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Old 11-08-2018, 08:16 AM  
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Old 11-08-2018, 09:42 PM   #106
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I can just see the idiots in here googling pedophilia a bunch of times to prove they are right and getting placed on some government watch list.


For the record - Pedophilia = Bad!
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Old 11-08-2018, 09:55 PM   #107
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I was weighing-in on RBG's efforts to change the age of consent to "12."

The DSM - and various legal sources cite "generally age 13 and under" in reference to the issue of pedophilia.

You are now not arguing with me - but rather, sources which are used in the body of work known as Crimes Against Children.
I'm not arguing with your sources. You're using an inexact phrase "generally ate 13 and under" as if it's supposed to be an exact time. What's happening is that you're arguing with your own sources because the axe you're trying to grind is making you willfully foolish.

And you were calling RBG pro-pedophilia, rather than taking a more appropriate approach along the lines of considering her someone who's understanding of sufficient age for considering a child to have become pubescent was a year off of where Psys.org would consider a better cutoff.


And **** you for putting me into a position where I've had to defend a woman I despise, for post after post after post.
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Old 11-08-2018, 09:56 PM   #108
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Old 11-08-2018, 09:58 PM   #109
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"RBG is injured" turned into "RBI is pro-pedo!" for no good reason, and I'm trying to get someone to at least grasp simple terminology and meaning.

Hope that helps.
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Old 11-08-2018, 10:01 PM   #110
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"RBG is injured" turned into "RBI is pro-pedo!" for no good reason, and I'm trying to get someone to at least grasp simple terminology and meaning.

Hope that helps.
The thread took a turn.

A very disturbing turn.

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Old 11-08-2018, 10:11 PM   #111
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I'm not arguing with your sources. You're using an inexact phrase "generally ate 13 and under" as if it's supposed to be an exact time. What's happening is that you're arguing with your own sources because the axe you're trying to grind is making you willfully foolish.

And you were calling RBG pro-pedophilia, rather than taking a more appropriate approach along the lines of considering her someone who's understanding of sufficient age for considering a child to have become pubescent was a year off of where Psys.org would consider a better cutoff.


And **** you for putting me into a position where I've had to defend a woman I despise, for post after post after post.

You are arguing against the source:

> "Under the current manual of the DSM (DSM-IV-TR), a diagnosis of pedophilia necessitates that an individual of at least sixteen years of age (and at least five years older than the child involved) meet two requirements.

"The first criterion is "recurrent, intense sexually arousing fantasies, sexual urges, or behaviors involving sexual activity with a prepubescent child or children (generally age 13 years or younger)"

> You are arguing that this definition is wrong - because children generally hit puberty at different ages. I agree that children hit puberty at different ages. No argument there.

> I argued - had RBG had her way by lowering the age of consent to - then pedophiles would 'legally be able to have sex with under-age children.'

> This issue seems to make you frustrated.

> You seem to be arguing that "Once a child achieves puberty - they are fair game for adults to have sex with them.

> Are you OK with the RBG plan to lower the age of consent to 12?
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Old 11-08-2018, 10:49 PM   #112
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I'm not saying she won't, but people that are ardent until the bitter end are pretty few and far between on any issue except family and faith.

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Old 11-08-2018, 10:53 PM   #113
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Old 11-08-2018, 11:03 PM   #114
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You are arguing against the source:

> "Under the current manual of the DSM (DSM-IV-TR), a diagnosis of pedophilia necessitates that an individual of at least sixteen years of age (and at least five years older than the child involved) meet two requirements.

"The first criterion is "recurrent, intense sexually arousing fantasies, sexual urges, or behaviors involving sexual activity with a prepubescent child or children (generally age 13 years or younger)"

> You are arguing that this definition is wrong - because children generally hit puberty at different ages. I agree that children hit puberty at different ages. No argument there.

> I argued - had RBG had her way by lowering the age of consent to - then pedophiles would 'legally be able to have sex with under-age children.'

> This issue seems to make you frustrated.

> You seem to be arguing that "Once a child achieves puberty - they are fair game for adults to have sex with them.

> Are you OK with the RBG plan to lower the age of consent to 12?
Are you even reading what you're posting? I'm not arguing with the source. What I've been saying is right there.

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involving sexual activity with a prepubescent child or children
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(generally age 13 years or younger)
are descriptors/a generalization, not a statement of an absolute, as the word GENERALLY serves to reinforce.

As I said, The key question with regards to actual pedophilia is not age. It's puberty. That's right there in your source. Puberty isn't a date certain happening. It's something that occurs at different ages in different people.
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Old 11-08-2018, 11:11 PM   #115
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Old 11-09-2018, 07:13 AM   #116
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Are you even reading what you're posting? I'm not arguing with the source. What I've been saying is right there.



The following words



are descriptors/a generalization, not a statement of an absolute, as the word GENERALLY serves to reinforce.

As I said, The key question with regards to actual pedophilia is not age. It's puberty. That's right there in your source. Puberty isn't a date certain happening. It's something that occurs at different ages in different people.

Again - Every state has a statutory rape law in some form (Crimes Against Children Laws). The age of consent varies from state to state, but is generally from 16 – 18 years of age.

- Consent of the victim and belief that the victim is of the age of consent are considered immaterial.

- Pedophilia is legally defined as sexual child abuse - any sexual activity with a minor below the age of consent.

- Since the age of consent in the United States which varies from state to state is from 16 to 18, lowering the age of consent to 12 would legalize pedophilia of children age 12 and above.

> That is exactly what Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, recommends in her book (Sex Bias in the U.S. Code) that led to sweeping changes made by the federal government in the name of sex equality - which is what began this mini-debate by bringing attention to her legal views on this matter.

> RBG wrote: "Eliminate the phrase ‘carnal knowledge of any female, not his wife, who has not attained the age of 16 years’ and substitute a federal, sex-neutral definition of the offense . . . . A person is guilty of an offense if he engages in a sexual act with another person, . . . [and] the other person is, in fact, less than 12 years old."


>>> Do you agree with RBG's legal opinion - that the Age of Consent should be changed to age 12?
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Old 11-09-2018, 07:19 AM   #117
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Which is very unfortunate and tragic.

- Of all the laws we debate, protection of children should be at the top of the list.
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Old 11-09-2018, 07:34 AM   #119
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There may be more to her situation:

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