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jerryaldini 02-22-2024 10:09 PM
Now go sign big game Gabe just to freak out bills fan.

BossChief 02-22-2024 10:18 PM
Added bonus:

We will surely get an additional comp pick next year for this upgrade because we aren’t going to be out signing a bunch of qualifying free agents and Tommy will get a nice deal somewhere.

I bet that ends up a 5th rounder. Absolutely BRILLIANT work by Veach and his team.

This move helps the talent, the salary cap and the draft.

Keep it up, this is a champ move.

I see you, Brett.

smithandrew051 02-22-2024 10:23 PM
Legit chance this becomes the best Kicker/Punter duo in league history

BWillie 02-22-2024 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 17414294)
God I love our players. LMAO
Resign Justin Reid at all costs

cdcox 02-22-2024 10:36 PM
IMO, it doesn’t make sense to pay top dollar for punters and kickers.

It seems that letting Townsend go for a cheaper alternative isn’t controversial.

I think a similar thought process applies to kickers. You can point to Butker and rightfully say the guy in nails going 7 for 7 on kicks over 50 yards in 2023, including playoffs. But plenty of kickers are reasonably accurate from 40 plus yards. Just trust your offense enough to gain the extra 10 yards to get within reliable FG range, rather than pay top $ for a kicker.

BossChief 02-22-2024 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 17414496)
IMO, it doesn’t make sense to pay top dollar for punters and kickers.

It seems that letting Townsend go for a cheaper alternative isn’t controversial.

I think a similar thought process applies to kickers. You can point to Butker and rightfully say the guy in nails going 7 for 7 on kicks over 50 yards in 2023, including playoffs. But plenty of kickers are reasonably accurate from 40 plus yards. Just trust your offense enough to gain the extra 10 yards to get within reliable FG range, rather than pay top $ for a kicker.
I’m not sure I agree with this, and I usually agree with you.

An elite kicker like Butker is absolutely worth the minimal cap amount.

We’re talking about 6-7m aav for a HOF kicker with a huge and accurate leg.

Ask Buffalo how much they think a kicker like that is worth…

BWillie 02-22-2024 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 17414505)
I’m not sure I agree with this, and I usually agree with you.

An elite kicker like Butker is absolutely worth the minimal cap amount.

We’re talking about 6-7m aav for a HOF kicker with a huge and accurate leg.

Ask Buffalo how much they think a kicker like that is worth…
Punters dont matter. Kickers do

Frazod 02-22-2024 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 17414505)
I’m not sure I agree with this, and I usually agree with you.

An elite kicker like Butker is absolutely worth the minimal cap amount.

We’re talking about 6-7m aav for a HOF kicker with a huge and accurate leg.

Ask Buffalo how much they think a kicker like that is worth…
I'm sure. Was anybody worried about Butker making that record breaking kick? I wasn't.

That's a guy you keep. That's a guy you pay.

IowaHawkeyeChief 02-22-2024 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17413936)
The call has been made on Townsend. He's a pending FA who hired Drew Rosenhause. He's gone.

Now there may still be a call to make between Araiza and some fungible UDFA or SFA competition - sure. And when it gets made, that's fine too.

Because all we've lost is a league average punter with consistency issues who was mis-hitting the shit out of about half his punts in the post-season. Credit to him for getting a tough snap down but there are bad snaps every single week and most holders get them down.

You know what Matt Ariaza will be doing for the 40 hours/wk his teammates are out there in pads? Learning how to hold. WTF else does he have to do?

That's why punters are almost always the holders now. Practice time limitations mean that you need your QB2 out there running scout team against your defense instead of hanging out with the STs bozos.

But your punter? He's just hanging out. So you send him out there with the long-snapper and teach him how to {checks notes} catch a snap.

It'll be fine.
He also looks athletic as hell in those videos, busting ass downfield and making tackles. He won't have any issues holding.

Tribal Warfare 02-22-2024 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17414506)
Punters dont matter. Kickers do
Never disparage the name of MVP

smithandrew051 02-22-2024 11:26 PM
We have the GOAT Kicker in his prime. Pay him what that requires.

You don’t need a great punter. Just a competent one. Townsend was fine and had upside, but was inconsistent.

Punt God has even more upside than Townsend. Even if he’s equally inconsistent, that’s a step up. And he’s cheaper.

Terrific move.

IowaHawkeyeChief 02-22-2024 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17414226)
Rape god
again, ****ing dumb...

IowaHawkeyeChief 02-22-2024 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Woogieman (Post 17414447)
Agree, and I assume that's the difference between a civil and criminal case.
the prosecutor didn't charge any of the guys in the actual gang bang... Prosecutor said she lied about her age and the acts seem consensual with the guys in the video and not coerced. Civil case will be tough for her as well. She dropped Araiza because he was suing her for defamation as it was provable that he was "Muhammad Gone'di when it occurred.

BossChief 02-22-2024 11:42 PM
These are the kinds of moves a front office makes when they are “loading for bear”.

They are going to squeeze every penny out of this salary cap in hopes of keeping this defense together. I bet the conversation behind closed doors is boiled down to “we need to find a way to keep Chris, LJ and Tranquill long term so we can attack the skill positions on offense in the draft.”

MahomesMagic 02-22-2024 11:45 PM
Veach is going to turn over every stone, including punter to load up for the 3Peat.


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