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Buehler445 11-14-2021 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 15955937)
Agree with that. But this is a Raiders team still finding itself without its leading receiver (and only effective deep threat) and head coach. They're not remotely at equilibrium.

Still, the defense dominated today. Looked amazing.

They lack some playmakers, but that OL is still good, and you saw when we didn't get pressure Carr can sling it.

But we fisted those fools. :rockon:

staylor26 11-14-2021 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 15955962)
It was always a player and talent problem. Frank, Reed and Jones getting off their asses and doing shit and Ingram coming in.

Pressure has changed everything

Ding ding ding.

The stats aren’t even necessary. This defense passes the eye test because they’re now getting pressure on the QB while not getting gashed in the run game. That’s a recipe for success.

TwistedChief 11-14-2021 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 15955947)
Yeah, I've thought for weeks the defensive numbers had to average out some... play teams that can score 30ppg, give up 30+ppg. And do that for 5 of 7 weeks, your defense is going to look terrible.

Get closer to the average NFL offense, they suddenly look better.

Of course, they've looked especially bad at times and still looked bad against the Eagles and what not, so not trying to take away from the improvement.... but, it was also bound to happen against all the cries of "historically bad!!!!"

It's not hard to understand.

Clark was hurt but it took time for him to come back and now he's playing much better.

Gay was hurt and he's our best LBer.

Jones was hurt and is now playing more DT where he's elite.

Ward was hurt and he's much better than Hughes.

Sorenson seeing the field a lot less.

Ingram is an upgrade over Okafor and Danna.

Sneed is finding his groove again.

Individually, meh. But collectively they pretty clearly explain the improvement.

Why Not? 11-14-2021 10:33 PM

Defense has been great lately. Do it again next week and the rest of the league will start shitting themselves.

RINGLEADER 11-14-2021 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15955846)
3 straight good performances. All under 20 pts.

The young guys are starting to gel and the veterans are playing much better ball.

Everybody calling for Spags to be fired is dumb.


We're the number 2 scoring defense over the past 5 weeks.

Lzen 11-14-2021 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ThyKingdomCome15 (Post 15955968)
We had a lot of new faces coming into this season. They were on the same page tonight. Mahomes took a huge step mentally. Offensive line played great even with Wylie.

Melvin Ingram brought a spark to this team too. Just what we needed. Huge trade by Veach.

Wylie was not good. But everything else you said s correct.

Coach 11-14-2021 10:36 PM

They did a good job on nullifying Waller and Renfrow.

BWillie 11-14-2021 10:41 PM

Im still mad Sorenson stole Thornhills int ��

Im sure Thornhill was like this guy needs it more than I do

dirk digler 11-14-2021 10:42 PM

Let's see what happens next week against a real offense with 2 stud WR's and one of the hottest QB's in the league.

But they definitely have been playing alot better the last 3 weeks.

ThyKingdomCome15 11-14-2021 10:43 PM

The defense kept our season alive. Major kudos. Tons of positives.

tredadda 11-14-2021 10:45 PM

Honestly this defense was never going to be top 5. As long as they are not a severe liability this team will be tough to beat, especially when the offense clicks.

Pasta Little Brioni 11-14-2021 10:45 PM

Holding them to 14 on the road is impressive. Carr was on pace for over 5k and shit his pants good tonight. Their run gane did absolutely nothing.

KC_Connection 11-14-2021 10:47 PM

I still don’t think they are good but if they are even mediocre instead of league worst, that’s good enough to make the team a contender. The signs are there they can be mediocre.

petegz28 11-14-2021 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 15956089)
I still don’t think they are good but if they are even mediocre instead of league worst, that’s good enough to make the team a contender. The signs are there they can be mediocre.

I've been as hard on the defense as anyone but the fact is they've held teams to 14 points or less the last few games. That's good no matter how you cut it up.

tyecopeland 11-14-2021 10:50 PM

Not having to stop a team on a short field multiple times also helped.


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