Man, where is Ohearn when you need him the most?

He's batting .429!

Granted it's only 10 plate appearances.

Prorated to 600 PA's he'd have 180 hits and 300 RBI!

Witt definitely isn't re-signing in Kansas City. If he were it would have to be 10 for 400 million and we know they aren't doing that, so we can forget him.

Yeah hopefully they all dont want out at this point

Gotta spin the wheel and take your chances with him.

As it stands, the Royals have already burned two years of service time (or will have by the EOY) and haven't gotten a deal done, so you may be right.

What they needed to have done was A) Wait to call him up in 2022 and then B) with 6 seasons still remaining until FA (one of them likely to be an arb4 year), leverage that into a deal.

I mean you're maybe talking $45-50 million total before he hits FA even with a Super 2 year in there?

Let's say $50 million - So you offer him a 10 year deal worth $200 million. It essentially buys you 5 years of FA eligibility at $150 million total. Sure, it's risky and expensive, but it's what teams like the Royals have to do to keep guys like that if they turn into star players.

Look at the deal the Mariners did with Rodriguez. It's a really interesting deal and sure it subjected them to risk, but it also guaranteed Rodriguez will never have to work again after his playing days are over even if he blows his arms off tomorrow. It's essentially a 7 year, $120 million deal w/ a team option for 8 years/$200+ million (depending on MVP escalators) afterwards that converts to a 5 year, $90 million player option if declined.

So Rodriguez is effectively guaranteed $170 million over 12 years with a chance to earn gobs more depending on how he performs.

Witt's agency is Octagon so it ain't Boras pulling the strings here. I feel like KC could've gotten something done. But they don't appear to have planned terribly well and their window to do so is closing fast.

Vinny should be retainable. Isn't likely to put up monster power numbers and has no real defensive versatility.

If the Royals don't keep him around it's because either HE sucks or your ownership group does. There's really no excuse for not getting something figured out there. His floor is pretty well established as, at worst, a quality major league hitter.

Stop dicking around and get that ironed out.

exactly, Locking Vinnie up would be the kind of move they need to get done at this point

something. anything...move the needle

they are content chasing guys off with arbitration hearings for peanuts

And honestly, I think you could get that done at something that would seem to be a pittance over the last few years.

Like, 8/$100 seems doable. And he's already 25 so he's not gonna see FA until he's 31; he'd be incentivized to do it as well.

John Sherman spend money...that's hilarious.

I spent money buying the team.. what chu talking about Willis?.

2023 MLB Opening Day Payrolls
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...s/11612107002/

N.Y. Mets, $353,546,854
N.Y. Yankees, $276,999,872
San Diego, $248,995,932
Philadelphia, $243,009,439
L.A. Dodgers, $222,717,834
L.A. Angels, $212,228,096
Toronto, $ 209,938,983
Atlanta, $203,077,500
Texas, $195,869,490
Houston, $192,667,233
San Francisco, $187,932,500
Chicago Cubs, $184,219,250
Boston, $181,207,484
Chicago White Sox, $181,158,666
St. Louis, $175,637,308
Colorado, $171,108,778
Minnesota, $153,588,740
Seattle, $137,119,947
Detroit, $122,235,500
Milwaukee, $118,761,987
Arizona, $116,471,292
Washington, $ 101,190,153
Kansas City, $92,468,100
Miami, $91,700,000
Cleveland, 89,424,629
Cincinnati, $83,610,000
Pittsburgh, $73,277,500
Tampa Bay, $73,184,811
Baltimore, $60,722,300
Oakland, $56,895,000

Dozier and Salvy account for 30 mill

Did we lose again?

I’m here now so

a) Expect a great loss. Like a Dozier and Isbel hit for the combined cycle and Lopez goes yard and still lose type of loss.

b) Downtown stadium is where it’s at. Suns are playing .2 miles away. Entire area is lit. Parking a breeze.

So imagine if you can Monster Jam going down at the T-Mobile Center while the Royals host the Rockies.

I would totally support an NBA team again...not gonna happen though

LMAO

I’m just happy when the royals are on the west coast and the games start at 830. Saves me any desire to tune in to watch awful baseball

They just optioned Taj Bradley to AAA


And for good reason: he was only 3-0 with a 3.52 era in 15ip. Only has 23k

Theo from the Real World threw out the first pitch

Can’t be more than 7K people here

1/3 are KC fan

Well three of the four legit hitters have done okay so far.

The Star finally hired a beat writer for the Royals
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Personal News: I am excited to announce I am joining the <a href="https://twitter.com/KCStar?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@KCStar</a> to cover the <a href="https://twitter.com/Royals?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Royals</a>. Thank you to <a href="https://twitter.com/USATODAY?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@USATODAY</a> for a great run and to everyone that helped me on this journey. <br><br>This is a childhood dream to cover baseball and I’m excited to get things started. ⚾️</p>&mdash; Jaylon T. Thompson (@jaylonthompson) <a href="https://twitter.com/jaylonthompson/status/1650998302853177344?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 25, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

That poor ****ing bastard.

It's all good, it allows the people of KC to save a lot of cash during the "rebuilding" stretches by not attending games unless there's something else to attend for.

Theo is actually more known for being a comic than his real world career now.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It doesn’t really matter what the Rays say. They are manipulating service time with Taj Bradley.</p>&mdash; Chris Clegg (@RotoClegg) <a href="https://twitter.com/RotoClegg/status/1650934166333145088?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 25, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Yes, thank you for that

Bro still threw out a first pitch to 5K people

Royals getting some nice hits tonight.

He doesn't want to be in Kansas City.

Where does your pea brain think of these things

Hopefully Chapman is alright.

Bonehead play by BWJ.

The defense has been painful for the past three seasons.

And the Royals win!!!

Royals win!

Hopefully, he can shine a monkey's ass into a golden idle.

Nm

He's not really warranted much at this point. The guy has a career .724 ops and terribledefensive metrics. We act like he's a superstar because we are projecting but what if he's just Jeff Francoer?

Focus on locking up Vinnie, who for some reason will be much cheaper.

If I was Witt Id capitalize on this funny idea that for some reason ppl think hes an elite baseball player and accept whatever big deal I can get.

Focus should be on locking up both.

It’s only 25 games, but his defensive numbers are improved this year, and he’s pacing for a 25 HR/30 SB season.

His offensive numbers have paced up just slightly, but the version of him right now is similar to prime Ian Desmond, who was a valuable guy for the first half of his career.

I see a guy who, for the most part, is taking better at-bats and being more selective at the dish. I think there still is upside with the bat.

There still is potential for him to do more. There’s good reason for an extension for both sides.

Winning streak is coming!!!!

Royals pitchers need to wear this on the mound, for safety reasons

Well, it is nice to see Singer have a good game. Hope his slow start is behind him.

But leave it to the Rays to have a plan.

They're doing it because they intended to have him up at some point as part of a 6-man rotation. The Springs injury blew that plan apart. So with him presently being on a 6-day schedule, they're looking to get him back to 5 days. So he'll probably miss a couple of turns to make sure he can get his throwing program lined out and then be back by Mid-late May as part of the rotation.

Because the Rays are just pretty damn smart.

We'll see if they keep him down through mid-June.

Because they already had him in AAA long enough to retain the extra year of service time. So the only question would end up being if you could salvage a Super 2 season out of it and get a 4th year of arb.

And even THAT doesn't really matter for the Rays because they'll either extend him long-term prior to his arb years or they'll trade him with a couple years of service time left anyway.

It's always the gut reaction, but there's little practical reason to believe it's the case here.

Dude, if the Royals win today you are required to hit the road to Minnesota for the next series!

I've attended my one game this season, no need for them win any more

Definitely but if we offered 40M for 10 years to Witt Jr wouldn't he sign it in a heartbeat? It would be a terrible move to turn that down and it would be terrible for the Royals to offer it. Maybe there is something much more reasonablein the middle which I would not expect Witt to sign.

400M for 10 is laughable at this point and if he is just Jeff Francoer would be the worst extension in the history of baseball. Such a contract would be one of the riskiest contracts ever.

If anybody has leverage to get a deal it is Witt Jr. He has all the advantages on his side, perception, youth despite proven results yet. Has all the potential in the world but will he ever get there?

On the flip side, Vinnie deal would be much easier and cheaper. Hes older, less perceived upside since he simply wasn't a big draft pick. While doesn't have defensive flexibility we know he will produce. And much less risky based on the dollars he would demand.

LMAO Holy shit, didn't even notice the As at first. But they are deliberately tanking so you kind of need to ignore them anyway when evaluating performance. Royals are just ****ing trash this year.

There's not much optimism there.

Oh wait.....lots of the balls are being hit hard!!!

At least the Royals aren't so far off the scale that they're easy to overlook like Oakland.

It would make sense to do something like 6/$100 with incentives to $120M for Pasquantino.

Witt would probably want something north of that but south of JRod's extension. 6/120? 8/$160?

Gallen scoreless inning streak is at around 26 I think. At least the first 22 weren’t against KC!

Got guys on and couldn't knock them in. That's the Royals bottom of the lineup for you.

Royals are going to do what they've done...

Trade players for prospects. The list of players traded by the Royals to other teams for prospects is pretty long. It worked in 2014. They had a young core of players and hit the jackpot on the pitching. It was the perfect storm; unlikely to be repeated.

Even a blind squirrel finds an acorn.

Amazing, shot out again.

Aw shucks missed another classic royals game

At least...

The Royals really haven't done this since Carlos Beltran. Sometimes to the long-term detriment of the team.

Zack Greinke is the only "good" player they've traded since then, and that was really him forcing their hand.

Yep, it is just backup noise to me at this point. I turned it on worked a bit on the home computer browsed CP and looked up it was off-air. I had to look up MLB score's to find the final score lmao

I'm trying to make sense of the moves they make; much like the Chiefs during their down years. It was almost like they didn't care about winning as long as fans came and spent their money. Baseball is so different than football, the same teams are able to collect most of the talent because of their market size.

I don't think it can be exaggerated just what a disaster Dayton Moore's post-World Series years were. Those blaming Sherman -- seems like entirely the wrong target to me.

I don't think anyone is going to dispute how terrible Dayton Moore was about the way he built the roster, drafted etc etc etc.

And yes the Royals are a long way away from being good because they have to undo all he did, rebuild the system all of that stuff.

Sherman is getting shit and catching flack because he's asking for a 2 billion dollar stadium project while the Royals are doing nothing but cutting payroll. You can say hey that is the right way to do it but the optics to the casual person don't look great. Hell there are already a lot of people that don't think you should give public money to a billionaire to just turn more profit.

Not his fault, but yeah, spouting off about money for a new stadium when the team is literally the worst in the league excluding the one outright tanking to force a move and you've done nothing but slash payroll leads to annoyance and apathy.

Had the Chiefs asked for 2 billion for a stadium when Scott Pioli and Matt Cassel were here it would have been met with complete and total apathy as well.

I'm sure that everyone is excited to watch the Royals vs Twins game tonight with nothing else going on.

:LOL:

So Zac Gallens mystery pitch. Is it just me or if that breaks like it should, does Vinny not put that in the right field porch? What a weird break, pardon the pun.

I was wondering that too! Catcher sets up low and outside. The pitch ends up, up and in. Is this why the catcher missed it completely?

To me it looks like it got there faster than what Vinnie and the catcher thought, but it was just 83 mph.

Man Gallen was on though, and has been maybe the best pitcher in the MLB the last three weeks?

Cardinals traded Sandy Alcantara and Zac Gallen for Marcel Ozuna. Talk about a rotation they could have had.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Shohei Ohtani was a HR shy of being the first pitcher to ever hit for the Cycle<br><br>“BASEBALL HISTORY FOR SHOHEI OHTANI….. and it’s caught at the wall” <a href="https://t.co/buJ9Lei6fc">pic.twitter.com/buJ9Lei6fc</a></p>&mdash; Barstool Sports (@barstoolsports) <a href="https://twitter.com/barstoolsports/status/1651724296039825409?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 27, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Home run No. 5 for Vinnie Pasquantino -- and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Royals?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Royals</a> have their first hit and run of the night off Tyler Mahle in the fourth inning.<br><br>103 mph off the bat<br>419 feet</p>&mdash; Anne Rogers (@anne__rogers) <a href="https://twitter.com/anne__rogers/status/1651746537163071489?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 28, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Greinke might be done. He is getting shelled again tonight.

If it happens, the royals brand and championshps stay here.

Future Royals Hall of Famer Vinnie Pasquantino

thats good right?

God we are bad. Like bad bad.