You obviously haven't been following the Chiefs for long.

They fell apart in 2007.

It's Haley's job to put them back together.

After watching some video last night, the DEs need some work, too.

Dorsey and Jackson got their ass kicked plenty.

Dude..... The Chiefs axed a holdover from an old regime. Do you think Cassel's going to demand a trade now, the way that Nancy Cutler did?

If not, you really need to know when to just STFU.

They're not going to bring in anyone new, other than having Haley's dad sitting under the goalposts yelling old man obscenities at Succop every time he misses a 28 yard field goal. They'll just readjust the staff, make Carthon the OC by title, and let Haley run the show. I'm looking forward to it.

Dumbass, they will not be worse than last year. They are already 100x better by firing Herm.

Jackson has the makings of a beast but he will certainly struggle at times during his rookie season.

Dorsey should be shipped out for whatever they can get for him. He doesn't fit. Start Magee because he's your long-term solution (allegedly).

Thigpen's mother > Orton

BTW, how's his boo-boo? Did Joshie have to sprinkle him with kisses and put the Barbie band-aid on it?

Say anything to make yourself feel better.

Flowers went out early, and if I am not mistaken, Mays did as well. I do not think we blitzed much at all to put any pressure on Hasselback, but I could be wrong there. And, our offense did nothing to help out our defense after the 3rd quarter, and that falls mostly on TT.

First string defense is OK, IMO. Maybe not the Steelers or Ravens yet, but much better than C. Gunninghams looked.

Wait til you see the gif of Tank Tyler getting destroyed by a fullback.

Dont you just know that somewhere over on the mange some idiot just posted a thread titled "the folks at ChiefsPlanet are throwing a fit!".

I saw it.

Do you have a gif of Goff getting pancaked by Leroy Hill?

Unreal.

I think it's way too early to make that call.

I think the defense will be good in two to three years but this year, I fully expect them to be at the bottom of the league in every statistic.

I must say that it's been a very good learning experience for me as I've followed what's going on in K.C. and Denver. I used to think that the R*A*T*S fans were obsessive about the Patriots, and they are.

They don't hold a candle to the Broncos and Chiefs fans with their obsessions about the respective 'enemies'. These boards are Fatal Attraction when it comes to that stuff, and I love it.

Dane mentioned... "live by the sword, die by the sword"... I agree and I like that approach as well.

The only thing that worries me with this is that this Haley project is an all or nothing move (in a relatively short time-frame).

If you're a bill parcells, or even a Tom Coughlin....you can come into a new team, kick some asses around....fire people, do whatever you want.

But - when you're a rookie head coach - you're not going to get the same time-frame to show improvements as a Parcells or Coughlin, or Cowher for that matter.

So I say to Haley....you'd better be right.....and be more right than wrong - quickly.