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raybec 4 02-25-2011 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by WebGem (Post 7452759)
Ummm, what the hell are you guys talking about? If you look at his 3 losses (Evans, Hendo, Silva) he was a decent sized underdog in all 3. I'd say he was a 'big' underdog (probably +200 to +280) in the first two and was probably about +140 to +160 in the Silva fight? So you're telling me a guy who's won every other fight outside of 3 that he was a decent to huge sized dog is 50/50 against anyone that he's not a big underdog against? lmfao! And don't give me any 'that was then, this is now' bullshit because that's just not true. I hate the guy too and I want Rivera to knock him the **** out but there's no way you can call this fight a coinflip.

So hopefully Rivera does win so Guardian can come back and be results oriented act like that proves I'm wrong when it's something that's not really debatable. That'll at least make me laugh.
I hear what your saying but I watched the Matt Hamill fight, Bisping lost that fight but got the decision. I haven't seen him fight anyone else who would be a top 5 guy. I honestly can't remember any other fight of his besides Dennis Kang and he is no special sauce.

WebGem 02-26-2011 10:32 PM
CMON JORGE

WebGem 02-26-2011 10:48 PM
That knew was absolutely total ****ing bullshit PLEASE WIN JORGE MAKE MY FEBRUARY FOR ME

WebGem 02-26-2011 11:24 PM
knee*

WebGem 02-26-2011 11:26 PM
Siver making jokes out of Sotiropoulos' takedown attempts was pretty impressive and Bisping is a class A scumbag

That's about it so far

WebGem 02-26-2011 11:27 PM
I literally hate seeing Bisping win 20x more than I hate seeing my favorite fighters lose

WebGem 02-26-2011 11:29 PM
LMAO @ that draw decision #cmonman

BigCatDaddy 02-26-2011 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by WebGem (Post 7455555)
LMAO @ that draw decision #cmonman
Screw the rematch. They just need to chalk that one up for Fitch and give him the title shot. Everyone including BJ knows who won that fight.

WebGem 02-26-2011 11:40 PM
Aight nobody else is here see y'all tomorrow

GO ****ING CHIEFS

TheGuardian 02-27-2011 12:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by WebGem (Post 7452759)
Ummm, what the hell are you guys talking about? If you look at his 3 losses (Evans, Hendo, Silva) he was a decent sized underdog in all 3. I'd say he was a 'big' underdog (probably +200 to +280) in the first two and was probably about +140 to +160 in the Silva fight? So you're telling me a guy who's won every other fight outside of 3 that he was a decent to huge sized dog is 50/50 against anyone that he's not a big underdog against? lmfao! And don't give me any 'that was then, this is now' bullshit because that's just not true. I hate the guy too and I want Rivera to knock him the **** out but there's no way you can call this fight a coinflip.

So hopefully Rivera does win so Guardian can come back and be results oriented act like that proves I'm wrong when it's something that's not really debatable. That'll at least make me laugh.
He lost against Hamill. I think we all know that. And he hasn't beaten any top tier fighters. Until he does, he's a second tier fighter.

And he won that fight last night off of an illegal knee then acted like a first class scumbag afterwards. I hope someone ends his career soon.

WebGem 02-27-2011 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 7456058)
He lost against Hamill. I think we all know that. And he hasn't beaten any top tier fighters. Until he does, he's a second tier fighter.

And he won that fight last night off of an illegal knee then acted like a first class scumbag afterwards. I hope someone ends his career soon.
I never said he's a top tier fighter. Why don't you re-read everything and then post again.

thecoffeeguy 02-27-2011 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 7456058)
He lost against Hamill. I think we all know that. And he hasn't beaten any top tier fighters. Until he does, he's a second tier fighter.

And he won that fight last night off of an illegal knee then acted like a first class scumbag afterwards. I hope someone ends his career soon.
He sure did. That was a bullshit decision. Home town referees at work.

Here we go.
I still remember this vividly. An all time favorite. :thumb:

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TheGuardian 02-27-2011 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by thecoffeeguy (Post 7456636)
He sure did. That was a bullshit decision. Home town referees at work.

Here we go.
I still remember this vividly. An all time favorite. :thumb:

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hah hah!

I watched that today. The whole fight. I forgot what a stupid ****ing fighter Bisping is. He circled into Hendo's power hand the whole match.

KcMizzou 02-27-2011 10:10 PM
I'm a big BJ Penn fan, my buddy hates him. Even he respected that fact that BJ basically acknowledged that Fitch probably won that fight. I'm not sure why BJ tried to beat Fitch at his own game. It caught him off guard at first, and was working well... but when Fitch adjusted, BJ should have backed off of it... and played to his own strengths. (Stay of the cage, box him... defend takedowns)

As much as I love BJ, I think he's about done. Not physically... his heart just doesn't seem to be in it any more. You could tell that from the post fight interview. He almost seems to be looking for a reason to retire.

raybec 4 02-28-2011 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by KcMizzou (Post 7456825)
I'm a big BJ Penn fan, my buddy hates him. Even he respected that fact that BJ basically acknowledged that Fitch probably won that fight. I'm not sure why BJ tried to beat Fitch at his own game. It caught him off guard at first, and was working well... but when Fitch adjusted, BJ should have backed off of it... and played to his own strengths. (Stay of the cage, box him... defend takedowns)

As much as I love BJ, I think he's about done. Not physically... his heart just doesn't seem to be in it any more. You could tell that from the post fight interview. He almost seems to be looking for a reason to retire.
He was by far the most talented BJJ practitioner in the UFC when he was in his prime. He's got a different pedigree than most fighters I think and that makes a difference. He was raised wealthy, that's kind of rare in the fight game.

TheGuardian 02-28-2011 09:11 AM
I don't think it's any of that.

BJ was great a few years ago but the fact is, competition eventually catches up to you if you're not a really tireless worker. BJ isn't a top tier guy and hasn't been for a while, but his rep still carries him as one. I mean, he just lost to Fitch who doesn't finish ANYONE and is as boring a fighter as there is in UFC. He got demolished by GSP, beat twice by Edgar. He's not one of the top 3 guys in his weight class(es) anymore.

raybec 4 02-28-2011 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 7457310)
I don't think it's any of that.

BJ was great a few years ago but the fact is, competition eventually catches up to you if you're not a really tireless worker. BJ isn't a top tier guy and hasn't been for a while, but his rep still carries him as one. I mean, he just lost to Fitch who doesn't finish ANYONE and is as boring a fighter as there is in UFC. He got demolished by GSP, beat twice by Edgar. He's not one of the top 3 guys in his weight class(es) anymore.
I couldn't bring myself to buy that PPV. I am fairly certain that it didn't matter who won either of those fights. Bisping will not beat Anderson Silva if he gets a shot, and both Penn and Fitch have been roughed up by GSP already.

ChiefsFanatic 02-28-2011 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 7457310)
I don't think it's any of that.

BJ was great a few years ago but the fact is, competition eventually catches up to you if you're not a really tireless worker. BJ isn't a top tier guy and hasn't been for a while, but his rep still carries him as one. I mean, he just lost to Fitch who doesn't finish ANYONE and is as boring a fighter as there is in UFC. He got demolished by GSP, beat twice by Edgar. He's not one of the top 3 guys in his weight class(es) anymore.
Time catches up to everyone. Hughes, apparently Fedor, Chuck. It eventually even caught Randy.

BigCatDaddy 02-28-2011 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic (Post 7457558)
Time catches up to everyone. Hughes, apparently Fedor, Chuck. It eventually even caught Randy.
It would be badass to see Randy pull out one last one and take out Machida.

raybec 4 02-28-2011 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 7457592)
It would be badass to see Randy pull out one last one and take out Machida.
That would be the shit, if he can take him down I think he may win but it will be a boring fight if thats how it goes. More likely Machida will stay on his horse and run away, defend the shot and stay out of the clinch taking pot shots.

raybec 4 03-01-2011 10:05 AM
Apparently Chael Sonnen and Vitor Belfort are calling oout Bisping for their next fight

SAUTO 03-01-2011 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 7459778)
Apparently Chael Sonnen and Vitor Belfort are calling oout Bisping for their next fight
bisping better shy away from vitor IMO.


he will be dead if not

raybec 4 03-01-2011 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 7459874)
bisping better shy away from vitor IMO.


he will be dead if not
Chael would destroy him too, Bisping is the guy that can beat all the lower level fighters but get's it handed to him by top guys. Kinda like the Kenny Florian of 185

thecoffeeguy 03-01-2011 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 7459778)
Apparently Chael Sonnen and Vitor Belfort are calling oout Bisping for their next fight
Both would destroy Bisping.

Bisping would get KTFO by Vitor.

Chael would just ruin him for 3 rounds, making him a bloody mess.

TheGuardian 03-01-2011 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by thecoffeeguy (Post 7460207)
Both would destroy Bisping.

Bisping would get KTFO by Vitor.

Chael would just ruin him for 3 rounds, making him a bloody mess.
Oh God damn I would pay 2X the PPV movie for a Vitor vs Bisping fight.

raybec 4 03-01-2011 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 7460374)
Oh God damn I would pay 2X the PPV movie for a Vitor vs Bisping fight.
Deal, just make sure one of them goes to my UVerse account

TheGuardian 03-01-2011 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 7460424)
Deal, just make sure one of them goes to my UVerse account
If you weren't in Springfield I'd just say we could split the cost and throw down a few.

I went to Fox and Hound this past one so I didn't have to pay but $5. Think Imma start doing that more often. Saves me some dough, I get to have a few, and I usually bring several women. It's good timez.

SAUTO 03-01-2011 08:06 PM
where its f and h? Good spot?
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Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 7461242)
If you weren't in Springfield I'd just say we could split the cost and throw down a few.

I went to Fox and Hound this past one so I didn't have to pay but $5. Think Imma start doing that more often. Saves me some dough, I get to have a few, and I usually bring several women. It's good timez.
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TheGuardian 03-02-2011 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 7461253)
where its f and h? Good spot?
Posted via Mobile Device
Yeah man it's $5 to get. They have some food and drank. Some good some bad but it's a good time. It's right there at Metcalf and 103rd in that shopping center.

Pants 03-02-2011 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 7462029)
Yeah man it's $5 to get. They have some food and drank. Some good some bad but it's a good time. It's right there at Metcalf and 103rd in that shopping center.
I used to go there all the time for UFC events. The food, generally speaking, is complete garbage there, but that's not why you go. Anyway, I stopped going there since Shogun introduced me to the HD stream from XME Forums for $3.50. Just can't beat that shit.

TheGuardian 03-02-2011 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Pants (Post 7462072)
I used to go there all the time for UFC events. The food, generally speaking, is complete garbage there, but that's not why you go. Anyway, I stopped going there since Shogun introduced me to the HD stream from XME Forums for $3.50. Just can't beat that shit.
Well I have generally go with some friends (women) and have a few drinks. More about getting out and just having fun now really.

Pants 03-02-2011 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 7462625)
Well I have generally go with some friends (women) and have a few drinks. More about getting out and just having fun now really.
Yeah, I hear you. I can do that any time, UFC nights have always been about the fights. None of my friends are hardcore MMA fans and neither is my girl. I love being able to sit at home and watch the fights without dropping $50 on them.

TheGuardian 03-02-2011 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Pants (Post 7462632)
Yeah, I hear you. I can do that any time, UFC nights have always been about the fights. None of my friends are hardcore MMA fans and neither is my girl. I love being able to sit at home and watch the fights without dropping $50 on them.
Well I just did this one. I just appreciated not dropping $50 on the fights when I wasn't super interesting in the card. :)

Jerm 03-03-2011 12:55 AM
Sanchez vs. Kampmann tomorrow night...ought to be a good fight.

Don't know about the rest of the card, I guess Dolloway v. Munoz has potential.

raybec 4 03-03-2011 07:18 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerm (Post 7463803)
Sanchez vs. Kampmann tomorrow night...ought to be a good fight.

Don't know about the rest of the card, I guess Dolloway v. Munoz has potential.
I like Diego, he's wierd and flaky but he's got a ton of heart and he fights his heart out in almost every fight I've seen him in ( except Hathaway) but I doubt he'll ever get to that level of winning a belt.

raybec 4 03-04-2011 10:34 AM
There were some good fights on the card, Sanchez and Kampmann really kicked each others asses and Munoz KO'd Dolloway although you could argue against the decision and the stoppage

thecoffeeguy 03-04-2011 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 7466202)
There were some good fights on the card, Sanchez and Kampmann really kicked each others asses and Munoz KO'd Dolloway although you could argue against the decision and the stoppage
Holy crap.

Did you see Diegos face? Jeebezus!

The Poz 03-04-2011 11:55 AM
http://www.ufc.com/media/uvs3-sanchez-kampmann-winner

Sanchez is an idiot. Too many knuckle sandwiches.

WebGem 03-05-2011 04:46 PM
Coenen/feijao parlay sound about right?

Shogun 03-05-2011 04:52 PM
I think Hendo is gonna win by decision, but I'd agree on Coenen

and I'd parlay the whole card too, some big money to be made with taking Melvin>Kennedy and Billy Evangelista > Jorge Masvidal

WebGem 03-05-2011 07:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shogun (Post 7469019)
I think Hendo is gonna win by decision, but I'd agree on Coenen

and I'd parlay the whole card too, some big money to be made with taking Melvin>Kennedy and Billy Evangelista > Jorge Masvidal
OMG I'M SO HAPPY RIGHT NOW. THE NEW TAPATALK IPHONE UPDATE LET'S ME QUOTE POSTS!!!!

Anyways yeah I dunno I am not gonna take Hendo at -200 which is the price I saw yesterday at Bellagio.

WebGem 03-05-2011 09:52 PM
Kennedy with the quick sub and then calls out Robbie Lawler.

WebGem 03-05-2011 10:15 PM
holy shit lol

WebGem 03-05-2011 10:25 PM
coenen was getting ****ing raped the whole fight but i figured she'd find a way somehow

at least she didn't wait 5 seconds too long to let go like vs kaufman

Shogun 03-05-2011 11:05 PM
**** yeah hendo

Shogun 03-05-2011 11:30 PM
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-L...0Y/s1600/6.gif

raybec 4 03-07-2011 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Shogun (Post 7469603)
**** yeah hendo
I am amazed people keep counting Hendo out. The Jake Shields fight was a fluke, I believe he beats Shields in 8 out of 10 fights. Anderson Silva beat him but he's Anderson Silva

WebGem 03-11-2011 12:35 AM
I got Shogun +185 at Bellagio yesterday. SHIP THE ****IN MONIES

raybec 4 03-11-2011 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by WebGem (Post 7481717)
I got Shogun +185 at Bellagio yesterday. SHIP THE ****IN MONIES
Jones is tough, athletic and super talented, If Shogun shows up in shape he's almost unbeatable, it will be awesome should be a great fight.

TheGuardian 03-11-2011 09:53 AM
If Shogun is healthy he should own Jones. I like Jones too, I just don't think he's ready for Shogun is Shogun is on his A game.

BigCatDaddy 03-11-2011 10:28 AM
I know I'll be in the minority here, but I think Jones owns Shogun in this fight. Jones is the next big thing and Shogun is the last step on that ladder to the top.

Sfeihc 03-11-2011 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 7482239)
If Shogun is healthy he should own Jones. I like Jones too, I just don't think he's ready for Shogun is Shogun is on his A game.
Me thinks Shogun on his A game is the only guy at 205 that has a chance with Bones.

raybec 4 03-11-2011 01:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 7482296)
I know I'll be in the minority here, but I think Jones owns Shogun in this fight. Jones is the next big thing and Shogun is the last step on that ladder to the top.
I don't see a scenario where either of them is dominant UNLESS Shogun's knee is not right. Bones is a bad man and if Shogun's not healthy.....

BigCatDaddy 03-11-2011 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 7482752)
I don't see a scenario where either of them is dominant UNLESS Shogun's knee is not right. Bones is a bad man and if Shogun's not healthy.....
That's a lot of time off to get thrown in with a guy like Jones that has a type of side, speed and athletism that can't be duplicated in training. If Shogun would be coming off of a couple of title defenses in the last year over top guys I might think differently.

TheGuardian 03-11-2011 01:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 7482296)
I know I'll be in the minority here, but I think Jones owns Shogun in this fight. Jones is the next big thing and Shogun is the last step on that ladder to the top.
Owns? Yeah, you're on crack. If Shogun is healthy he'll be fine.

SAUTO 03-11-2011 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 7482858)
Owns? Yeah, you're on crack. If Shogun is healthy he'll be fine.
THIS

BigCatDaddy 03-11-2011 04:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 7482858)
Owns? Yeah, you're on crack. If Shogun is healthy he'll be fine.
I'm just thinking we are going to have one of those Edgar/Penn 1 or Silva/Sonnen moments where you are liked "Damn, I really didn't see that ass kicking coming".

I think Jones get's him down and grounds and pounds him into ref stoppage.

TheGuardian 03-11-2011 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 7483373)
I'm just thinking we are going to have one of those Edgar/Penn 1 or Silva/Sonnen moments where you are liked "Damn, I really didn't see that ass kicking coming".

I think Jones get's him down and grounds and pounds him into ref stoppage.
OMG


No. You're homerism for jones is blinding you.

BigCatDaddy 03-11-2011 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 7483387)
OMG


No. You're homerism for jones is blinding you.
It's possible, but the guy has put on some dominating performances against each guy they put in front of him so it's hard to beleive the hype. He reminds me a lot of GSP coming up, of course he had to lose to Hughes once before getting over that hump, so maybe the same happens here. I just think we are in for a surprise.

It's not that I don't like Shogun, I just think we are seeing something special in Jones.

CoMoChief 03-11-2011 04:33 PM
Jones is gonna kick Shogun's ass.

CoMoChief 03-11-2011 04:34 PM
and look for Lesnar to stomp JDS's ass too when they fight this summer.

SAUTO 03-11-2011 05:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 7483373)
I'm just thinking we are going to have one of those Edgar/Penn 1 or Silva/Sonnen moments where you are liked "Damn, I really didn't see that ass kicking coming".

I think Jones get's him down and grounds and pounds him into ref stoppage.
this is what i DONT see happening.

it could, but i dont see it.

SAUTO 03-11-2011 05:23 PM
ricardo arona..... nuff said about shogun's abilities

WebGem 03-11-2011 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 7482088)
Jones is tough, athletic and super talented, If Shogun shows up in shape he's almost unbeatable, it will be awesome should be a great fight.
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 7482239)
If Shogun is healthy he should own Jones. I like Jones too, I just don't think he's ready for Shogun is Shogun is on his A game.
This basically, minus the Shogun being unbeatable, Jones definitely has a chance even if Shogun is healthy. All things considered I can't imagine 1.8-1 odds on Shogun not having value. Plus I don't really care, I love Shogun too much to not bet on him in this fight even though I'd be rooting for him big time anyways. The only thing that sucks about this fight is that it's a Bones fight where I can't root for him, lol.

TheGuardian 03-11-2011 06:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 7483457)
and look for Lesnar to stomp JDS's ass too when they fight this summer.
Except for the fact that LEsnar can't take a punch, and JDS well, he hits kinda hard.

MadMax 03-11-2011 07:11 PM
I wanna see Faber vs Wineland Yea I like Faber! :)

WebGem 03-12-2011 12:32 PM
Zuffa bought strikeforce? WTF? Uhhh, ok..

WebGem 03-12-2011 12:33 PM
Dana White thinks hes Vince McMahon lmao

WebGem 03-12-2011 12:37 PM
To me this pretty much means MMA is on the decline

TrickyNicky 03-12-2011 12:40 PM
Wow. I wonder if he will try the separate promotion route.

WebGem 03-12-2011 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by TrickyNicky (Post 7485307)
Wow. I wonder if he will try the separate promotion route.
Yeah then he can have a Bragging Rights PPV like WWE but it will actually have Bragging Rights. ROFL

Seriously though, I really dunno. I haven't listened to his interview yet because I've been doing something else for the past 20 mins when I found out. Did he say anything about that in there?

TrickyNicky 03-12-2011 12:54 PM
Its just speculation at this point. Even if he keeps them split, I wouldn't give it more than a year before it is absorbed into the UFC anyway.

Shogun 03-12-2011 12:55 PM
There goes my press passes, Zuffa won't authorize me.

Hopefully since Coker and crew are still running it, they will continue to approve me :D

WebGem 03-12-2011 12:57 PM
This is unreal

WebGem 03-12-2011 01:04 PM
http://www.mmafighting.com/2011/03/1...s-strikeforce/

the interview

TrickyNicky 03-12-2011 01:15 PM
Can't listen to the interview but heres a summary from someone who has...

Quote:
Some key points:
"Ive never had a bad thing to say about Scott Coker" - Dana. LMAO!
Strikeforce will continue to run separately. Business as usual almost as if nothing has changed.
Strikeforce will honor its contract with its fighters and Showtime.
Possible to UFC fighters to go to Strikeforce. Dana didn't say if Strikeforce fighters will crossover. Fedor was specifically mentioned in this regard....he will stay in SF.
Signing of Pride was a bigger deal
Women will remain on SF roster.
Deal happened b/c UFC needed more fights.
Strikeforce's relationship with FEG will continue. Coker takes care of that...not Dana.
I'm glad it will remain its own promotion, but I still don't think it will be a lasting thing.

SAUTO 03-12-2011 01:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TrickyNicky (Post 7485352)
Can't listen to the interview but heres a summary from someone who has...



I'm glad it will remain its own promotion, but I still don't think it will be a lasting thing.
yep dana will not be able to keep his hands out of it.

but i would like to see fedor at LHW against everyone available.

fedor will probably retire now though, i think he REALLY hates dana.

i wonder what will happen with the HW tourn. now?

can brock enter it please?

WebGem 03-12-2011 01:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 7485366)
yep dana will not be able to keep his hands out of it.

but i would like to see fedor at LHW against everyone available.

fedor will probably retire now though, i think he REALLY hates dana.

i wonder what will happen with the HW tourn. now?

can brock enter it please?
brock lesnar is a ****ing joke

SAUTO 03-12-2011 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by WebGem (Post 7485370)
brock lesnar is a ****ing joke
my point exactly.

kcxiv 03-12-2011 01:58 PM
Fedor is done. He's looked like crap anyways, So it doesnt really matter anymore. Everyone falls off at some point. some way earlier then others in this case.


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