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Old 09-18-2018, 09:12 AM  
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Keith Ellison domestic violence accuser says Democratic party doesn't believe her sto

Will Ellison get Frankened over this as a sacrifice to the Kavanaugh obstruction?

The woman who accused Minnesota Democratic Rep. Keith Ellison of domestic abuse said on Monday that Democrats don’t believe her story and threatened to isolate her over the allegations.

Karen Monahan, a former girlfriend, came forward last month alleging that Ellison sent her threatening text messages and once screamed obscenities at her as he dragged her off a bed by her feet.

Ellison has denied the accusations, saying he “never behaved this way.” He did acknowledge he was in a relationship with the woman.

The allegations didn’t lead to any immediate action against the congressman, except for the announcement that the Democratic National Committee (DNC) would review the accusations. He went on to win the Democratic primary election for Minnesota attorney general.

Monahan slammed the Democratic Party for its response to her allegations when compared to its treatment of Christine Blasey Ford. Ford has accused Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh of attempting to force himself onto her during at a high school party nearly four decades ago, prompting prominent Democrats to get behind Ford’s allegations.

“No, they don't,” Monahan tweeted in response to a question whether the party believes women’s stories. “I've been smeared, threatened, isolated from my own party. I provided medical records from 2017, stating on two different Dr. Visits, I told them about the abuse and who did it. My therapist released records stating I have been dealing and healing from the abuse.”

She added: “Four people, including my supervisor at the time, stated that I came to them after and shared the exact story I shared publicly, I shared multiple text between me and Keith, where I discuss the abuse with him and much more. As I said before, I knew I wouldn't be believed.”

Her comment came after another user pointed to comments made by Peter Daou, a Democratic strategist and former advisor to Hillary Clinton and John Kerry, who wrote in a tweet that the Kavanaugh accuser will be “attacked, smeared, and demonized” and that people must “believe women.”

Many other Democrats and progressives – who stayed silent when the accusations against Ellison emerged – came out in support of Ford, including Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders and Tom Perez, chairman of the DNC, who urged to investigate the claims and Kavanaugh.

Monahan went to reiterate that her story has nothing to do with politics. “I have nothing to prove to anyone, I simply shared my story. People can believe it or not. I don’t need anyone to affirm my humanity, I affirmed it,” she wrote in another tweet.

“The fact that both parties only care if it scores political points is hypocritical,” she added. “Do you think a person who has dealt with any form of abuse by politicians is thinking about politics? No, we & are families are trying to heal.”

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Old 09-26-2018, 10:57 AM   #106
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You know what? When you aspire to the highest court in the land, you subject yourself to having your life publicly put under a microscope. He knew that going in.

Did he know that this shit was going to come out? I would say no. Did he know that if something embarrassing from his past was unearthed, that the entire population of the United States would hear about it? Yes, he knew that. That's the risk you take when you want a seat in government at that level.
Ideally, you guys would put his actual life under the microscope rather than a fictional account of it.
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Old 09-26-2018, 11:20 AM   #107
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You know what? When you aspire to the highest court in the land, you subject yourself to having your life publicly put under a microscope. He knew that going in.

Did he know that this shit was going to come out? I would say no. Did he know that if something embarrassing from his past was unearthed, that the entire population of the United States would hear about it? Yes, he knew that. That's the risk you take when you want a seat in government at that level.
Assuming he didn't do it, how could he know? Let's say, for example, I decide to accuse you of having intercourse with a goat in 1986. Since I assume you didn't do that, how could you know it was gonna come out? You(he) can't be expected to know something somebody else pulled out of thin air.

Not saying he did or didn't do it, but that line of logic doesn't work.
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Old 09-26-2018, 11:22 AM   #108
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Ideally, you guys would put his actual life under the microscope rather than a fictional account of it.
Ok.

So just to be clear, you think this accomplished, PhD university professor made this up out of whole cloth just to derail BK's confirmation. Is that about right? You're convinced she's lying? Not embellishing, but outright lying?
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Ok.

So just to be clear, you think this accomplished, PhD university professor made this up out of whole cloth just to derail BK's confirmation. Is that about right? You're convinced she's lying? Not embellishing, but outright lying?
A PhD is supposed to indicate credibility but a seat on a Federal Court is not?
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Old 09-26-2018, 11:27 AM   #110
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Assuming he didn't do it, how could he know? Let's say, for example, I decide to accuse you of having intercourse with a goat in 1986. Since I assume you didn't do that, how could you know it was gonna come out? You(he) can't be expected to know something somebody else pulled out of thin air.

Not saying he did or didn't do it, but that line of logic doesn't work.
Did you never feel up a girl as a teenager? (Consensually, of course).

Do you think BK never felt up a girl as a teenager?

If you were up for some national office, everybody in the country looking at you, would it really be that difficult to at least allow for the possibility that someone from your past might come out and characterize what happened differently than you remember it?

I'm giving BK the benefit of the doubt in this hypothetical. Even if he is being completely truthful, it's not like this scenario would be beyond his imagination. If it is, I'm not quite sure how he reached the high level that he currently occupies.
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Old 09-26-2018, 11:29 AM   #111
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A PhD is supposed to indicate credibility but a seat on a Federal Court is not?
That certainly gives him credibility.
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Did you never feel up a girl as a teenager? (Consensually, of course).

Do you think BK never felt up a girl as a teenager?

If you were up for some national office, everybody in the country looking at you, would it really be that difficult to at least allow for the possibility that someone from your past might come out and characterize what happened differently than you remember it?

I'm giving BK the benefit of the doubt in this hypothetical. Even if he is being completely truthful, it's not like this scenario would be beyond his imagination. If it is, I'm not quite sure how he reached the high level that he currently occupies.
I'm a bad example. I was a little slut back in my day. I banged anything that would hold still. One might say, in this day and age, I have no political future.

But seriously, sure he should of expected mud to be thrown his direction, but I am saying it is unreasonable to expect somebody to expect a specific act from a specific person if they actually didn't do it, to come their way.
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Ok.

So just to be clear, you think this accomplished, PhD university professor made this up out of whole cloth just to derail BK's confirmation. Is that about right? You're convinced she's lying? Not embellishing, but outright lying?
She had considerable help making it up out of whole cloth just to derail BK’s confirmation, but yes. She’s lying.
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Assuming he didn't do it, how could he know? Let's say, for example, I decide to accuse you of having intercourse with a goat in 1986. Since I assume you didn't do that, how could you know it was gonna come out? You(he) can't be expected to know something somebody else pulled out of thin air.

Not saying he did or didn't do it, but that line of logic doesn't work.
I’d believe the goat.
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I’d believe the goat.
Of course you would.
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Did you never feel up a girl as a teenager? (Consensually, of course).

Do you think BK never felt up a girl as a teenager?

If you were up for some national office, everybody in the country looking at you, would it really be that difficult to at least allow for the possibility that someone from your past might come out and characterize what happened differently than you remember it?

I'm giving BK the benefit of the doubt in this hypothetical. Even if he is being completely truthful, it's not like this scenario would be beyond his imagination. If it is, I'm not quite sure how he reached the high level that he currently occupies.
Why do you keep going back to the Kavanaugh case in the Ellison thread?
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Why do you keep going back to the Kavanaugh case in the Ellison thread?
Pretty sure I did not bring BK into this thread. Responding to other posts on the subject, which were already in the thread.
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Pretty sure I did not bring BK into this thread. Responding to other posts on the subject, which were already in the thread.
If true then fair enough.

Do we have any lib poster here who care to comment on Ellison's multiple assault allegations?

Anyone? Buehler? Anyone?
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If true then fair enough.

Do we have any lib poster here who care to comment on Ellison's multiple assault allegations?

Anyone? Buehler? Anyone?
I have, several times now.
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