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Bane 09-20-2009 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by KcMizzou (Post 6094426)
Maybe we do only win 3-4 games this season... fine. It's not just about this season.

Its never just about this season.Thats pee wee bullshit!!!

donkhater 09-20-2009 08:29 PM

Fans of the Chiefs would do themselves a great service to disconnect themselves from the success of this team as it relates to wins and lossses. To think that his team was to look and perform like an average team this early in the season was wishful thinking.

I was encouraged by their performance in Baltimore. Despite being clearly out manned, they made smart decisions, played relatively error free, smart football.

I think that smart team is lurking in this squad and Haley will pull it out of them. I'd be (and may very will be) discouraged if the same thing is happening after the bye week. I think Cassel is clearly an upgrade at QB. As he gets healthier and the offense begins to mesh more, I think we will see a good, decent squad on that side of the ball. World beaters? No. But solid.

The other side of the ball is just outmanned. No amount of scheming can make up for the lack of speed, strength and talent. If Haley and Pioli had to start from scratch, one might think that Flowers, Carr and Jackson would be the only current starters that they would definitely pick out to keep. Everyone else can be upgraded. They need playmakers in the worst way.

milkman 09-20-2009 08:31 PM

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Some fault also lies at the feet of Dantrell Savage, who was unable to get out of bounds at the end of the first half.
No, dumbass (whoever you are), none of the fault lies at Savages feet.

He gave a yeoman's effort to get out of bounds, but had no chance.

The fault there lies squarely, and solely, at Cassel's feet.

That is simply not a pass that should have ever been thrown.

You throw the ball the end zone, or you throw the ball away.

It was a piss poor decision, and by far his biggest mental error.

Mecca 09-20-2009 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6094429)
We have a much better chance this coming week than we do in the following 5. Both these teams playing tonight will hand us our ass.

I think that being a game in Philly is the biggest problem, I don't think Philly is gonna drop back to back home games.

Bane 09-20-2009 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6094458)
No, dumbass (whoever you are), none of the fault lies at Savages feet.

He gave a yeoman's effort to get out of bounds, but had no chance.

The fault there lies squarely, and solely, at Cassel's feet.

That is simply not a pass that should have ever been thrown.

You throw the ball the end zone, or you throw the ball away.

It was a piss poor decision, and by far his biggest mental error.

Careful the Casselites will attempt to hang you for this one!!!ROFL

Mama Hip Rockets 09-20-2009 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by KcMizzou (Post 6094401)
People are insanely unrealistic. :shake:

is it insanely unrealistic to think the chiefs can beat the mother****ing oakland raiders at home?

milkman 09-20-2009 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by bane_58 (Post 6094467)
Careful the Casselites will attempt to hang you for this one!!!ROFL

Doesn't matter.

People can't seem to look at the games with an objective eye.

Cassel did some good things and some bad things.

DJ's left nut 09-20-2009 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by donkhater (Post 6094446)
they need playmakers in the worst way.

It all comes down to this, really.

The NFL has become a playmaker's league. If you don't have a legitimate game-changer on both sides of the ball, you're spinning your wheels.

The Chiefs don't have anyone on either side, IMO. In reality, I don't even see anybody with that kind of potential.

Flowers can be a Pro-Bowl CB, but he won't be Asomugha, he won't be Woodson in his prime. He's not going to be a guy that shuts down a passing game, makes a pick and runs it back, IMO. He'll be more like Surtain when Pat was in his prime. A great player, but needs a Jason Taylor with him.

On offense, I just don't see it happening with Bowe. I think we see what we're going to get with him. He'll have a 1300 yd season or two, but he's not going to be among the elite at any point. Cassel isn't that guy either. We really don't have a consistent playmaker anywhere on this team.

It's a paradox. The team's closer to being respectable than I thought, yet somehow further away from being a legit contender than I though...if that makes any sense.

Bane 09-20-2009 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by thurman merman (Post 6094473)
is it insanely unrealistic to think the chiefs can beat the mother****ing oakland raiders at home?

Thank you! Clearly its insane to think we can win a home opener....I guess were supposed to think we cant win at all so when we do its a big friggn surprise.ROFL

DeezNutz 09-20-2009 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6094461)
I think that being a game in Philly is the biggest problem, I don't think Philly is gonna drop back to back home games.

Any road game is a huge problem for this team. But they didn't play scared in Baltimore, so I expect to see a composed group in Philly.

Hammock Parties 09-20-2009 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6094495)
Any road game is a huge problem for this team. But they didn't play scared in Baltimore, so I expect to see a composed group in Philly.

I think our offensive line is going to get completely destroyed.

It's gonna take a miracle not to lose by 3 scores.

boogblaster 09-20-2009 08:42 PM

The ball at the half should never been thrown, called or anything, the correct call was kick the field goal ... The offense shot themseleves in the foot on two many false starts ... plus the last drive by the fade shouldn't have been allowed .....

milkman 09-20-2009 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by boogblaster (Post 6094525)
The ball at the half should never been thrown, called or anything, the correct call was kick the field goal ... The offense shot themseleves in the foot on two many false starts ... plus the last drive by the fade shouldn't have been allowed .....

There were 14 seconds on the clock when the ball was snapped on that play.

That is enough time to take two shots to the EZ, but only to the EZ.

Bane 09-20-2009 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6094487)
Doesn't matter.

People can't seem to look at the games with an objective eye.

Cassel did some good things and some bad things.

I'll give you that and I agree he did some good and some bad.He shouldn't get all the blame but he's supposed the be the leader and the leader always get the blame.

DJ's left nut 09-20-2009 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6094532)
There were 14 seconds on the clock when the ball was snapped on that play.

That is enough time to take two shots to the EZ, but only to the EZ.

Agreed, this isn't high school.

In the NFL, you have to be able to trust that your QB is not going to do something that MFing stupid. That close to the end zone, it's easy to just fire it out the back without fear of a penalty. There was no excuse for a dump into the flats.

That was on Cassel all the way. I like the aggressive coaching by a staff that is trying to win its players over. It was stunningly poor execution by Cassel.


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