ChiefsPlanet - Royals ***Official 2023 Royals Season Repository Thread***

I'd trade y'all Paul DeJong for him just to get that asshole off the Cardinals roster so I don't have to hear Chip and Butters give him a handjob every time he fields a routine grounder.

Sassy Squatch

06-12-2023 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16978637)

I'm being a little dramatic - I'd say half of your good prospects develop into genuine big leaguers and about half of those stay healthy enough to hit their ceiling.

So you're talking about 1 in 4 rather than 1 in 8.

But man, from Lacy, Singer, Kowar and Bubic you've GOTTA get at least a playoff caliber starter in there somewhere. A #2 at worst. You can't get a scenario where the best of that lot might be a little better than someone like Keller who who guys got as an organizational cast-off.

But it's just hard to know where to even begin. I'd say everyone in baseball should just be stealing talent from the Dodgers and Rays when it comes to organization building and then the Indians and Marlins when it comes to pitcher development.

Go poach some guys. Oh sure, there are gonna be coattail riding Pioli-like bitches in there, but that's the nice thing about a staff in baseball - there's a TON of collective wisdom. Steal lots of guys - some of them will be worth a shit.

And from an ROI standpoint, it's a HELL of a lot cheaper than torching draft and/or FA capital.

We kind of did that though. At least the manager and pitching development

DJ's left nut

06-12-2023 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 16978650)

We kind of did that though. At least the manager and pitching development

Aren't most of your front-office guys folks who were promoted from within? I know Picollo was. And I can guess a big ol' chunk of guys like Mitch Maier, Reggie Sanders and Mike Sweeney were. Monahan is a career Royal, pretty sure Goldberg is and I think Zumwalt is.

I'm not really talking about field personnel as much - I'm talking about the 50 guys you have behind the scenes evaluating players and creating throwing programs and all that stuff. The guys stocking the pipelines and teaching them as far away as Quad Cities.

Though i will concede that coming from Cleveland, you'd have expected Sherman to have made a little more progress towards rebuilding the pitching factory they had out there. Maybe that just takes more time...

ChiefsCountry

06-12-2023 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16978644)

I'd trade y'all Paul DeJong for him just to get that asshole off the Cardinals roster so I don't have to hear Chip and Butters give him a handjob every time he fields a routine grounder.

Would take Tyler O'Neil off your hands. I think he would be perfect for what the Royals need.

Sassy Squatch

06-12-2023 03:03 PM

That's an incredibly low bar to hop considering that's anything even remotely positive at this point.

ChiefsCountry

06-12-2023 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16978664)

Though i will concede that coming from Cleveland, you'd have expected Sherman to have made a little more progress towards rebuilding the pitching factory they had out there. Maybe that just takes more time...

I think this year the plan was to see if Matheny and Eldred were the problem or do the players just suck ass. So far its looking like they just suck ass.

Bubic gets a TJ after 3 starts. So there goes his evaluation out the window. Singer's problem is he is a red ass that won't throw a 3rd pitch.

DJ's left nut

06-12-2023 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 16978695)

Yeah - Singer still thinks it's 1987 where a 94 mph sinker means you're hot shit.

Now that gets you some work in the 7th inning. Sinker/Slider when the slider is a pretty average offering won't really get you anywhere in today's game.

DJ's left nut

06-12-2023 03:31 PM

Was it Keller y'all had that threw some of the funky new-age 'seam shifted wake' stuff that just scrambles brains? Like, you throw a slider, but the angle you throw it at puts it in its own 'jetwash' and the ball looks like a slider that should move a certain way but then it goes a completely different way.

It's not even a particularly devastating pitch, but hitters end up a little vapor locked by it so it can be more effective than it looks like it should be.

A lot of teams were tinkering with that a couple years back as a way for fringe stuff to play up a bit, but you hear less about it now. I'm not sure what other 'magic bullet' kind of stuff may exist to help that staff out.

As you noted - they just might not be very good.

ChiefsCountry

06-12-2023 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16978697)

One thing last year I will give Dayton Moore credit for. When he sent Singer down to Omaha last year was you better get a third pitch or you might never get back to the majors.

tk13	06-12-2023 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16978547)

He's like a poor mans Jarrod Dyson.

Nah Dyson barely hit home runs at all. Blanco's got a little pop in his bat. He's been a guy who hits 10-15 homers and steals 40 bases a year. The problem is he's 30 years old.

lewdog

06-12-2023 06:07 PM

Name a player on the roster who has EXCEEDED expectations this year.

I'll wait.

WhawhaWhat

06-12-2023 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 16978878)

Name a player on the roster who has EXCEEDED expectations this year.

I'll wait.

I think Maikel Garcia has been pretty good, relatively speaking.

WhawhaWhat

06-12-2023 06:17 PM

Salvy is taking a beating this inning.