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Old 11-08-2004, 01:23 PM  
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At least we have been stopping the run...

pretty well. Compared to last year we are stuffing it completely out.
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Old 11-08-2004, 01:25 PM   #2
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We ARE better on D than last year. And we're 5 games worse than that team was this time last year. Explain THAT to me.
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Old 11-08-2004, 01:26 PM   #3
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pretty well. Compared to last year we are stuffing it completely out.
Except for the long runs for touchdowns, you are correct, Mr. Daddy T.

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Old 11-08-2004, 01:38 PM   #4
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I think we're stopping* the run because it's so freaking easy to pass against us that you'd have to be an idiot to stick mainly to your ground game against us.

*Assuming you consider the travesty that occurred yesterday stopping.
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Old 11-08-2004, 01:40 PM   #5
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Why would any team want to run for a few yards on any given play when they can pass for 20?

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Old 11-08-2004, 01:43 PM   #6
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The explanation is easy, but unpalatable...

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We ARE better on D than last year. And we're 5 games worse than that team was this time last year. Explain THAT to me.

The Incredible Vanishing Offense & no miracle ST returns.

Last season, the O capitalized on chances to put a game away. This year, they have not done so. For all the howling about the D, the Offense has had a chance to put the game away in every one of our losses. They have come up short.

And STs have not been able to contribute like last season.

That is the difference between 2003 & 2004.

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Old 11-08-2004, 01:43 PM   #7
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pretty well. Compared to last year we are stuffing it completely out.
You have to start somewhere.
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Old 11-08-2004, 01:44 PM   #8
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If you watch the replay on that long run by Pittman you will see a clear hold on the sholder pads of Hicks while he is being pushed inside.
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Old 11-08-2004, 01:45 PM   #9
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Are we ? Really ? It appears to be a little better, but in reality it's not.

Last year, our pass defense was better because teams choose to run on us, trying to control the clock and limit our # of rep's on ofense.

This year the pass D is so bad, teams take mor advantage because the 5 yard rule gives the WR's a huge advantage. Teams are passing more on us, or at least it seams that way.

Yes, " if " you can take out the long runs, we are better, BTA, so is our pass D if we take out the long ones.
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Old 11-08-2004, 01:49 PM   #10
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If you watch the replay on that long run by Pittman you will see a clear hold on the sholder pads of Hicks while he is being pushed inside.
In reality, Mitchell over persued the hole, was an easy block for the pulling guard.

Mitchell needs to time his pursuit, the point of impact to the hole when the HB gets there, if not he better be man enough to shed the block to get the tackle. Mitchell has to look at be blocking going into the hole before he commits his point of attack.
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Old 11-08-2004, 01:52 PM   #11
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Gaz - I don't believe it has as much to do with our ST not making the big play, but more with our ST coverage giving up huge play after huge play.

I think penalties are one of the number one thing that is killing us. In our losses we are averaging over 9 a game, I believe. It has kept our O out of sync and lengthened too many drives for our opponents with PI and holding...
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Old 11-08-2004, 01:55 PM   #12
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Yes, and if I had pushed a little harder, perhaps it would have come out a little longer.

With all due respect, analyzing a complete dump of a performance by the Chiefs may no longer be an intellectual excercise.

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Old 11-08-2004, 01:57 PM   #13
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Yep...


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I agree that the coverage crew is a big problem with ST this season. We miss Beisel and Boerigter a lot. That is a lot more troubling to me than the return game.

I was simply pointing out the difference between 2003 & 2004, as Bowser requested. Hall’s amazing run pulled our hash out of the fire more than once, as I recall.

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Old 11-08-2004, 02:18 PM   #14
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In reality, Mitchell over persued the hole, was an easy block for the pulling guard.

Mitchell needs to time his pursuit, the point of impact to the hole when the HB gets there, if not he better be man enough to shed the block to get the tackle. Mitchell has to look at be blocking going into the hole before he commits his point of attack.
If he held off any longer he would have missed him completely.

He was right there waiting for Pittman but there was a blocker right in front of him. Warfield had his hands on him but couldn't hold on long enough. If anyone overpursued it was Fujita. He was in the hole and picked up by the tight end 2 seconds before Pittman made it to where he was. To me it appears that Mitchell was right where he was supposed to be but unfortunately there was a blocker right there to. The thing that really bothered me was Wesley was just standing there like he thought Mitchell had instead of being back in a position to make an assist and never even pursued the damned ball until they were running right by him. At least Woods was trying to get over but he was being blocked by two guys.
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Old 11-08-2004, 02:22 PM   #15
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Read what Jerome said. They are taught to be so aggressive and get to the ball full speed that when it is misdirection they're screwed. If those bootlegs were simple qb runs he would run for 40 a whack. This "we're gonna kill ya " crap from Gunther isn't good enough. You must be aggressive and disciplined at the same time- that comes with talent and experience- something we don't have much of on that side of the ball.
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