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CaliforniaChief 08-31-2009 11:44 AM
Some of these comments are amazing. Everyone yells and moans about how we want a championship team, but when the new leaders are bold enough to make unconventional decisions and dump a guy who wasn't working out as an OC, people get indignant. So Thigpen got better with a spread offense. We won 2 games last year. 2!!! So this whole "You'd better be right, Haley" stuff is hilarious. Better be right or what? Go back to the safe days of Paul Hackett and Gunther Cunningham?

1ChiefsDan 08-31-2009 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 6018153)
Dude..... The Chiefs axed a holdover from an old regime. Do you think Cassel's going to demand a trade now, the way that Nancy Cutler did?

If not, you really need to know when to just STFU.
Problem is Knowmo doesn't know shit. His football knowledge is worse that Goatcheese's.

booger 08-31-2009 11:45 AM
just a few notes: Joe D’Alessandris was with Gailey at GT so who knows if he will stay on or not.

Bicknell, Carthon, Muir, all have OC experience as does Defensive Q/c coach Pat Perles. So does asst GM Joel Collier. Mostly as a RB coach but was promoted to OC by Dave Wandstedt at Miami but had to give that up because of a serious illness that offseason.

Also training camp intern coaches Ritchie Anderson(TE's, WR's RB) and Anthony Pleasant (DE and OLB) are still with the team as far as i can tell from the games. It wouldn't be a big suprise to see them added for the regular season if needed. Both are Parcells and Belichick guys and former players.

check out the bios

http://www.kcchiefs.com/directory/

DJJasonp 08-31-2009 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 6018200)
Some of these comments are amazing. Everyone yells and moans about how we want a championship team, but when the new leaders are bold enough to make unconventional decisions and dump a guy who wasn't working out as an OC, people get indignant. So Thigpen got better with a spread offense. We won 2 games last year. 2!!! So this whole "You'd better be right, Haley" stuff is hilarious. Better be right or what? Go back to the safe days of Paul Hackett and Gunther Cunningham?
You must not have read my whole post.... I LIKE the approach.

My main point is - rookie head coaches are not given the same amount of time to "get it right" than other coaches with the same "hard-headed" approach (parcells, coughlin, cowher).

CaliforniaChief 08-31-2009 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by DJJasonp (Post 6018209)
You must not have read my whole post.... I LIKE the approach.

My main point is - rookie head coaches are not given the same amount of time to "get it right" than other coaches with the same "hard-headed" approach (parcells, coughlin, cowher).
I wasn't banging on you, man....just those who act like the sky is falling. Yeah, the Herm-painted sky is falling.

DaneMcCloud 08-31-2009 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by DJJasonp (Post 6018194)
Dane mentioned... "live by the sword, die by the sword"... I agree and I like that approach as well.

The only thing that worries me with this is that this Haley project is an all or nothing move (in a relatively short time-frame).

If you're a bill parcells, or even a Tom Coughlin....you can come into a new team, kick some asses around....fire people, do whatever you want.

But - when you're a rookie head coach - you're not going to get the same time-frame to show improvements as a Parcells or Coughlin, or Cowher for that matter.

So I say to Haley....you'd better be right.....and be more right than wrong - quickly.
He signed a five year deal (as did Pioli). I think he'll get every bit of that time to try and improve this team.

He's going to need it...

DJJasonp 08-31-2009 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 6018214)
I wasn't banging on you, man....just those who act like the sky is falling. Yeah, the Herm-painted sky is falling.
cool...

I like that our organization grew a pair in the offseason.

I just hope this is "the one" with Haley....cause the approach can backfire (more often with rookie HC's).

philfree 08-31-2009 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by DJJasonp (Post 6018209)
You must not have read my whole post.... I LIKE the approach.

My main point is - rookie head coaches are not given the same amount of time to "get it right" than other coaches with the same "hard-headed" approach (parcells, coughlin, cowher).
Unless they are buddies with the new GM and his first hire. Haley's safe through 2010 I would think.

PhilFree:arrow:

patteeu 08-31-2009 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 6018200)
Some of these comments are amazing. Everyone yells and moans about how we want a championship team, but when the new leaders are bold enough to make unconventional decisions and dump a guy who wasn't working out as an OC, people get indignant. So Thigpen got better with a spread offense. We won 2 games last year. 2!!! So this whole "You'd better be right, Haley" stuff is hilarious. Better be right or what? Go back to the safe days of Paul Hackett and Gunther Cunningham?
The "or what" is that he will lose the team, not the fans. Of course, once he loses the team, he's going to lose the fans too, but that wasn't the point.

DJJasonp 08-31-2009 11:51 AM
Just to be a bit of devil's advocate here....

WOuld you guys be willing to wait 5 years for the chiefs to make the playoffs again??

(where the current NFL it's not uncommon to go from worst to first in a year or so)

??

Hammock Parties 08-31-2009 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6018183)
I saw it.

Do you have a gif of Goff getting pancaked by Leroy Hill?

Unreal.
Did he get pancaked by Hill, TOO?

I saw Jesus Curry nail Goff.

nychief 08-31-2009 11:54 AM
I would not be surprised to see Mike Cox released tomorrow... Chan was his college coach.

Coogs 08-31-2009 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6018189)
I think it's way too early to make that call.
Maybe, but I just see things out of the defense that I didn't see that much the last few years. Dicipline for one. Yes we have a long ways to go on defense. But I already see improvement.

DaneMcCloud 08-31-2009 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6018233)
Did he get pancaked by Hill, TOO?

I saw Jesus Curry nail Goff.
Yeah. Second series, I think. Goff pulled left and Hill trashed him.

rockymtnchief 08-31-2009 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by nychief (Post 6018240)
I would not be surprised to see Mike Cox released tomorrow... Chan was his college coach.
I wouldn't doubt it. He hasn't elevated his game from last year. I really had hopes he would.


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