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WilliamTheIrish 09-20-2009 02:21 PM

Two things? No. A hundred things killed us.

1) Haley, Cassel and Savage conspiring together to take 3 points off the board. There are three very simple decisions that needed to be made on that play. Kick the FG or throw it away in the EZ or OB. All three of these idiots share blame.

2) The two picks.

3) No pass rush. AT. ALL.

4) Dropped passes in crucial situations.

No pass rush. AT. ALL.

Just a terrible defensive effort in crunch time. Horrible effort.

RNR 09-20-2009 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 6092456)
yes it is. the slide has to be FEET FIRST

That same penalty will be called everytime. He was on the ground and TWO defenders piled on him. They over protect QBs today

R&GHomer 09-20-2009 02:39 PM

The late personal foul was bullshit. He didn't slide, wasn't touched by a chiefs player. He could have gotten back up and ran with the ball. He was fair game. Bullshit call, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit. He fell over his own guy.

donkhater 09-20-2009 02:42 PM

Another aspect of that FG before the half is the two waste TO's early in the game. Clearly one of them was Jake O'Connell's fault. the other appeared to be Haley's for not getting the play in on time.

Another TO there would've been useful.

KC did about everything they had to do to lose playing that well against a shitty opponent.

LaChapelle 09-20-2009 02:42 PM

The facemask call on Savage was a bit suspect.

Red Dawg 09-20-2009 02:45 PM

No pash rush is the blame for the loss. The other is Cassel's two picks and the brain fart before the half.

R&GHomer 09-20-2009 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by donkhater (Post 6092756)
Another aspect of that FG before the half is the two waste TO's early in the game. Clearly one of them was Jake O'Connell's fault. the other appeared to be Haley's for not getting the play in on time.

Another TO there would've been useful.

KC did about everything they had to do to lose playing that well against a shitty opponent.

Yep

Manila-Chief 09-20-2009 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by R&GHomer (Post 6092720)
The late personal foul was bullshit. He didn't slide, wasn't touched by a chiefs player. He could have gotten back up and ran with the ball. He was fair game. Bullshit call, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit. He fell over his own guy.

Yes, but the rookie needs to learn that he can "touch" players when they are on the ground.

Mecca 09-20-2009 02:47 PM

The late hit call it just part of how the league wants games called the refs called it like they're told to.

Manila-Chief 09-20-2009 02:48 PM

I was on the phone with my daughter (wife on the other end), I had to hang up after the penalty. I was sick!!!

But, look on the other side ... if Oakland had a decent QB we would not have had a chance. The defense held only because of Russel.

Going to be a very long season.

R&GHomer 09-20-2009 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Manila-Chief (Post 6092795)
Yes, but the rookie needs to learn that he can "touch" players when they are on the ground.

True, but as I understand the rules that was a legal hit. I can see how they called it, but they were wrong. Just like if a qb is running in space and doesn't slide feet first he's an open target. The rules are the rules.

All that said, we didn't deserve to win this game. Horrible mistakes, just stupid. I think the 0 pass rush on 3 and 15 was inexcusable.

RNR 09-20-2009 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by R&GHomer (Post 6092862)
True, but as I understand the rules that was a legal hit. I can see how they called it, but they were wrong. Just like if a qb is running in space and doesn't slide feet first he's an open target. The rules are the rules.

All that said, we didn't deserve to win this game. Horrible mistakes, just stupid. I think the 0 pass rush on 3 and 15 was inexcusable.

I do not agree with the way they protect QBs however with this: (Additions
In addition to roughing the passer, defensive players cannot strike the quarterback below the knees or in the head. Officials may call a roughing the passer penalty if they feel the quarterback's safety is in jeopardy.) added to the rule book they will call that everytime.

Demonpenz 09-20-2009 03:04 PM

I don't think the league does enough to protect the qb, trent greens slide/hit wasn't even a flag

KCBOSS1 09-20-2009 03:40 PM

The rule is a bad rule, but it wasn't the brightest thing to dive on him like that....all you got to do is touch him. Come on

Jethopper 09-20-2009 03:43 PM

How about the costly drop by Flowers of a sure pick 6.........


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