you were saying it was about where the budget should be spent.
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Old 02-11-2019, 02:33 PM   #53
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All the spot lights are on her for apparently no good reason (other than ratings and clicks, I suppose.)
Have you ever given serious thought as to why that's happened?
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Old 02-11-2019, 02:40 PM   #54
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Ok, I'll bite. What was it?
What do you think it was?

I’m not being coy. Why do you think black America didn’t like the space program. Truthfully.
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Old 02-11-2019, 02:46 PM   #55
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What do you think it was?

I’m not being coy. Why do you think black America didn’t like the space program. Truthfully.
I've never heard any reason other than the cost, and that the money would be better spent elsewhere.

Not saying there is no other reason, just that I have never heard it.

You want me to guess?

There weren't any black astronauts at the time?

Maybe they were generally unhappy about various things that effect them, like black kids getting drafted and sent to Vietnam, the civil rights struggle, etc.

Maybe they didn't want a big national celebration, when they felt, from their perspective, the house was on fire?

Just guessing.
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Have you ever given serious thought as to why that's happened?
Serious thought? No.

She's the youngest woman elected to Congress, so that's sort of a record. She's attractive, a minority, managed to primary a guy who probably should not have been vulnerable (not so sure about this).

Mainly, we live in the visual age. She plays well to the camera.
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I've never heard any reason other than the cost, and that the money would be better spent elsewhere.

Not saying there is no other reason, just that I have never heard it.

You want me to guess?

There weren't any black astronauts at the time?

Maybe they were generally unhappy about various things that effect them, like black kids getting drafted and sent to Vietnam, the civil rights struggle, etc.

Maybe they didn't want a big national celebration, when they felt, from their perspective, the house was on fire?

Just guessing.

See, that wasn’t hard. It was a white achievement, legislated by white politicians,paid for by white tax dollars, created by white scientists and manned by white astronauts. They didn’t feel part of it. Had 1/3 members in that cockpit been black, there’s no protesting.
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See, that wasn’t hard. It was a white achievement, legislated by white politicians,paid for by white tax dollars, created by white scientists and manned by white astronauts. They didn’t feel part of it. Had 1/3 members in that cockpit been black, there’s no protesting.
Was that (reason) part of the movie?
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Was that (reason) part of the movie?
You should see the movie. It’s going to be diff for everyone who sees it. My interp is prob uncommon. I watched it 4x this weekend. It’s an astounding film.

Of course, another may see it and say “meh”
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I'm starting to get the impression that PB just found out about this. It's been pretty well documented in movies, documentaries, etc. HBO had a great multi-part series a few years ago.

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