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Old 11-08-2018, 01:20 PM  
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9th Circuit rules President cannot end DACA program

Federal appeals court rules against Trump administration effort to end DACA program

WASHINGTON – A federal appeals court ruled Thursday that President Donald Trump cannot end an Obama administration program that protects undocumented immigrants brought to the United States as children.

A panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit agreed with a federal district judge's decision in January that Trump lacked the authority to eliminate the program – a proposal the president made last year in hopes of prodding Congress to act.

"Plaintiffs are likely to succeed on their claim that the rescission of DACA — at least as justified on this record — is arbitrary, capricious or otherwise not in accordance with law," the three-member panel said.

"In a world where the government can remove only a small percentage of the undocumented noncitizens present in this country in any year," the panel said, DACA lets it "devote much-needed resources to enforcement priorities such as threats to national security, rather than blameless and economically productive young people with clean criminal records."

The decision leaves in place for now the popular Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program known as DACA, which has protected more than 700,000 undocumented immigrants from deportation and enabled them to get work permits.

The court noted it was created because of the "cruelty and wastefulness of deporting productive young people to countries with which they have no ties."

But the Justice Department is likely to appeal the ruling to the Supreme Court, which now has five reliably conservative justices. The high court in February refused to leap-frog the appeals court's review of Judge William Alsup's decision.

Two other federal appeals courts also are reviewing the dispute between the Trump administration and the states, local governments and immigrant rights groups fighting to maintain the program.

The 9th Circuit decision explores more than 100 years of presidential administrations deciding that not every law must be enforced 100% of the time, and that not all people should be punished for every violation.

The opinion cited President Ronald Reagan’s decision to protect relatives of undocumented immigrants who were granted amnesty in 1986 and President Dwight Eisenhower’s decision to protect over 30,000 Hungarian refugees in 1956. It found 19 other examples of large groups of foreigners protected from deportation.

The court even cited the case of John Lennon and Yoko Ono, who were nearly deported due to a marijuana possession charge in Britain but were ultimately allowed to remain in the U.S. because they were not priorities for deportation.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...am/1931643002/
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Old 11-09-2018, 10:50 AM   #16
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I went over to the Federalist Society's website, and they said it's being fast-tracked to the SC.

But therein lies the problem. This should NEVER have been a court mandated decision in the first place. The Constitution could not be more clear on the Presidents ability to handle immigration. Yet the courts continually insinuate themselves, as though they have some "power" to legislate from behind their robes. They do not - they can not and this should NOT be tolerated.
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Old 11-09-2018, 10:50 AM   #17
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This site needs a filter that automatically changes "undocumented" to "illegal".

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Old 11-09-2018, 10:52 AM   #18
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Old 11-09-2018, 10:55 AM   #19
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....And again - this is what's wrong with our country and, will ultimately be the downfall of it. The "courts" overstepping their bounds and not allowing a sitting President to do his Constitutional duty.

This is the fascist left. Hang on - give it another 20 years. This country WILL be unrecognizable. We've all but killed Free Speech - these mass shootings will all but guarantee that the Second Amendment will be gutted beyond recognition and, sooner or later, just as in the former USSR - we will turn most of our "governing" decisions over to courts.

There is a storm coming........and it's coming fast.

And it's entirely caused by 1 thing. It's ok to say it.
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Old 11-09-2018, 11:00 AM   #20
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And it's entirely caused by 1 thing. It's ok to say it.
Changing demographics that are replacing us.
A whole generation who haven't a clue about socialism/communism or fascism because of socialists just say these were not properly implemented. So this generation will vote it in.
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Old 11-09-2018, 11:02 AM   #21
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A whole generation who haven't a clue about socialism/communism or fascism because of socialists just say these were not properly implemented. So this generation will vote it in.
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Old 11-09-2018, 03:41 PM   #22
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Changing demographics that are replacing us.
A whole generation who haven't a clue about socialism/communism or fascism because of socialists just say these were not properly implemented. So this generation will vote it in.


Well, yes....I absolutely agree with your assessment. But the question must be "why"?

When history (and I mean actual HISTORY) isn't taught in schools any longer - rather nothing more than BS opinion by "teachers" that are more concerned with their agendas - and indoctrinating students into fascism - while parents sit at home on their asses and are encouraged to NOT get involved (or allowed) in their children's education - this is what marks the beginning of the end.

What was it Ronald Reagan said? "Freedom is only one generation away from extinction".

He was right then - and it is coming to pass now. And each and every American is directly responsible for that. What a legacy to leave our children - the death of America.

"Freedom is a fragile thing and is never more than one generation away from extinction. It is not ours by inheritance; it must be fought for and defended constantly by each generation, for it comes only once to a people. Those who have known freedom and then lost it have never known it again." - Ronald Reagan
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Old 11-09-2018, 03:47 PM   #23
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Why are these people still "undocumented"? You would think they would fill out the paperwork if it meant getting kicked out of the country.
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Old 11-09-2018, 04:36 PM   #26
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Well, yes....I absolutely agree with your assessment. But the question must be "why"?

When history (and I mean actual HISTORY) isn't taught in schools any longer - rather nothing more than BS opinion by "teachers" that are more concerned with their agendas - and indoctrinating students into fascism - while parents sit at home on their asses and are encouraged to NOT get involved (or allowed) in their children's education - this is what marks the beginning of the end.

What was it Ronald Reagan said? "Freedom is only one generation away from extinction".

He was right then - and it is coming to pass now. And each and every American is directly responsible for that. What a legacy to leave our children - the death of America.

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RayGun can blow it out his ass. He got hammered by Hispanics in both his landslides, but still rewarded them with the 1986 IRCA amnesty act making 3M of them citizens.


2 years later they shit all over George St in the 1988 landslide, giving him 27% of their vote as a thank you. And of course, starting CA down the path it led to today, complete Dem dominance


F---RayGun.
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Old 11-09-2018, 05:47 PM   #27
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RayGun can blow it out his ass. He got hammered by Hispanics in both his landslides, but still rewarded them with the 1986 IRCA amnesty act making 3M of them citizens.


2 years later they shit all over George St in the 1988 landslide, giving him 27% of their vote as a thank you. And of course, starting CA down the path it led to today, complete Dem dominance


F---RayGun.

....And? Look Reagan was not perfect. But compared to both Bushs....he was a god. I get it. I don’t care for the invasion of the illegals any more than you (or most) Americans do.

Here’s the problem skippy.....

The fascist left is hell bent and determined that we are going to turn America into Mexico North. We have far more problems than Ronald Reagan.....our own countrymen are traitors. We “might” want to tackle that “problem” first, don’t you think?
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Old 11-09-2018, 07:39 PM   #28
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Ronnie really thought the best of people. I think that can be a negative in politics though. He fought commies and repressive regimes thinking they were holding back their people. What he never understood was: those same people put those douchebags in power, or didn't do enough to resist them.

At any rate, the GOP found out definitively that granting Amnesty was a fool's errand that wouldn't be rewarded politically. They should've pulled the "stop" chain in the early 90s once that was apparent.
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Old 11-09-2018, 10:06 PM   #29
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Just offer them full citizenship.


They're gojng to eventually get it anyway, why is this still even being debated? It's so dumb. They aren't going anywhere and in 2 years the Dems will sweep to full power, legalize them, and do a "5 year path" which will have minimal if any strings attached.

Besides, I've been told they're all "natural Repukelican" so don't fear. They'll be reading g Wealth of Nations and listening to Paul Ryano speeches on entitlement reform before you know it.
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That's why they need to simply defy the 9th's opinion. In fact, shred the letter without opening it. What the **** are they going to do?
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