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Old 12-23-2018, 11:00 PM  
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Brett Veach Sucks

Veachs defensive acquisitions since hes been GM: Revis (washed), Breeland Speaks (fat and slow) Derrick nnadi(ok), Darien Odaniel (part time player), Armani Watts (injured just like in college), Tremon Smith (sucks), Anthony Hitchens (most overpaid player in the league) Ragland who we gave a draft pick for knee literally swelled flying to camp, Scandrick didn't even play tonight.


1.5 years not 1 impact player on defense
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Old 12-23-2018, 11:38 PM   #46
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Yep, Bobby is just a scape goat. Its easier to replace one guy (Sutton) then it is to man up and replace a bunch of shitty players. As if getting a new D coordinator will make this D adequate. It wont. Its not like Sutton has just been a complete failure. He has had alot of success in his time here.
All I need to mention is the Colts playoff game four hears ago. But, I’ll also mention that Sutton’s defense in New York sucked and the year after they fired him, they were a top D. I’m not saying we don’t have some sucky players, but in my opinion, it starts with getting rid of Grandpa Bob. He’s always failed.
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Old 12-23-2018, 11:41 PM   #47
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All I need to mention is the Colts playoff game four hears ago. But, I’ll also mention that Sutton’s defense in New York sucked and the year after they fired him, they were a top D. I’m not saying we don’t have some sucky players, but in my opinion, it starts with getting rid of Grandpa Bob. He’s always failed.
Hard to blame Sutty in that game. Flowers got hurt, Houston and Hali got hurt. Chiefs had a 4 td lead Reid kept throwing it.
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Old 12-23-2018, 11:41 PM   #48
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He had the first overall pick in each round.

No shit they were better
Let's not mention it was the worst draft in like a 15 year period for the league.
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Old 12-23-2018, 11:46 PM   #49
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All I need to mention is the Colts playoff game four hears ago. But, I’ll also mention that Sutton’s defense in New York sucked and the year after they fired him, they were a top D. I’m not saying we don’t have some sucky players, but in my opinion, it starts with getting rid of Grandpa Bob. He’s always failed.
I agree Bobby needs to go, but some people act like evwrything is his fault and that this D would be good with a different coordonator
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Old 12-23-2018, 11:47 PM   #50
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Hard to blame Sutty in that game. Flowers got hurt, Houston and Hali got hurt. Chiefs had a 4 td lead Reid kept throwing it.
You’re right, we had some major injuries. But, the point is, any D-Coordinator worth his salt should have been able to find a way to hold a 28 point lead. He has a history of letting offenses walk all over him. Whether we need a massive shot of defensive talent or not, I just don’t understand how anyone can defend him at this point.
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Old 12-23-2018, 11:48 PM   #51
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Eddie Jackson or Donte Jackson and signed Prince.
Eddie Jackson is quite good, RIP that pick
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Old 12-23-2018, 11:53 PM   #52
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Eddie Jackson is quite good, RIP that pick
Seattle's punter is a future HOFr idk how much we would have saved drafting him and letting Culquitt go. Anyway didnt we use that pick to trade up for fat ass?
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Old 12-23-2018, 11:54 PM   #53
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I agree Bobby needs to go, but some people act like evwrything is his fault and that this D would be good with a different coordonator
Yeah, some of the issues definitely fall on the talent. I just think it needs to start with him. If for nothing else but a change in philosophy.
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Old 12-24-2018, 12:37 PM   #54
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Boy is Billay one dumb sonofabitch

How about Dorsey’s first pick getting his asshole torn to shreds last night? How about his draft picks Steven Nelson and Eric Murray being a disaster? How about his handpicked safety Ron Parker or Daniel Sorenson? How they looking Billay? Oh and how is Tanoh doing? What about his character evaluations for Peters and Hunt?

This mother****er drafted KeiVarae Russell and cut him 3 months later.

JFC you will do anything to suck Dorsey’s dick won’t you?

“Veach can’t fix ILB or secondary.” Please tell me what the **** Dorsey did to fix it before he got canned?

Enough of this draft bullshit. The 2016 draft was supposed to help this secondary and ALL of them sucked.
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Old 12-24-2018, 12:41 PM   #55
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Hitchens makes Bobby Wagner money and it was night and day watching those two play last night. Wagner does literally everything for the Seahawks.

Hitchens and Berry have the two worst contracts in football and its not close.
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Old 12-24-2018, 12:50 PM   #56
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Dorsey is a Boss. No doubt for me. A top GM in this league.

I will give Veach two more offseasons but yeah I cannot say I am impressed so far but I think he is a good one too.

He has to hit it out of the park this offseason. No excuses.
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Boy is Billay one dumb sonofabitch

How about Dorsey’s first pick getting his asshole torn to shreds last night? How about his draft picks Steven Nelson and Eric Murray being a disaster? How about his handpicked safety Ron Parker or Daniel Sorenson? How they looking Billay? Oh and how is Tanoh doing? What about his character evaluations for Peters and Hunt?

This mother****er drafted KeiVarae Russell and cut him 3 months later.

JFC you will do anything to suck Dorsey’s dick won’t you?

“Veach can’t fix ILB or secondary.” Please tell me what the **** Dorsey did to fix it before he got canned?

Enough of this draft bullshit. The 2016 draft was supposed to help this secondary and ALL of them sucked.
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Old 12-24-2018, 12:56 PM   #58
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Dorsey is a Boss. No doubt for me. A top GM in this league.

I will give Veach two more offseasons but yeah I cannot say I am impressed so far but I think he is a good one too.

He has to hit it out of the park this offseason. No excuses.
It’s still too early to give a final grade to Veach, even with how frustrating he’s been so far.

He’s had one draft and free agency. At this point in Dorsey’s tenure, Kelce hadn’t played a down, Fisher was enemy numero uno and everyone declared his first offseason a disaster.

I agree this Spring needs to be good. It will be his defining offseason IMO.
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Old 12-24-2018, 01:03 PM   #59
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It’s still too early to give a final grade to Veach, even with how frustrating he’s been so far.

He’s had one draft and free agency. At this point in Dorsey’s tenure, Kelce hadn’t played and down, Fisher was enemy numero uno and everyone declared his first offseason a disaster.
Yea but there was some other things you are leaving out that helped buoye those decisions that werent working out in Dorseys first season.

He also had the infamous scrap heap/dumpster dive waiver wire 7. Jaye Howard, Ron Parker and dem boys. He also signed a bunch of crafty vets cheap like Hussain Abdullah that immediately helped turn this franchise around. He hit on depth, scrap heap finds and cheap vets which helped cover his Fisher and Kelce issues.

That is not happening anymore. They arent hitting on scrap heap finds, they arent getting scrappy cheap vets that outperform their cheap prove it deal. They are overpaying FAs, making big splashes for luxory items, bringing back former guys who they cut/released who are toast (Parker,Allen,West, etc). They are basically doing the opposite ontop of their major issues. So theres nothing good you can even say now except "Mahomes"

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I'm not convinced that veach had much choice with Sutton. Or that each of these D players couldn't shine in a new scheme. But yeah... So far, very underwhelming. Meanwhile Dorsey is probably in line for exec of the year. And it's not just because he had the #1 pick. He absolutely crushed the draft. Easily the most weeks of any team with a rookie of the week winner.
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