Home Discord Chat
Go Back   ChiefsPlanet > Nzoner's Game Room

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-25-2013, 05:27 PM  
BigRedChief BigRedChief is offline
Has a particular set of skills
 
BigRedChief's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: On the water
Casino cash: $3449627
VARSITY
***OFFICIAL*** 2013 STL Cardinals Thread

From Bernie's column:

People have asked me why we’re not more emotional,” Matheny said in his office after Sunday’s game. “They say that we look subdued, always intense. That our actions are methodical, robotic at times. That’s what got us here. This isn’t the time to change it.”

It’s hard to argue with the manager’s assessment. The Cardinals finished with 97 victories, most by a Cards team since 2005, and tied with Boston for No. 1 in the majors this year.


Their 54-27 showing at Busch Stadium matches the 1985 team for the best single-season home winning percentage (.667) by the Cardinals since 1944.

A postseason theme has emerged, and it echoes the mantra that surfaced before the start of 2013: remember the fall of 2012. Remember falling to San Francisco in the NLCS.


The Cardinals’ veterans still haven’t forgotten. They still aren’t over it. It’s why Matheny resists GM John Mozeliak’s urgings to smile and put on a happier face.


Here's the most impressive aspect of the Cardinals' division championship: they prevailed over two other outstanding teams, Pittsburgh and Cincinnati.



The 97-win Cardinals were better this year (regular season) than they were in 2011, when they won 90 games, and 2012, when they won 88.
Here are a few numbers that help put the Cardinals' Central title and No. 1 NL seed in perspective:



* Since MLB switched to a three-division format in each league in 1994, this was only the sixth time that a division had three 90-plus win teams. St. Louis won 97, Pittsburgh 94, and Cincinnati 90.
* Since the format change, this was only the second time that an NL division had three 90-win teams. In 2002 the NL West had Arizona (98 wins), San Francisco (95) and Los Angeles (92).
* The 2013 Cardinals faced more esteemed and difficult competition at the top of the division than any of the division-winning teams managed by Tony La Russa.

The Pirates were hardly pushovers; the Cardinals had to work like mad and kick in with a strong finish to put the division away, and didn't clinch until Game No. 160.



The Cardinals went 9-10 against Pittsburgh this season and were 11-8 vs. Cincinnati.


The Cardinals won only three of 10 games at PNC Park in Pittsburgh and split the 10 games at Cincinnati. The Cardinals were 6-3 against both teams at Busch Stadium.


The Cardinals (1st), Pirates (3rd) and Reds (5th) ranked among the top five in wins in the NL. The three teams were among the top 11 in wins in MLB. All three teams finished in the top five in the majors for best overall ERA, and each were in the top five MLB for best starting-pitching ERA.


The original purpose to this piece was to point out that the Cardinals managed to finish with the league's best record while competing in a division that had three 90-win teams for only the second time in the last 19 years of National League baseball.



The Cardinals really earned this.
Thanks for reading ...
— Bernie

Last edited by BigRedChief; 10-02-2013 at 08:16 PM..
Posts: 78,712
BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.
   
Old 06-10-2013, 03:13 PM   #1816
duncan_idaho duncan_idaho is offline
M-I-Z-Z-O-U
 
duncan_idaho's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Kansas City
Casino cash: $2060308
Quote:
Originally Posted by frazod View Post
At least we have the Cardinals. There is no respite for the poor Chiefs/Royals/Mizzou bastards.
This is my life, and it sucks.

My only consolation is trying to know more about sports than most other guys. It's probably why I put so much focus into fantasy baseball.

I don't HATE the Cardinals, though (Some fans? Sure. You have a lot of douchy t-shirt followers, just like any good team). This board actually has my favorite collection of Cardinals fans on the interwebs. Good balance of knowledge, fandom and objectivity.
__________________
"You gotta love livin', cause dying is a pain in the ass."
---- Sinatra
Posts: 20,969
duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.
   
Old 06-10-2013, 03:46 PM   #1817
BigRedChief BigRedChief is offline
Has a particular set of skills
 
BigRedChief's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: On the water
Casino cash: $3449627
VARSITY
Quote:
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho View Post
Good balance of knowledge, fandom and objectivity.
Your welcome!





















/I kid
__________________
Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering.
-YODA
Posts: 78,712
BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.
   
Old 06-10-2013, 03:50 PM   #1818
ChiefsCountry ChiefsCountry is offline
The Insider
 
ChiefsCountry's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Lake of the Ozarks
Casino cash: $2628752
Hypothetically you guys need to trade for a closer, who you would rather have - Greg Holland or Jim Johnson?
Posts: 49,361
ChiefsCountry is obviously part of the inner Circle.ChiefsCountry is obviously part of the inner Circle.ChiefsCountry is obviously part of the inner Circle.ChiefsCountry is obviously part of the inner Circle.ChiefsCountry is obviously part of the inner Circle.ChiefsCountry is obviously part of the inner Circle.ChiefsCountry is obviously part of the inner Circle.ChiefsCountry is obviously part of the inner Circle.ChiefsCountry is obviously part of the inner Circle.ChiefsCountry is obviously part of the inner Circle.ChiefsCountry is obviously part of the inner Circle.
   
Old 06-10-2013, 03:51 PM   #1819
Pepe Silvia Pepe Silvia is offline
MVP
 
Pepe Silvia's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2012
Casino cash: $2214664
Obviously you guys know why I'm a Mizzou and Cardinals fan, but I have a good explanation for the Packers, one that was my grandfathers fav team and two St.Louis didn't have a football team when I first started getting into sports, I'm only 29. The Packers sucked serious balls when I first started watching them so no I'm not a bandwagoner.
Posts: 16,410
Pepe Silvia has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.Pepe Silvia has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.Pepe Silvia has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.Pepe Silvia has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.Pepe Silvia has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.Pepe Silvia has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.Pepe Silvia has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.Pepe Silvia has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.Pepe Silvia has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.Pepe Silvia has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.Pepe Silvia has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.
   
Old 06-10-2013, 03:52 PM   #1820
Mi_chief_fan Mi_chief_fan is offline
There was an idea.....
 
Mi_chief_fan's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Murfreesboro,TN
Casino cash: $9942966
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry View Post
Hypothetically you guys need to trade for a closer, who you would rather have - Greg Holland or Jim Johnson?
Drew Storen
__________________
Bandwagon Predators Fan!
Posts: 3,517
Mi_chief_fan has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.Mi_chief_fan has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.Mi_chief_fan has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.Mi_chief_fan has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.Mi_chief_fan has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.Mi_chief_fan has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.Mi_chief_fan has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.Mi_chief_fan has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.Mi_chief_fan has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.Mi_chief_fan has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.Mi_chief_fan has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.
   
Old 06-10-2013, 03:54 PM   #1821
ChiefsCountry ChiefsCountry is offline
The Insider
 
ChiefsCountry's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Lake of the Ozarks
Casino cash: $2628752
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mi_chief_fan View Post
Drew Storen
Wrong answer. We have debate with Orioles troll, need to bring in the third party to answer it for us.
Posts: 49,361
ChiefsCountry is obviously part of the inner Circle.ChiefsCountry is obviously part of the inner Circle.ChiefsCountry is obviously part of the inner Circle.ChiefsCountry is obviously part of the inner Circle.ChiefsCountry is obviously part of the inner Circle.ChiefsCountry is obviously part of the inner Circle.ChiefsCountry is obviously part of the inner Circle.ChiefsCountry is obviously part of the inner Circle.ChiefsCountry is obviously part of the inner Circle.ChiefsCountry is obviously part of the inner Circle.ChiefsCountry is obviously part of the inner Circle.
   
Old 06-10-2013, 03:55 PM   #1822
'Hamas' Jenkins 'Hamas' Jenkins is offline
Now you've pissed me off!
 
'Hamas' Jenkins's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2006
Casino cash: $8129572
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry View Post
Hypothetically you guys need to trade for a closer, who you would rather have - Greg Holland or Jim Johnson?
How the **** is this even a debate? Holland. Johnson is Ryan Franklin.


Holland's FIP is 40% of Johnson's and his K rate is over twice as high. That's just asinine.
__________________
"When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
Posts: 74,786
'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.
   
Old 06-10-2013, 03:56 PM   #1823
duncan_idaho duncan_idaho is offline
M-I-Z-Z-O-U
 
duncan_idaho's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Kansas City
Casino cash: $2060308
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry View Post
Hypothetically you guys need to trade for a closer, who you would rather have - Greg Holland or Jim Johnson?
Here's a reference for you guys that might be helpful in making a decision.
__________________
"You gotta love livin', cause dying is a pain in the ass."
---- Sinatra
Posts: 20,969
duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.
   
Old 06-10-2013, 03:57 PM   #1824
DJ's left nut DJ's left nut is offline
Sauntering Vaguely Downwards
 
DJ's left nut's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Columbia, Mo
Casino cash: $3299099
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry View Post
Hypothetically you guys need to trade for a closer, who you would rather have - Greg Holland or Jim Johnson?
Are you sure you're not ChiefsandO's Fan?

Holland in a walk.

EDIT: Oh...I see that this was actually in response to ChiefsandO's Fan.

My opinion on Orioles fans is stated a few times here already - they're just cute. It's like they're all 8 year olds anytime the Orioles do something even remotely decent.

"Our closer is the bestest closer in the whole world and we would trade him for anything!"

Then they'll try to offer the 5 worst players on their roster for your best player "Because 5 is more than 1, so 5 is better".

Orioles fans....they're just so dang adorable.
__________________
"If there's a god, he's laughing at us.....and our football team..."

"When you look at something through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."

Last edited by DJ's left nut; 06-10-2013 at 04:04 PM..
Posts: 59,678
DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.
   
Old 06-10-2013, 03:57 PM   #1825
Pepe Silvia Pepe Silvia is offline
MVP
 
Pepe Silvia's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2012
Casino cash: $2214664
Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins View Post
How the **** is this even a debate? Holland. Johnson is Ryan Franklin.
I'd have to go with Holland too, Jim Johnson is one of those flash in the pan closers to me, I'd say hes more John Rocker without the racist comments.
Posts: 16,410
Pepe Silvia has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.Pepe Silvia has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.Pepe Silvia has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.Pepe Silvia has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.Pepe Silvia has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.Pepe Silvia has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.Pepe Silvia has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.Pepe Silvia has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.Pepe Silvia has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.Pepe Silvia has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.Pepe Silvia has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.
   
Old 06-10-2013, 04:01 PM   #1826
duncan_idaho duncan_idaho is offline
M-I-Z-Z-O-U
 
duncan_idaho's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Kansas City
Casino cash: $2060308
Side note:

Chiefs and Os would like to know what the Cardinals think of the following trade offer that helps both teams...

Jon Schoop
Jair Jurrjens
Jake Arrieta
Xavier Avery

for Matt Holliday and Kolten Wong

Sure, Matt Holliday is an established slugger, but he hasn't faced the pitching in the best division in baseball, the AL East, so he's not as good as he seems. The Cardinals don't have room for Wong, who is blockd by Carpenter and Freese. Plus, the Cards get a top 100 prospect and two upside pitchers back. And Xavier Avery has good speed and surprising pop.
__________________
"You gotta love livin', cause dying is a pain in the ass."
---- Sinatra
Posts: 20,969
duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.
   
Old 06-10-2013, 04:03 PM   #1827
duncan_idaho duncan_idaho is offline
M-I-Z-Z-O-U
 
duncan_idaho's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Kansas City
Casino cash: $2060308
Quote:
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut View Post
Are you sure you're not ChiefsandO's Fan?

Holland in a walk.
CandO got pissy when we laughed at him for listing Jim Johnson as part of an "elite" group that is better than Greg Holland.

Hilarity (and verbal evisceration) ensued, but I guess he wants some more.
__________________
"You gotta love livin', cause dying is a pain in the ass."
---- Sinatra
Posts: 20,969
duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.
   
Old 06-10-2013, 04:04 PM   #1828
'Hamas' Jenkins 'Hamas' Jenkins is offline
Now you've pissed me off!
 
'Hamas' Jenkins's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2006
Casino cash: $8129572
Quote:
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho View Post
Side note:

Chiefs and Os would like to know what the Cardinals think of the following trade offer that helps both teams...

Jon Schoop
Jair Jurrjens
Jake Arrieta
Xavier Avery

for Matt Holliday and Kolten Wong

Sure, Matt Holliday is an established slugger, but he hasn't faced the pitching in the best division in baseball, the AL East, so he's not as good as he seems.
He can throat **** himself to death with Buck Schowalter's cock
__________________
"When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
Posts: 74,786
'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.
   
Old 06-10-2013, 04:07 PM   #1829
DJ's left nut DJ's left nut is offline
Sauntering Vaguely Downwards
 
DJ's left nut's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Columbia, Mo
Casino cash: $3299099
Quote:
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho View Post
CandO got pissy when we laughed at him for listing Jim Johnson as part of an "elite" group that is better than Greg Holland.

Hilarity (and verbal evisceration) ensued, but I guess he wants some more.
Yeah, I saw what you were referencing and amended my post accordingly.

It's the same damn thing every single time with those idiots. Every trade offer is the same (as you noted in your later post) and every argument is identical.

It's simply how they breed them in Oriole-land.
__________________
"If there's a god, he's laughing at us.....and our football team..."

"When you look at something through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."
Posts: 59,678
DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.
   
Old 06-10-2013, 04:11 PM   #1830
Mi_chief_fan Mi_chief_fan is offline
There was an idea.....
 
Mi_chief_fan's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Murfreesboro,TN
Casino cash: $9942966
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry View Post
Wrong answer. We have debate with Orioles troll, need to bring in the third party to answer it for us.
Trevor Rosenthal is better than either. Damn sure wouldn't trade him for either of those 2.
__________________
Bandwagon Predators Fan!
Posts: 3,517
Mi_chief_fan has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.Mi_chief_fan has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.Mi_chief_fan has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.Mi_chief_fan has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.Mi_chief_fan has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.Mi_chief_fan has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.Mi_chief_fan has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.Mi_chief_fan has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.Mi_chief_fan has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.Mi_chief_fan has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.Mi_chief_fan has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.
   
Closed Thread

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 06:06 AM.


This is a test for a client's site.
Fort Worth Texas Process Servers
Covering Arlington, Fort Worth, Grand Prairie and surrounding communities.
Tarrant County, Texas and Johnson County, Texas.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.