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DeezNutz 03-20-2012 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 8476576)
That's why I don't think we take a QB this year. They can give Stanzi an actual offseason to let him learn and see if he has "it". They can give Quinn a chance to prove himself in a new situation and they can give Cassel a year a fall on his ass.

So in other words, the FO can give itself another year to do next to nothing?

Shitty starter? Check. Long-shot FA acquisition? Check. Lottery ticket in late rounds? Check.

All of that adds up to a big bag of shit unless we're the luckiest sonsofbitches in the world.

RealSNR 03-20-2012 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8473537)
Washington is all done with first round picks for awhile.

I can agree that replacing one project with another isn't optimum, but we need to make a move that will pay dividends in a year or two, immediately.

Do you seriously believe Foles is a move that will pay dividends for the future?

Like I said, if there's a franchise QB in this draft available to us, we should take him. I view Tannehill as a suspect guy... he could be ****ing phenomenal, or he could be the worst thing since Tyler Palko. Nobody really knows.

Besides him, I don't see any guy in this draft who has a better shot to pay future dividends than Stanzi. Hell, I'll take Brady Quinn's chances at becoming a franchise QB over most of these clowns.

Again, if you believe in Foles, that's fine, but you're going to have to explain it to me. I don't see it at all. All I see is an oversized version of Cassel if he ever had a chance to start in college. Tell me what Nick Foles specifically possesses in his skill set that would bode well for the Chiefs' immediate future at QB?

Oh, and of course I'm not talking about RGIII or Luck when I'm saying these things

BossChief 03-20-2012 07:17 PM

Foles threw his team on his back all year. The team lost a lot of games because their defense was horrid, but he had some really nice games that get overlooked because of the "L".


Admittedly, as I have mentioned before, I'm going off his games from year before last
more so than last year as I was far busier this year with life outside football.

I saw a guy that had a live arm, responded well when the opposing team scored and showed the ability to distribute the ball well. He was calm and collected, but also showed the ability to be demanding.

It's tough to judge how the guy would do with a good defense and significantly more talent to work with on offense, but I am absolutely second guessing my thoughts on the kid.

I hate doing that, but he hasn't really given me much to go off that would lead me to think his stock is as high as it once was.

DeezNutz 03-20-2012 07:19 PM

I've heard several analysts speak highly of Cousins recently, and I've seen at least one mock with us taking him.

ChiefsCountry 03-20-2012 07:24 PM

Quinn is going to be the quarterback when its all said and done.
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DeezNutz 03-20-2012 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 8477450)
Quinn is going to be the quarterback when its all said and done.
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I don't believe that for a second.

First, it's unclear whether he's worth a shit at all. And I mean it's questionable if he can play at even a Cassel level of suck. Second, if things are "about even" in camp, the nod is going to Cassel every single ****ing time.

Quinn will have to be a damn miracle worker to force Pioli's (yes, Pioli's--RAC isn't deciding shit) hand.

Rasputin 03-20-2012 07:34 PM

Am sure we will draft a QB in later round. Stanzi & Brady need to step it up and take out Cassel.

TheGuardian 03-20-2012 07:35 PM

I'm going to go with Quinn because Pestilience says he's never been given a shot, and that timeline kind of rang true to that.

But if he just sucks, I'm putting it on Pestilience and he can no longer give opinions that are to be taken seriously after that.

Rasputin 03-20-2012 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 8477477)
I'm going to go with Quinn because Pestilience says he's never been given a shot, and that timeline kind of rang true to that.

But if he just sucks, I'm putting it on Pestilience and he can no longer give opinions that are to be taken seriously after that.

I think Stanzi is going out perform Quinn and Cassel, but I think they will go with Quinn before they try Stanzi once Cassel get's benched or knocked the **** out of a game.

bricks 03-20-2012 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 8477450)
Quinn is going to be the quarterback when its all said and done.
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The next Len Dawson?:D

RealSNR 03-20-2012 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 8477477)
I'm going to go with Quinn because Pestilience says he's never been given a shot, and that timeline kind of rang true to that.

But if he just sucks, I'm putting it on Pestilience and he can no longer give opinions that are to be taken seriously after that.

He just really really loves Notre Dame players, that's all. I generally trust his evaluation of players. Yeah he's an Irish homer, but then again he's probably watched the most Brady Quinn college footage of anyone on this forum. He's also probably seen several Browns games when Quinn was starting.

I'm not putting any emotional investment in Quinn, but Pest's word is good enough for me to not doubt him at least. And I'll sure as hell be rooting for him.

RealSNR 03-20-2012 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8477432)
Foles threw his team on his back all year. The team lost a lot of games because their defense was horrid, but he had some really nice games that get overlooked because of the "L".


Admittedly, as I have mentioned before, I'm going off his games from year before last
more so than last year as I was far busier this year with life outside football.

I saw a guy that had a live arm, responded well when the opposing team scored and showed the ability to distribute the ball well. He was calm and collected, but also showed the ability to be demanding.

It's tough to judge how the guy would do with a good defense and significantly more talent to work with on offense, but I am absolutely second guessing my thoughts on the kid.

I hate doing that, but he hasn't really given me much to go off that would lead me to think his stock is as high as it once was.

Ah, okay. Again, if we were down to just Cassel and Quinn, I'd say we should absolutely draft the kid in the 4th or 5th. But as it is, I don't want to give up on Stanzi's full season of progress to jump on the Foles wagon. I don't see enough there.

WV 03-20-2012 07:47 PM

I don't see anyone to draft that would make it on our Practice Sqaud for very long. I think with what we have there is enough "development" to be done.

Rasputin 03-20-2012 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by WV (Post 8477510)
I don't see anyone to draft that would make it on our Practice Sqaud for very long. I think with what we have there is enough "development" to be done.

We got to draft a QB but doubt he will make the team if it's a late rounder.

Omaha 03-20-2012 09:22 PM

What makes you guys believe Stanzi can/will be a real NFL QB? I'm not saying he can't, I'm just curious to know what so many people see in him.


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