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SJ39 is probably out for this week, and maybe next. But Cadillac and Norwood are backing up. Amendola is probably out till Week 10.

Bartell fractured his ****ing neck in two places. Rams only have 3 CBs right now.

Being in Ramsland I know it was a tough week for stl. Bradford > Cassel though and he should play Monday night.

Everyone was going down left and right at the game. Scary shit.

why do we always have to suck?

KC sports is cursed. I blame Carl/Allard/Marv/Mackovic/Pena/Muser/Bell/Gansz/Muir/Haley/Herm

ill ride w you

seriously. what did you guys do after 1985? bury a tribe of gypsies underneath arrowhead and royals parking lot?

I was was glad to see Newton light the candle, I felt as Gruden does about Newton. You put him in the right offense and he's gonna move the ball. But he's not gonna carry that team yet. The Texans are good, but the defense isn't as good as what you saw there last week. The Colts' Manning makes that OL look good - it's been said, doubted, debated, I think the verdict is in. The Colts are aging in the wrong areas - QB and pass rush. They may not be as bad as the Chiefs, then again they probly are without Manning. The Browns are the only team that may actually have a better record tan the Chiefs when it's done. I don't know, I'm just guessing that if the season were ending in a few weeks, these teams all look to be in the Luck sweepstakes ahead of the Chiefs.

What phase of grief about the Chiefs season are we all in now? Bargaining?

I'm not sure. Seems like it doesn't it?

The Royals were still good up to 1989. Unfortunately the A's were unstoppable then.

Moneyball

How shitty it was in MLB back then, Royals had the second best record in baseball and didn't make the playoffs. Same thing in 1993 with San Francisco and Atlanta.

At least most of the board is well past denial.

Thank God for the wild card now... even though we haven't qualified for that yet since.

1994 we would have made the playoffs if it wasn't for the strike. Not to mention our pitching staff would have made some noise in the playoffs - Appier, Cone, and Gordon.

Things lost. Luckily for me I actually believe my Royals are going to make waves and compete for the playoffs next year once we have some more starting pitching.

/homer.

LMAO

Yes. I would MUCH rather KC be like Carolina and not like that shitty team in Pittsburgh. I mean, the Steelers NEVER pick first.. they suck!

Chiefs fans are so defeatist.

Thank you. I am not liking this growing idea that Haley and Cassel are linked together. If you want to say that his offseason decision calls for a firing, fine. I don't agree but whatever, atleast thats something Haley did.

All the stuff about Haley having lost the team, or Haley forcing Weiss out, its all assumptions made by people who had their minds made up prior to the "news". I don't know if he lost the team or not, but I didn't really see it Sunday. I just saw a team that wasn't prepared, gave the ball away, lost a HUGE player, and got down early. Have an offense not built to come back, and you get a blow out.

This. I am as down as I have been after 1 game in the season. Atleast going into crappy seasons you knew. I wasn't expecting a trip to the AFC Championship, but I was hoping we could fight for the Division. All things combined tough to have hope. THAT being said, going to be rooting for them to win on Sunday. If we get to the point where the season is officically lost, then I might start thinking about the draft. Too far away.

I'll be cheering for the Chiefs every week this year. But if/when they lose, I won't be getting too down about it. Maybe those 3 years from '07-'09 desensitized me to losing, but I don't get nearly as down about losing as I used to. Or maybe it's that I finally saw the writing on the wall that Cassel won't ever lead us to a SB and it'll take a shit season to get rid of him. Either way, I'm not gunna worry too much about a crap Chiefs season, because I think/hope it'll help fix a lot of things that have been wrong with this franchise for a long time (lack of a stud QB, not spending the money they have to get some quality depth, etc.). If it turns out to be a great season, that's fine. But after seeing our game vs. Buffalo and looking at the schedule, I just don't see this team winning many games. I've accepted it and hope for a brighter future.

I definitely still want and expect to see them win.
The FO can't fold the tent here. Shit happens...do your best to mitigate the damage and press forward.

After burying RedThat, now we have more reeruns popping up wanting to lose out and it's suddenly OK.

I wanted the Chiefs to win every game since I've been a fan, even during the Herm years, I'll do the same this year and every year after. **** rooting for a higher draft pick, things don't always work out the way you want them to.

Yep, let's see how they handle adversity. If they have the attitude of many of the posters here, yes it will be an ugly season.

The one time in recent history that they picked in the top 10, they picked a franchise QB. Seemed to work out okay for them.

Of course I want them to win. I want to kick every teams ass 50-0 every year for the rest of my life, but yeah........

Yes. It worked for the San Antonio Spurs. They tanked the 96-97 season to get Tim Duncan. Since then they've enjoyed a 13 year run of awesomeness and 4 championships.

They picked Roethlisberger at 11.

I will not root for the Chiefs to lose, but the impact of Berry's loss is going to be profound.

Berry struggled early in pass coverage as a rookie, but he improved tremendously as the season progressed, and that's going to be a huge loss for us in pass defense.

But his impact as a run defender, and the loss of that impact in this defense can not be overstated.

He was the primary reason that this run defense wasn't among the wost in the league last year.

Romeo Crennel is going to have to work a miricle to keep this defense from falling into the 25th or lower defense in the NFL this year.

With Detroit, Green Bay, Pittsburg and the Jets on the schedule this year, I expect Cassel will have worse games than this one against Buffalo.

I agree with all of that. I don't know if Barry was the 'best' player on defense yet, but I think the dropoff between him and anyone else at his position on the roster was far and away the largest, and I think the importance of his role in and his presence with the defense can't be overstated.

As far as winning, I don't want to see them lose. Ever. I hate losing so much I'll get to the point where I stop watching games altogether. So, no, I don't want them to sacrifice a season for any reason. And as far as Luck or anybody else goes, I wouldn't get my hopes up anyway. I don't have any faith that the franchise would ever draft a quarterback early under any circumstances, so you'd be left with a situation where you're going 2-14 for a shot at what would probably end up being a defensive or offensive lineman.

Yay.

I don't ever want to see my team lose. We WILL get a franchise QB. Whether it's sooner or later, I don't know. That doesn't mean that Cassel will still be around before then. I have faith that the front office realizes that Cassel is not the answer. Now we may see a stop gap veteran in there before we get a franchise QB, but at least it's not Cassel. We don't have to worry about the Chiefs realizing Cassel is not the answer, Cassel is doing a good job of proving that on his own.

I want Matt Cassel gone, and I want Andrew Luck. I don't care about these next 15 games as much as I care about getting someone in here that can actually be a franchise QB.

I'm tired of the nonsense and the blind faith I've put in these awful QBs.

Get me someone who is elite at the quarterback position for once in my lifetime.

Doh! I was thinking it was at 7.

Still, they took one when they had finally sucked enough to have a chance.


I would have more faith in that if it weren't for the fact that they haven't had one since Len Dawson.

Pretty much.

Ben was picked 11th and the Steelers did not intentionally tank the season to get him. He was also the 3rd QB taken that year, and IMO, the best of the three.

Eli Manning was the guy everyone was drooling over, and he's the least of the bunch.

If a good franchise develops a talented QB, then they'll succeed.

A bad franchise can draft a great QB and it's a disaster. I think Carson Palmer would be an elite QB right now had he been drafted by a team that isn't a complete ****ing circus.

I want us to draft a QB, but I'd never advocate tanking to pick high in the draft and I certainly don't think picking #1 is the absolute best position to be in if you don't win a SB.

Truth hurts.

Sigh....the Lions are going to murder us....

I get upset when the Chiefs lose preseason games. And they don't even count

I want them to win, just enough to get Andrew Luck, so 2-3 games maybe.

Yeah, but I think this team would be a lot better if we had that "least of the bunch."

Wasn't talking about intentionally tanking the season. Just looking for a silver lining in what appears to be a shit season.

As I look at the schedule, there isn't a team that we face that doesn't have some ability to get after the QB.

I'm wondering now if Cassel will have a single game that he surpsses 150 yards passing.

I'm wondering how many games he will finish with fewer than 100 yards.

I think that first sub-100 yard game comes this weekend against the Lions.

Kimo von Oelhoffen had more to do with that than him being on the Bengals.

It's going to be fun reading all of the debates about whether KC should take Barkley, Jones, Foles, Cousins, Weedon or Lindley.

Jones and Lindley are probably my front runners right now, I don't have a strong opinion either way. There seems to be a huge chasm between all of them and Luck.

Pretty much sums it up.

Want to win? Damn straight.

Expect to win? Not so much.

Any reports from practice this week? Is Haley killing them? Overall attitude of the team?

What's odd is that I honestly have no idea if they will come out fired up or be flat in Detroit.

I put my homer glasses on this preseason in hopes that the team made enough improvements to carry Cassel. I hoped that Cassel made enough improvements to carry his own weight.

Sunday hit me like a bucket of cold water. At least with Berry in the line up we had a chance. That chance blew out with Eric's ACL.

And sadly, even if we do draft in the top 5, I'm 95% certain we won't be taking a QB.

And in case we do, I don't think Haley is the guy to develop him. Screaming and ranting at a rookie QB probably isn't the best way to settle his nerves. I don't think Haley has the patience to develop a rookie QB.

Then Haley isn't the man I want coaching this team.

He's not going to have a choice. This squad is sinking with a noodle-armed, weak minded QB. He can't handle pressure, at all.

This team needs a franchise signal caller and if we go 1-15, it's worth it to me to get him.

I think they absolutely would take Luck if they had the #1 pick. Absolutely. T

If they pass on Luck for Matt Kalil or somebody else, Pioli should have his nuts tied to a cinderblock and thrown into the Missouri River.

Yeah of course I want them to win each time I sit down on Sunday to watch their game. But realistically I just want them to build a team that can compete for the Super Bowl for several years. We're still not there, and we won't be until our quarterback situation changes. Luck isn't the only way that can happen.

Yeah, so do I. I want a QB. I loathe Cassel.

Still my initial comment was in regards to a comment about having the #1 pick being the best situation outside of winning the SB.

There are a lot of good QB's in the NFL that weren't picked #1 overall and no college prospect is a sure thing. That's all I was getting at.

Drafting smart is more important than picking in the top 5 a whole bunch.

I don't think Cassel finishes the season as the starter anyway. And I'm not talking because of injury.

It won't take trying to hit the tank this season. Head Coach clueless, best Defensive players gone for the season and prideful GM in not recognizing his mistake at QB (Cassel). This thing was over before in began. But if we hit rock bottom, the QB (Locker) is there to join a good foundation of Offensive weapons.

Man you scare me because you know he would do it.

Rams are gonna be drafting top 5 if they lose 5 starters a game.

Well, either your boys or the G-Men are headed for 0-2.

I know.

If it's the Rams: :deevee:

If it's the Giants: :clap:

But I have never ever seen a team lose 5 starters in the span of 1 game due to injury.

It looks like it's going to be a brutal season for injuries. The number 1 pick could go to a team that's a complete surprise at this point.

Yep, just goes to show how important those OTA's are.

Or how an actual offensive line can help a QB. Or, I dunno, have some depth at CB....

If the Rams don't win 8 games this year, I'm going to start getting my ax ready for Spags and Devaney.

I think the reduced practice times that the players demanded is going to come back and bite them in the ass over the long run.

And, not trying to make the Berry injury seem minor(it isn't, he's going to be a great safety), but the Rams just lost their #1/#2 CB for the season, lost the only guy who can catch the ball for 8-10 weeks.

It's really too bad that SJ39 is going to end up wasting his career in football purgatory.

I know. :(

I really hope they make the playoffs this season or next, as I don't think SJ has that much time left in St. Louis.

Well, they definately play in the right division if making the postseason is what you desire.

No offense, but I really hated that SJ went to the Rams. At least Quizz is going to get a chance in Atlanta (Oregon State alum here, if you couldn't tell).

The Rams could have been decent for a while if they didn't let their decent FAs walk and draft terrible players.

If Marshall was healthy in 2006, the Rams would have had a great 1-2 RB combo and an even better offense.

As high as I was on Haley and Pioli, I'm about at the same point. What an absolute F'n joke losing a home opener 41-7 to any team, much less the Bills. The most unprepared Chiefs team I've ever seen and that includes Herm's abortion of a debut as Chiefs coach.

The difference is I'm willing to give them one more season. Spags and Devaney have increased the talent level, no denying that. But there were 4 games last year that stick out to me that Spags had horrible in game management.

I like Devaney, but he needs to address the WR situation for awhile.

Haley had the same card last year and came up with 10-6 and a division championship. This year comes down to lack of preparation. We have more talent on both sides of the ball that any time in the last 5 years. If we continue to fail Haley's only choice is to be to bench Cassel or lose his job. He might lose his job anyway and should for the way this team was prepared. He's not going to be able to just turn it on. We came into this season behind every other team in the league and preparation. You can't get that back. The theory that 'the plan' would result in less injuries is out the window. FAIL.

Do you honestly think upper management or the owners would allow someone like Cassel, who has a hefty contract, to get benched? I could see Haley having the balls to do it but not being allowed to do it.

NO Luck in this lottery. We can't suck that bad. Gailey schooled Haley. The rest of the season will determine if Haley can't cut it.

We're STUCK with Cassel, for the next two years, at least.

Cassel has already gotten all the big money for his contract, so there really isn't any finacial reason at this point to continue to trot his sorry ass out there.

Curious, how many times did he exceed 150 yards last year?

I just posted some similar numbers in the Luck thread.

Cassel has played in 32 games as a Chief, and in 18 of them he's thrown for under 200 yards.

7 of those games he threw for under 150, and 5 of them he threw for under 100.

Sickening.

1/6th of his games are under 100 yards. Are you ****ing kidding me!

Lets take Sanchez for example since he would have been the other option. He has only threw under 100 yards, twice in the same time. Last year his lowest outing was the Ravens at 74, but after that never lower than 161.

His defense is carrying him.

Oh ****....I didn't realize it was that bad.....

Oh wait, yes I did.....didn't I?

Amazing to see it laid out like that. Speaks to the troubles of a team that can't play consistently (good or bad).

Yeah his completion % isn't getting better at all. He missed Burress on a WR screen where he was wide open by 5 full yards. Sanchez tried so hard to lose that game Sunday night. The team picks him up and nobody says a word about his bad play. If he was on the Redskins, he would be labeled a bust.

We NEED to lose. This is all part of Haley's 'plan'.

unreal....


even designing a kiddie offense for him....

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