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srvy 04-18-2023 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 16906126)
You're such a skeezy piece of garbage. Just an old hateful sack of shit who never accomplished a meaningful thing in his life. Im sure your family hates you and if you have kids they probably can't stand to be around you.

At least Duncan has the class to admit his faults and tries to better himself by working working on those faults, whereas you continuously spout off utter bullshit and could never admit a mistake. You ****ing loser.

You and your bud bowed to the commy Moscow University bullshit they fed you. Moscow on the Missouri.

You're just a puny little cock suck who will blow anyone who upvotes you . Go suck his dick little turd.

poolboy 04-18-2023 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 16907397)
What would you have preferred?

Say they went out and spent $90M to get Kodai Senga and $70 to get Chris Bassitt, and then 180M to get Brandon Nimmo for his age 29-36 seasons. You think that's moving the needle this year? Probably makes them a team that tops out with an 80-85 win range. Is that what you're thinking?

My preference is that no later than June 1, we're looking at a lineup that includes Nick Loftin and Maikel Garcia.

If that means Garcia at SS, Witt Jr. at 3B, and Loftin at 2B (where he has been spending most of his time at Omaha this year), or Garcia at 2B, Witt at SS and Loftin at 3B, I don't care.

Personally, I'd give Witt some more time at SS and see how it's looking in a larger sample size. Because if you move him off of it, you need to move him off for good and to the more permanent spot.

I want to see Waters back in CF every day as soon as he's back. Jettison Bradley, Dozier, and Matt Duffy.

a one year free agency splurge is not gonna move the needle much. But, if your smart about it consistently year after year as well as killing the draft?...It just seems like we are leaving a big part of baseball on the table

Mecca 04-18-2023 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 16907397)
What would you have preferred?

Say they went out and spent $90M to get Kodai Senga and $70 to get Chris Bassitt, and then 180M to get Brandon Nimmo for his age 29-36 seasons. You think that's moving the needle this year? Probably makes them a team that tops out with an 80-85 win range. Is that what you're thinking?

My preference is that no later than June 1, we're looking at a lineup that includes Nick Loftin and Maikel Garcia.

If that means Garcia at SS, Witt Jr. at 3B, and Loftin at 2B (where he has been spending most of his time at Omaha this year), or Garcia at 2B, Witt at SS and Loftin at 3B, I don't care.

Personally, I'd give Witt some more time at SS and see how it's looking in a larger sample size. Because if you move him off of it, you need to move him off for good and to the more permanent spot.

I want to see Waters back in CF every day as soon as he's back. Jettison Bradley, Dozier, and Matt Duffy.

Dansby Swanson should have been their pursuit...

Mecca 04-18-2023 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by poolboy (Post 16907511)
a one year free agency splurge is not gonna move the needle much. But, if your smart about it consistently year after year as well as killing the draft?...It just seems like we are leaving a big part of baseball on the table

If that's your plan this team won't be competitive till at the earliest 27. When you asked for a new stadium in my view you need to act like you give a shit.

ChiefsCountry 04-18-2023 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16907515)
Dansby Swanson should have been their pursuit...

Swanson was always going to Chicago. His wife is there.

Mecca 04-18-2023 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 16907522)
Swanson was always going to Chicago. His wife is there.

Even if you believe that, the Royals pursued no one in a huge year of FA. Loweree the payroll and asked for a stadium..

It's a bad look.

ChiefsCountry 04-18-2023 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16907525)
Even if you believe that, the Royals pursued no one in a huge year of FA. Loweree the payroll and asked for a stadium..

It's a bad look.

Why in the hell would they go after a Free agent shortstop when they got a young stud at the position

Mecca 04-18-2023 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 16907539)
Why in the hell would they go after a Free agent shortstop when they got a young stud at the position

Because if you leave Witt at 3rd you have a chance at a ++ infield.

It's another reason it annoys me to no end that Dozier is around. Vinnie should see most of his time around DH with Pratto at 1st.

poolboy 04-18-2023 06:18 PM

A 3rd baseman that could hit a little would be nice

poolboy 04-18-2023 06:19 PM

Bobby is not moving off SS...He wants to play there....kinda like dumbass OBJ wouldnt move off LT

poolboy 04-18-2023 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16907547)
Because if you leave Witt at 3rd you have a chance at a ++ infield.

It's another reason it annoys me to no end that Dozier is around. Vinnie should see most of his time around DH with Pratto at 1st.

then what do you do with Salvy dong when he needs 20 games at dh
Pratto is just odd man out so far

Mecca 04-18-2023 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by poolboy (Post 16907556)
then what do you do with Salvy dong when he needs 20 games at dh
Pratto is just odd man out so far

All guys get days off here and there.

poolboy 04-18-2023 06:26 PM

I hear ya....Its a puzzle palace right now

poolboy 04-18-2023 06:27 PM

Salvy 2-2

PHOG 04-18-2023 07:23 PM

So are you in 1st place and want to stay? Or are you wanting to be in 1st place? Welllll, just make sure you have the Royals on your schedule and your wish WILL come true!

Pablo 04-18-2023 07:41 PM

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Pablo 04-18-2023 07:51 PM

Some things weren’t meant to be. Seeing .500 this season was one of those things

ChiefsCountry 04-18-2023 07:59 PM

Bark in the Park wasn't the only dog turd at Kauffman tonight

Mecca 04-18-2023 08:02 PM

This team is absolute butt.

lewdog 04-18-2023 08:05 PM

I knew this team would be bad but this is honestly horrendous.

Al Bundy 04-18-2023 08:06 PM

I think it is time to start questioning the coaching staff as it turns out they are having the same results as the previous staff. This one is a 100 loss team as you can tell the players have no interest in competing.

Chiefspants 04-18-2023 08:10 PM

If this continues, soon the question will become when we should embrace the tank.

Are there elite players at the top of this draft or are we matching up with another Hochevar/Fisher year?

ChiefsCountry 04-18-2023 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 16907666)
If this continues, soon the question will become when we should embrace the tank.

Are there elite players at the top of this draft or are matching up with another Hochevar/Fisher year?

MLB has a lotto system now. Suck doesn't equal draft position.

Sassy Squatch 04-18-2023 08:29 PM

I don't know what it is, but I haven't been just completely apathetic towards the team like this maybe ever.

tk13 04-18-2023 08:31 PM

What's bad is they're just getting clobbered out there. It's not a losing team with young guys who are losing close games and need to settle down a bit.

Mecca 04-18-2023 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 16907684)
What's bad is they're just getting clobbered out there. It's not a losing team with young guys who are losing close games and need to settle down a bit.

They also have a real issue in that Bubic is getting a second opinion which is never good...and they have zero help...

Heasley is getting lit up at AAA, Kowar is a reliever, there's no one ready.

Sassy Squatch 04-18-2023 08:35 PM

Paying the price for keeping Moore and by extension Eldred long past their expiration date. Excising a cancer of that magnitude will take multiple seasons and that's IF Piccolo and co are actually the right ones for the job.

Chiefspants 04-18-2023 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 16907680)
MLB has a lotto system now. Suck doesn't equal draft position.

That’s why having 3 elite players at the top to choose from would be the most ideal.

ILChief 04-18-2023 09:37 PM

Glad I didn’t buy mlb.tv

GloryDayz 04-18-2023 09:55 PM

12-2 loss. We were || close... LMAO

Rex will find some bright side....

Sure-Oz 04-18-2023 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 16907684)
What's bad is they're just getting clobbered out there. It's not a losing team with young guys who are losing close games and need to settle down a bit.

Quartraro doesn't know what to say either

Prison Bitch 04-18-2023 10:05 PM

Hey the pitching is better and 12 runs allowed tonite! No Bible study solved this

-duncanIdaho

Mecca 04-18-2023 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 16907754)
Hey the pitching is better and 12 runs allowed tonite! No Bible study solved this

-duncanIdaho

Unfortunately if they aren't going to spend money it will take years to build the depth the Rays have to play that way.

Ocotillo 04-18-2023 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16907779)
Unfortunately if they aren't going to spend money it will take years to build the depth the Rays have to play that way.

The Rays are more than just raw talent though. They can maximize the performance of fringe players.

The Rays will take a fringe major league reliever like Jeffrey Springs and turn him into a Cy Young-caliber starter.

Jason Adam had a 6.12 ERA with the Royals in 2018 and a 5.91 ERA with the Cubs in 2021.

He lowered his ERA to 1.56 with the Rays last year and is now one of the top high leverage relievers in baseball.

It's not realistic to expect the Royals to meet their level of efficiency. A better objective would be trying to be meeting the level of the Brewers, Guardians or Athletics.

BWillie 04-18-2023 11:55 PM

Is this one of the worst teams ever?

KCUnited 04-19-2023 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 16907666)
If this continues, soon the question will become when we should embrace the tank.

Are there elite players at the top of this draft or are matching up with another Hochevar/Fisher year?

If its truly an evaluation period we may as well start at the P4 parking garage elevator 4 stories underground and see how they eyeball and draft talent in pole position.

I mean these other contracts will be coming up for arb but lets just find out what we got!

KCUnited 04-19-2023 12:11 AM

Royals Baseball: Well What Would You Do, HUH?!?!

ChiefsFanatic 04-19-2023 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16907801)
Is this one of the worst teams ever?

This could be the worst defensive team in Royals history. I don't know what the numbers show, but I don't remember ever seeing a Royals team this bad defensively.

MJ Melendez is one of the worst defensive players I can remember.

nychief 04-19-2023 06:43 AM

I - and most objective people - forecast this pile of shit coming before the season and I was told to stop bitching and wait for the season... .

FringeNC 04-19-2023 07:35 AM

This just sucks that the season is over before it really started. It just kills your long-term enthusiasm. I used to be so much more of a fan. Having said that, it's hard to be too critical of the new regime. (It makes no sense to spend money on free agents in these type of years.). This disaster is on Dayton Moore: where's the talent?

Prison Bitch 04-19-2023 08:41 AM

Big Bad Brad: 5 bb in 4 IP. Season FIP 4.36 (4.21 for career)


Yeah looks encouraging. New pitching coach fixed Keller for sure. And best of allno BIBLE STUDY

WhawhaWhat 04-19-2023 09:00 AM

Somebody got his feelings hurt.

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Mecca 04-19-2023 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by FringeNC (Post 16907952)
This just sucks that the season is over before it really started. It just kills your long-term enthusiasm. I used to be so much more of a fan. Having said that, it's hard to be too critical of the new regime. (It makes no sense to spend money on free agents in these type of years.). This disaster is on Dayton Moore: where's the talent?

Depends on the FA, if someone is hitting FA that is young and you think will still be a player when you are expecting to contend then it makes sense.

Should the Padres not have signed Machado?

Prison Bitch 04-19-2023 10:00 AM

You don’t hassle the Hoz.

But he might be done. Age 33, 10-44 .227. Has two XBH (lulz) , both doubles. As a 1B DH. Starting to get benched and likely to get cut soon


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Pablo 04-19-2023 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 16908029)
Big Bad Brad: 5 bb in 4 IP. Season FIP 4.36 (4.21 for career)


Yeah looks encouraging. New pitching coach fixed Keller for sure. And best of allno BIBLE STUDY

Babble study is more like it amirite????

Pablo 04-19-2023 10:06 AM

I want the report on how these young guys are doing as fathers and brothers and sons and uncles and men of faith. That’s the only thing they can cheer me up after this dismal baseball. Knowing that these are some tremendous young men in the clubhouse.

Prison Bitch 04-19-2023 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 16908178)
I want the report on how these young guys are doing as fathers and brothers and sons and uncles and men of faith. That’s the only thing they can cheer me up after this dismal baseball. Knowing that these are some tremendous young men in the clubhouse.

You’re in the ballpark. But the official story from the BFIBS was: Matheny gives playing time to guys in his Bible Study. They had heard these stories and wanted to relay the vital info on to us.


And we were very fortunate these insiders blessed us so.

Pablo 04-19-2023 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 16908195)
You’re in the ballpark. But the official story from the BFIBS was: Matheny gives playing time to guys in his Bible Study. They had heard these stories and wanted to relay the vital info on to us.


And we were very fortunate these insiders blessed us so.

All I know is

Royals baseball = bad
Bible = bad

Time for the new manager to set up a Quran study and turn this shit around. Or maybe just a good ol fashioned book club where they read off Oprah’s book list??

Prison Bitch 04-19-2023 10:24 AM

Quran might work. The Shermanator hasn’t proven he can fix it, so why not?

Mecca 04-19-2023 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 16908246)
Quran might work. The Shermanator hasn’t proven he can fix it, so why not?

If the owner would do the Shermanator line from American Pie that would fix it.

siberian khatru 04-19-2023 10:44 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Maikel Garcia was in the original lineup. He is not in the updated lineup. <a href="https://t.co/7J9oFmTwKt">https://t.co/7J9oFmTwKt</a></p>&mdash; David Lesky (@DBLesky) <a href="https://twitter.com/DBLesky/status/1648727056773939201?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 19, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Pablo 04-19-2023 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 16908246)
Quran might work. The Shermanator hasn’t proven he can fix it, so why not?

Just give him some time. And a downtown ballpark and it’s all gonna fall in place

duncan_idaho 04-19-2023 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by srvy (Post 16907492)
Yeah, you were so sure of it 4 years ago. You were just as cock sure that the royals were being soiled by evil evangelist bible beaters in the clubhouse. All because some little spoiled cardinal bitches didn't get the playing time they deserved and spread bullshit out to the press that they weren't getting playing time because of religion. Then those east coast slimy best fans in baseball spread it. You bought it and started the same damn thing here. Every chance you got you to put it out. Funny thing unlike St Lou I didn't see any of the ballplayers run their mouths after the regime was culled.

I was pretty sure. After talking to someone who had seen the police report, and spoken to one of the detectives, and seen the pictures submitted.

In DV cases, instances of the accuser completely fabricating everything are very rare. That sure looks like one of them, in hindsight. Like I said, it forced me to reevaluate my reaction in situations like that, letting more time pass and information come out.

That's a lot of words to say "My reaction was based on talking to people who had seen the documentation on the legal side of things, but that was wrong because Crystal lied, which made me wrong, and made me reevaluate and change my reaction in cases like that."

My issues with the Matheny staff were always far more broad than the religiosity of the staff. That was a secondary component to the tactical issues, the issues developing young players effectively, and the inability to keep the clubhouse healthy and loose.

I don't think I was anywhere close to the primary complainer about the religious component. But remember it however you want.

Re: the stories in St. Louis and Matheny's Bible study, that's an urban legend that happens to be supported by a friend of mine who covers baseball for a national publication and who witnessed it first-hand in the clubhouse.

I don't expect this to change your opinion of me (honestly don't care), and honestly I don't expect you to even read the whole thing. If you want to hate me forever or whatever, you do you, man.

I won't be responding about this again. Back to baseball talk in the thread, for me at least.

duncan_idaho 04-19-2023 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Al Bundy (Post 16907663)
I think it is time to start questioning the coaching staff as it turns out they are having the same results as the previous staff. This one is a 100 loss team as you can tell the players have no interest in competing.

Totally could be. For me, it depends on the drivers of the bad results to a degree.

If your pitching staff sucks overall and it's random bullpen guys driving a lot of it, but you have some points of improvement (say, Keller continues to have a pretty good year, and some other pitchers continue to do well). If everybody sucks save for a single success story (ie Eldred and Brad Keller), that's really a bad sign.

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 16908308)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Maikel Garcia was in the original lineup. He is not in the updated lineup. <a href="https://t.co/7J9oFmTwKt">https://t.co/7J9oFmTwKt</a></p>&mdash; David Lesky (@DBLesky) <a href="https://twitter.com/DBLesky/status/1648727056773939201?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 19, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

That's very interesting. I wonder if we could see a Garcia/Massey swap.

Prison Bitch 04-19-2023 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 16908310)
Just give him some time. And a downtown ballpark and it’s all gonna fall in place

He got that nickname for ruthlessly gobbling up little rural propane companies. But MLB is a diff “ballgame” (get it?). Full of sophisticated people, owners are all much richer than he, with a closed system of zero-sum results (there are only 81 wins per team)



TLDR: he hasn’t earned The Shermanator as owner. All he’s done is put out cheap, shitty teams and demand a new ballpark

ChiefsCountry 04-19-2023 12:35 PM

Olivares blows defensively.

MAG 04-19-2023 12:36 PM

Boo these ****ing losers

ChiefsCountry 04-19-2023 12:57 PM

Bob Dong over the bullpen

Mecca 04-19-2023 12:57 PM

Singer had a season reprieve and now he's also butt.

Prison Bitch 04-19-2023 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16908578)
Singer had a season reprieve and now he's also butt.

But that new pitching coach?

Mecca 04-19-2023 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 16908590)
But that new pitching coach?

His velocity is down and everything is up, it's very possible he had an outlier year last year...

Gary Cooper 04-19-2023 01:14 PM

Two playoff appearances in 38 seasons! They were both World Series trips, but that's still a record for futility in North American sports.

Even the Lions make the playoffs more often.

Mecca 04-19-2023 01:15 PM

I guess the best move the Royals made was not signing Singer to an extension.

ChiefsCountry 04-19-2023 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16908595)
His velocity is down and everything is up, it's very possible he had an outlier year last year...

Sitting the bench on WBC instead of spring training I would venture is some of the problem

duncan_idaho 04-19-2023 01:30 PM

With Singer, I think we'll see it's one of a few things:

1) Weird spring training has him off schedule (his velocity being down would coincide with the "dead arm" period most guys work through in Spring Training
2) He wasn't that good
3) The pitching coaching hasn't been as effective with him as the previous staff
4) He's injured (which would probably related to (1))

Time will tell.

ChiefsCountry 04-19-2023 01:35 PM

Hernandez went 1,2,3. And was hitting 100s on the gun. Hopefully last night was just a major off night.

Pablo 04-19-2023 02:25 PM

Forgot there was a day game. Looks like I missed a humdinger

Mecca 04-19-2023 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 16908769)
Forgot there was a day game. Looks like I missed a humdinger

They are changing their name to the KC cheeks and the logo is just a big fat ass shitting.

ChiefsCountry 04-19-2023 02:38 PM

Mathney ruined Barlow. He is done.

GloryDayz 04-19-2023 02:41 PM

We're all putting far too much thought into the Royals. We're thinking harder about them and figuring out their problems than they are playing.

They suck, end of story.

cmh6476 04-19-2023 02:44 PM

Did that just say the royals have been outscored 28-5 in this series? Oof

cmh6476 04-19-2023 02:51 PM

Swept yet again.

kstater 04-19-2023 03:02 PM

At least Quartaro has brought consistency

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PurpleJesus28 04-19-2023 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by kstater (Post 16908890)
At least Quartaro has brought consistency

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Exactly my thoughts. I like consistency with my baseball,might as well keep ****ing losing lol.

DCTwister 04-19-2023 03:12 PM

Are the 2023 Royals possibly the worst team in baseball history? Discuss.

ChiefsCountry 04-19-2023 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DCTwister (Post 16908912)
Are the 2023 Royals possibly the worst team in baseball history? Discuss.

No. Royals aren't even the worst team this year.

Mecca 04-19-2023 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 16908935)
No. Royals aren't even the worst team this year.

Well that is debatable..

ChiefsCountry 04-19-2023 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16908941)
Well that is debatable..

A's have one less win and -25 below the Royals on run differential.

cmh6476 04-19-2023 03:44 PM

The 1899 Cleveland Spiders were 20-134 (.130)... The Royals are bad, but won't be Spider bad...

Prison Bitch 04-19-2023 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 16908830)
Mathney ruined Barlow. He is done.

Still talking about that guy LOL


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