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Marcellus 03-20-2012 02:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Satanic Goat (Post 8476141)
Holy ****, I'm still in shock.

This guy is 10x more arrogant than Carl ever was. Carl wasn't arrogant until he had actually built the Mecca of the Midwest. I don't even remember him being a huge dick until....maybe until John Tait.

Pioli walks around like he actually earned that exec. of the decade title.
I am not a Pioli fan, I haven't been since middle of last season and think he is the biggest problem we have but what about this story makes him arrogant?

I think you guys color every little tidbit of info to somehow fit your agenda and try to use it as some type of proof you are right in what you think rather than taking it at face value.

And once again, Pioli never says he doesn't know why Manning spurned the Chiefs.

That doesn't mean Manning told him, but he knows one way or another.

Does every FA player owe a visit and explanation to every team interested in him? I don't think so, so I don't see why that applies here.

Dayze 03-20-2012 02:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PGM (Post 8476178)
How many other teams GMs have come out and explained why Manning spurned them?
have any had the local paper run an article such as Teichers?

not being incidiary; just curious if there have been similar articles arond the league etc.

Okie_Apparition 03-20-2012 02:11 PM
The Chiefs doctors checked him out & found he had narrowing of the spine & figured he'd just go on to Baltimore

Ming the Merciless 03-20-2012 02:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PGM (Post 8476178)
How many other teams GMs have come out and explained why Manning spurned them?
Have any come out and said that they have no idea why Manning didn't join the team?

I would think there would at least be some BS reasons thrown out to appease the media...

Pasta Little Brioni 03-20-2012 02:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 8476175)
Its one of three things. Peyton and or condon know piolis history of lowballing. Or peyton believes the rumors from arrowhead anxiety. Or the chiefs are lying about serious which should bother all of us because there's no excuse for not at least playing the game.

All those things are scary. Unlike other teams, we have more cap space, we have Avery competitive team. We play in the afc. We play on a weak division. Most teams didn't fit like a glove the way kc did. So no its very tough to lump us on with 28 other teams, half of which already have a an and moat of which either weren't good enough or have zero money to spend.
....or it's none of those things and he idolizes horseface enough to play for 20 million a year.

Hammock Parties 03-20-2012 02:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 8476183)
I am not a Pioli fan, I haven't been since middle of last season and think he is the biggest problem we have but what about this story makes him arrogant?.
That last quote is incredibly arrogant.

He's paying Cassel a king's ransom, yet he has the balls to say Orton is overpaid.

Nevermind the balls he's swinging around lying to this fanbase twice in one offseason.

Marcellus 03-20-2012 02:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Satanic Goat (Post 8476196)
That last quote is incredibly arrogant.

He's paying Cassel a king's ransom, yet he has the balls to say Orton is overpaid.

Nevermind the balls he's swinging around lying to this fanbase twice in one offseason.
Oh, that's what set you off.

Marcellus 03-20-2012 02:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Satanic Goat (Post 8476196)
That last quote is incredibly arrogant.

He's paying Cassel a king's ransom, yet he has the balls to say Orton is overpaid.

Nevermind the balls he's swinging around lying to this fanbase twice in one offseason.
What?

Hammock Parties 03-20-2012 02:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 8476205)
What?
He was intellectually dishonest about the Chiefs having legit competition for Cassel in the past.

Now he's lied about the Chiefs wanting competition for Cassel this year. He claims they brought in Brady ****ing Quinn as competition (which is again intellectually dishonest, because Stanzi is probably better already), yet he also said Cassel was the starting quarterback.

He's a double-talking one who sucks the penis.

tk13 03-20-2012 02:16 PM
Of course Pioli is lying. But this isn't a big deal. Chiefs fans get so worked up over press clippings. I don't get it.

There is no way on earth Pioli should come out and release any statement on anything. The dumbest thing he could do is say he didn't think Manning was worth that contract, or even touch on it at all. That'll just get him on SportsCenter and make sure Manning tries to break it off in his throat next year. I can't believe he agreed to do this interview and admit he talked to him.
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FloridaMan88 03-20-2012 02:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KC Fish (Post 8476149)
Bottom line for me....

Pioli told the public that there would be legit competition for Cassel.

Quinn was told by management that Cassel would be the starting QB.

Despite which you believe, Pioli is telling us one thing, and the team is hearing the opposite.
Regardless of what he was told or not told, Brady Quinn isn't legit competition for a starting NFL QB job.

ShortRoundChief 03-20-2012 02:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PGM (Post 8476178)
How many other teams GMs have come out and explained why Manning spurned them?
How many other posters have an altered version of their teams symbol as their avatar and that altered version is made to look like a division rivals quarterback?

Pasta Little Brioni 03-20-2012 02:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by J Diddy (Post 8476222)
How many other posters have an altered version of their teams symbol as their avatar and that altered version is made to look like a division rivals quarterback?
Just one that has been too lazy to change it :D

Hammock Parties 03-20-2012 02:20 PM
Bringing in Brady Quinn and saying he's legit competition for Matt Cassel is kind of like bringing back Justin Medlock to compete with Succop.

Pioli must think this fanbase is composed of mouthbreathers.

We'll see who the idiot is when Arrowhead is half empty in November.

Old Dog 03-20-2012 02:21 PM
Oddly enough I just got ANOTHER E-mail RE: Season tickets available (the third one since I didn't renew mine).

Here's my response:
As soon as the Chiefs sign a QUALITY QB, I'll renew my season tickets. Until that time comes, I'll not spend another nickel on tickets, parking, jerseys, or any other Chiefs related memorobilia. I don't expect KC to get into a bidding war for any/every free agent available, but it's been a glaring weakenss for this team for years and the front office has again failed to address it by sticking with Mr Piolis' boy. Even the signing of Quinn belies his statement of "brining in competition" at the position as evidenced by the statements Quinn made when he was told that Cassel was the starter.

Again, get back to me when we have a quality player under center.


Thank You

Hammock Parties 03-20-2012 02:23 PM
Oh god. I want to get one of those emails so bad.

I'd write 500 words.

Old Dog 03-20-2012 02:24 PM
PM me your E-mail address, Hell, I'll forward you this one :)

Hammock Parties 03-20-2012 02:26 PM
Nah, that wouldn't feel right.

I get emails from them about tix from time to time, I'm sure my prince will come.

Hammock Parties 03-20-2012 02:26 PM
I got one in January. I'm sure I'll get another.

whoman69 03-20-2012 02:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Satanic Goat (Post 8476024)
Based on things I've heard today, no way we go quarterback.

Pioli's going to draft someone to help the Chiefs win in 2012.
Can't believe I side with Goatsee, but Pioli has to back up his decision for hanging onto Cassel despite other teams being out there. The plan all along was Manning or chump. When he realized that Manning laughed at the Chiefs, he had to back up his annointed one.

NJChiefsFan 03-20-2012 02:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Satanic Goat (Post 8476209)
He was intellectually dishonest about the Chiefs having legit competition for Cassel in the past.
.
No matter what people say about the current situation and its small chances of working, this is most certainly true. Saying the QB competition in the past was real is a complete joke. Its a slap in the face to be honest.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Old Dog (Post 8476232)
Oddly enough I just got ANOTHER E-mail RE: Season tickets available (the third one since I didn't renew mine).

Here's my response:
As soon as the Chiefs sign a QUALITY QB, I'll renew my season tickets. Until that time comes, I'll not spend another nickel on tickets, parking, jerseys, or any other Chiefs related memorobilia. I don't expect KC to get into a bidding war for any/every free agent available, but it's been a glaring weakenss for this team for years and the front office has again failed to address it by sticking with Mr Piolis' boy. Even the signing of Quinn belies his statement of "brining in competition" at the position as evidenced by the statements Quinn made when he was told that Cassel was the starter.

Again, get back to me when we have a quality player under center.


Thank You
:clap:

Thats the way to go. A calm, logical response. People can say what they want, you get a crap load of ticket holders saying that and something changes. Empty seats got Carl out the last time.

Groves 03-20-2012 02:38 PM
He's protecting us from..........other people's view of us.

If Peyton essentially says, "We've done the not-megatown midwest thing already, sorry man," What's Pioli supposed to tell us?

He can't say that KC just doesn't have the appeal that some other towns do (though it's true), or that gosh darn it, those mountains are a real draw for some folks (and they are)

He can't say it. Not publicly. Do you think Pioli vacations in KC? Why not? Exactly.

He can't say that he asked Peyton about why not, because if he admits to asking, then he's going to be immediately asked what Peyton's response was, and then he's back to square one in not wanting to admit the real reason.

So, Pioli eventually goes all "private conversation" on us, and that's basically to get the questions to STOP.

Who knows why couples pick cities to live in. Could be something totally silly. Time to move on (as in move onto the practice field so we can crush him).

GordonGekko 03-20-2012 02:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Satanic Goat (Post 8476228)
Bringing in Brady Quinn and saying he's legit competition for Matt Cassel is kind of like bringing back Justin Medlock to compete with Succop.

Pioli must think this fanbase is composed of mouthbreathers.

We'll see who the idiot is when Arrowhead is half empty in November.
Cassel sucks,

but I can definitely see this team winning anyway.

Kind of how the Buccs did with BJ.

GordonGekko 03-20-2012 02:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Old Dog (Post 8476232)
Oddly enough I just got ANOTHER E-mail RE: Season tickets available (the third one since I didn't renew mine).

Here's my response:
As soon as the Chiefs sign a QUALITY QB, I'll renew my season tickets. Until that time comes, I'll not spend another nickel on tickets, parking, jerseys, or any other Chiefs related memorobilia. I don't expect KC to get into a bidding war for any/every free agent available, but it's been a glaring weakenss for this team for years and the front office has again failed to address it by sticking with Mr Piolis' boy. Even the signing of Quinn belies his statement of "brining in competition" at the position as evidenced by the statements Quinn made when he was told that Cassel was the starter.

Again, get back to me when we have a quality player under center.


Thank You
What sucks is that this org. is committed to 'mediocrity', to the point where we will always win enough games not to pick in the top 3 picks, where alot of the franchise qb's are drafted. This has been the story for decades. And FA QB's is hit or miss, you have to have the right system. But you can look at Brees and say that the FA route to finding a QB is perfectly legitimate.

NJChiefsFan 03-20-2012 02:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by GordonGekko (Post 8476306)
Cassel sucks,

but I can definitely see this team winning anyway.

Kind of how the Buccs did with BJ.
That was back when defenses were allowed to hit people. Sapp and Lynch not being able to do their thing would have changed that team.

whoman69 03-20-2012 02:47 PM
Sounds to me like the Chiefs were told they wouldn't be in Manning's plans and left it at that. The 49ers didn't stand pat. They at least made an effort to go out and get him. The Titans were in the chase after not being on the original list either. The Chiefs didn't get Manning because they didn't show an interest. They didn't go out and show Manning they wanted him.

Hoover 03-20-2012 02:48 PM
and how did that help the 49ers?

Marcellus 03-20-2012 02:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by whoman69 (Post 8476346)
Sounds to me like the Chiefs were told they wouldn't be in Manning's plans and left it at that. The 49ers didn't stand pat. They at least made an effort to go out and get him. The Titans were in the chase after not being on the original list either. The Chiefs didn't get Manning because they didn't show an interest. They didn't go out and show Manning they wanted him.
So they wasted their time in other words?

Had KC wasted their time it would have made you feel better. Damn I wish they had done that.

Chiefnj2 03-20-2012 02:51 PM
Why would Pioli go public on a private conversation?

InChiefsHeaven 03-20-2012 02:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 8476359)
So they wasted their time in other words?

Had KC wasted their time it would have made you feel better. Damn I wish they had done that.
Indeed. Imagine if the Chiefs had made a big splash only to be turned down by Manning. Everyone would be bitching about what punks that made us look like etc.

can't win. PM is a Donk. Move on.

Carlota69 03-20-2012 02:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 8476068)
THIS

All you can do is make the call.

People act like Manning and his agent went off or something.

Here is how things went down in the minds of CP members.

SP: Hey Peyton, it's Scott Pioli with the Kansas City Chiefs.

PM: Who?

SP: Scott Pioli

PM: Listen up you fat fu@k candy wrapper littering fool, I don't want anything to do with your shit ass KC Chiefs. You know why? Its because you suck Scott. You're a fu@king dickhead, and I don't want any part of it. Would I like to play with Jamal Charles, D Bowe, and that awesome Defense of yours, yeah because I'd win three Super Bowls, but I don't want to do that because it would mean you win too, and I don't want to be part of that.

SP: OK

PM: I'm not done Scott. Listen, I'm going to fly to Denver. Hang out there for a few days. Then go to Arizona. WHY? Because I can. I'm not going to KC because I want to make you look like the a$$hole you really are. Got it? Then Bud Adams is going to offer me a ton of money, and people are going to say, "whoa, I knew it, Manning is going home to Tenn." Yeah, not so fast fu@kers. Then San Fran is going to get into the action, which will create a shit storm for Alex Smith, and then I'm going to sign with the Broncos. WHY? So I can beat your ass twice a year Scott.

PM: You suck Pioli, and now your fans know how much you are hurting their team by still being alive. Just wait until I put Eric Decker on my back and make him a pro bowler. it's going to be just like when Jesus made water into wine.

Have a nice life, Scott. fu@king dumbass.

SP: Hey Peyton, can we keep this just between us? Could I just say that you had a plan, and I didn't really know what the plan was, but we talked?

PM: Eat shit and die Scott.
ROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFL

Hammock Parties 03-20-2012 03:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by GordonGekko (Post 8476306)
Cassel sucks,

but I can definitely see this team winning anyway.
Potential losses:

@Denver
@San Diego
@Oakland
Baltimore
Cincinnati
Atlanta
@Pittsburgh
@New Orleans
@Tampa Bay

We might win two of those.

9-7 ain't getting us to the playoffs.

TEX 03-20-2012 03:03 PM
Eric Winston said in an interview on SportsRadio 610 in Houston yesterday that Peyton Manning is always in control, and he was curious as to how it would be in Denver.

DumbHillbillies 03-20-2012 03:04 PM
These guys are a joke...seriously, I'm not upset about the peyton thing sounds like he didn't want to come here short of overpaying. But if your not going to offer orton a competitive contract then your really not serous about competition.

DumbHillbillies 03-20-2012 03:04 PM
I hope this sh*t ultimately spells the end of pioli

doomy3 03-20-2012 03:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8476365)
Why would Pioli go public on a private conversation?
This. I guess I don't understand the outrage over this.

I don't think I can remember any GM every publicly explaining why a FA who signs with another team didn't sign with them and then disclosing a bunch of details.

DaWolf 03-20-2012 03:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DumbHillbillies (Post 8476410)
These guys are a joke...seriously, I'm not upset about the peyton thing sounds like he didn't want to come here short of overpaying. But if your not going to offer orton a competitive contract then your really not serous about competition.
Orton was replaced by Tebow. His career numbers are worse than Cassel's. When we got him, he had one good game. He threw two picks in the Oakland game and outside of a McCluster run in Denver, couldn't drive us to any more points.

Why would you want to pay that guy 4 times more than Quinn?

InChiefsHeaven 03-20-2012 03:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaWolf (Post 8476424)
Orton was replaced by Tebow. His career numbers are worse than Cassel's. When we got him, he had one good game. He threw two picks in the Oakland game and outside of a McCluster run in Denver, couldn't drive us to any more points.

Why would you want to pay that guy 4 times more than Quinn?
Consider the user name. That is all.

Chiefnj2 03-20-2012 03:23 PM
Manning didn't want to come to KC, and Pioli probably wasn't willing to pay him 20-40 million without some type of injury protection clause. Get over it. He's a Manning. He's a douche by nature.

BigChiefFan 03-20-2012 03:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaWolf (Post 8476424)
Orton was replaced by Tebow. His career numbers are worse than Cassel's. When we got him, he had one good game. He threw two picks in the Oakland game and outside of a McCluster run in Denver, couldn't drive us to any more points.

Why would you want to pay that guy 4 times more than Quinn?
I agree. Orton was nothing more than a band-aid.

Hammock Parties 03-20-2012 03:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaWolf (Post 8476424)

Why would you want to pay that guy 4 times more than Quinn?
Offensive YPG W/Orton: 384
W/Cassel: 306

Passing YPG with Orton: 258
W/Cassel: 193.

YPA with Orton: 8.0
W/Cassel: 6.4

Turnovers PG with Orton: 1
W/Cassel: 1.7

Defensive PPG allowed with orton: 11
W/Cassel: 24.2

Orton: 2-1 (against 2 playoff teams)
Cassel: 4-5 (0 wins against playoff teams, beat 3-13 Vikings, 2-14 Colts, Kyle Boller and Miracle Fumble Bullshit)

saphojunkie 03-20-2012 03:30 PM
Jeez, Peyton might be the first quarterback to get a GM fired without even being on the team.

ShortRoundChief 03-20-2012 03:32 PM
Got this gem from Teichers chat session today.
http://www.kansascity.com/2012/03/20...m-teicher.html


12:13

Comment From Robert
I am 62 years old next month. I was at Fort Lenardwood when the Chiefs last played in a Super Bowl. What do you think are my chances to see the Chiefs make the Super Bowl again before I die?
12:14


Adam Teicher:
How long are you going to live? If it's only a few years, probably not good. If you'll be around until you're 90, there's a reasonable chance.

Ming the Merciless 03-20-2012 03:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Satanic Goat (Post 8476460)
Offensive YPG W/Orton: 384
W/Cassel: 306

Passing YPG with Orton: 258
W/Cassel: 193.

Defensive PPG allowed with orton: 11
W/Cassel: 24.2


Turnovers PG with Orton: 1
W/Cassel: 1.7
Doesn't this mean that Orton had a better run game with less fumbles...and a better defense??

I'm not sure who this is supposed to help?

TEX 03-20-2012 03:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Satanic Goat (Post 8476404)
Potential losses:

@Denver
@San Diego
@Oakland
Baltimore
Cincinnati
Atlanta
@Pittsburgh
@New Orleans
@Tampa Bay

We might win two of those.

9-7 ain't getting us to the playoffs.
Would have last year...easily
Besides I think KC can win at SD, OAK, TB and beat Cinci and Atlanta at home

Hammock Parties 03-20-2012 03:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 8475912)
[B]Pioli doesn’t know

http://i40.tinypic.com/2zzm643.jpg

Hammock Parties 03-20-2012 03:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TEX (Post 8476478)
Would have last year...easily
Besides I think KC can win at SD, OAK
We aren't sweeping anyone in the division. ROFL

Messier 03-20-2012 03:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Satanic Goat (Post 8476488)
We aren't sweeping anyone in the division. ROFL
Why not. We almost swept two teams last year. Oakland is worse SD is about the same, we are better. Yes we can sweep a team in this division.

Ming the Merciless 03-20-2012 03:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Satanic Goat (Post 8476488)
We aren't sweeping anyone in the division. ROFL
We will sweep the fade. Have faith.

I think we will be a pretty solid team, better than most people here think. 10-6 or 11-5

Hammock Parties 03-20-2012 03:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 8476551)
We will sweep the fade. Have faith.

I think we will be a pretty solid team, better than most people here think. 10-6 or 11-5
The Raiders have won 4 of 6 against us under Scooter Peeholey.

Ming the Merciless 03-20-2012 03:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Satanic Goat (Post 8476569)
The Raiders have won 4 of 6 against us under Scooter Peeholey.
Therefore the Gods must return the statistical tide...this cannot continue. It is the fade.

qabbaan 03-20-2012 04:01 PM
It sounds like the Chiefs weren't willing to pay what the market would bear.

I don't believe they were serious about pursuing him. Think of how secretive this team is. If they were in they wouldn't have been telling anyone. It was a PR move so they could blame Manning and not have to say "we are happy with Cassel and our unused cap space."

Ming the Merciless 03-20-2012 04:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by qabbaan (Post 8476580)
It sounds like the Chiefs weren't willing to pay what the market would bear.
Most likely...

I'm sure even if they were willing to pay, they weren't willing to do so without a prohibitive injury clause....

I don't think I would be willing to shell out that much cash without some sort of injury clause, but maybe Denver did?

ShortRoundChief 03-20-2012 04:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 8476589)
Most likely...

I'm sure even if they were willing to pay, they weren't willing to do so without a prohibitive injury clause....

I don't think I would be willing to shell out that much cash without some sort of injury clause, but maybe Denver did?
Manning's contract requires him to pass a physical in 2013 to make $20 million guaranteed money next year and in 2014 and pass physicals to earn his salary in 2015 and 2016, a safety clause in case Manning's neck injury limits his ability.

Read more: http://www.vancouversun.com/sports/P...#ixzz1phISTcja



Plus as expected they unretired his jersey number.

TEX 03-20-2012 04:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Satanic Goat (Post 8476488)
We aren't sweeping anyone in the division. ROFL
Never said we would. Just commented on the games listed.

Hammock Parties 03-20-2012 04:12 PM
I admire your optimism but I've seen things.

The Raiders make Cassel cry tears...in the rain.

http://uranus.ckt.net/~gochiefs/baldwinoops.gif

http://uranus.ckt.net/~gochiefs/billies/new/pick.gif

http://uranus.ckt.net/~gochiefs/billies/new/ass.gif

http://uranus.ckt.net/~gochiefs/bill.../casselsux.gif

Hammock Parties 03-20-2012 04:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TEX (Post 8476614)
Never said we would. Just commented on the games listed.
That's my point. We're going to lose 3 games in the division in all likelihood. So chalk up 3 losses right there against divisional foes.

ShortRoundChief 03-20-2012 04:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Satanic Goat (Post 8476636)
That's my point. We're going to lose 3 games in the division in all likelihood. So chalk up 3 losses right there against divisional foes.

meh, I'll go 2

Hammock Parties 03-20-2012 04:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by J Diddy (Post 8476642)
meh, I'll go 2
:facepalm:

Even when we went 10-6, we finished 2-4 in the division.

BossChief 03-20-2012 04:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by J Diddy (Post 8476471)
Got this gem from Teichers chat session today.
http://www.kansascity.com/2012/03/20...m-teicher.html
12:13

Comment From Robert
I am 62 years old next month. I was at Fort Lenardwood when the Chiefs last played in a Super Bowl. What do you think are my chances to see the Chiefs make the Super Bowl again before I die?
12:14
Adam Teicher:
How long are you going to live? If it's only a few years, probably not good. If you'll be around until you're 90, there's a reasonable chance.
Ouch

Hammock Parties 03-20-2012 04:16 PM
Teicher is doing the lawds work.

whoman69 03-20-2012 04:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 8476359)
So they wasted their time in other words?

Had KC wasted their time it would have made you feel better. Damn I wish they had done that.
I would hardly call getting Peyton Manning wasting time. Never hear of multi-tasking? With our cap room, we could have gone out and made all the same deals we did and still got Peyton. When Peyton interviewed for the Colts, he told them if they chose Leaf, the Peyton would come back for the next 15 years to beat them. He had confidence in himself. The Chiefs didn't and didn't even get a foot in the door.

loochy 03-20-2012 04:18 PM
thats neat.

ShortRoundChief 03-20-2012 04:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Satanic Goat (Post 8476646)
:facepalm:

Even when we went 10-6, we finished 2-4 in the division.
What does past performance of a previous season have to do with anything. I say we split with SD and Den, and sweep oak

Hammock Parties 03-20-2012 04:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 8476476)
Doesn't this mean that Orton had a better run game with less fumbles...and a better defense??
It means the running game was better because Orton can actually get a safety outta the box, IMO.

Hammock Parties 03-20-2012 04:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by J Diddy (Post 8476471)
Got this gem from Teichers chat session today.
http://www.kansascity.com/2012/03/20...m-teicher.html


12:13

Comment From Robert
I am 62 years old next month. I was at Fort Lenardwood when the Chiefs last played in a Super Bowl. What do you think are my chances to see the Chiefs make the Super Bowl again before I die?
12:14


Adam Teicher:
How long are you going to live? If it's only a few years, probably not good. If you'll be around until you're 90, there's a reasonable chance.
ROFL

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-...59449592_n.jpg

Ming the Merciless 03-20-2012 04:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Satanic Goat (Post 8476631)
I admire your optimism but I've seen things.

The Raiders make Cassel cry tears...in the rain.
You've also seen things briefly in the Sun, reflecting off of Weiss's glistening body......a spark of hope that almost ignited into a flame, only to be extinguished by the gush of wind caused by Weiss' rumbling exit.

Well and a ton of injuries....

Perhaps the time can come again when our team is healthy and we can frolic like men...Macho men...not in a gay way...Just frolicking happily together on Chiefs Planet where everyone is flexing down and yelling and screaming because we made another 1st down.

No more tears. No More rain. Perhaps the day will come....









Wait...we are Chiefs fans....nevermind.

Al Bundy 03-20-2012 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 8475963)
If he could just stop using the word 'competition', I would hate him less.

Be honest - "We believe that we have a franchise caliber quarterback in Matt..."

Everyone sees that's honestly what he thinks. He clearly has no interest in anyone actually pushing Matt Cassel because he believes in him.

He's wrong, but that's what he truly believes - why hide it at this point?

All it does is piss me off when he acts like I'm a kindergartner.
This is 100% on. It is the Casshole effect.

DeezNutz 03-20-2012 04:26 PM
How much was Orton's contract worth? 3-year deal, but I'm not finding the amount off hand.

Hammock Parties 03-20-2012 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 8476705)
How much was Orton's contract worth? 3-year deal, but I'm not finding the amount off hand.
10.5 mil

DeezNutz 03-20-2012 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Satanic Goat (Post 8476710)
10.5 mil
About half guaranteed, I'm guessing?

And this was the "very generous amount" that we were unable to match in order to secure real "competition"? Seriously, Pioli might be the biggest lying piece of shit to be a part of KC professional sports in a long time.

Shouldn't be too much of a surprise that a man deeply involved in some..."ethical ambiguities" in New England would have a general aversion to truth and transparency.

TEX 03-20-2012 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 8476736)
About half guaranteed, I'm guessing?

And this was the "very generous amount" that we were unable to match in order to secure real "competition"? Seriously, Pioli might be the biggest lying piece of shit to be a part of KC professional sports in a long time.

Shouldn't be too much of a surprise that a man deeply involved in some..."ethical ambiguities" in New England would have a general aversion to truth and transparency.
:clap: Very well said sir!

RealSNR 03-20-2012 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by J Diddy (Post 8476665)
What does past performance of a previous season have to do with anything. I say we split with SD and Den, and sweep oak
I said the same thing last year.

Eric Winston is a good RT, but I doubt he's good enough to beat the teams in his division that he SHOULD.

It's absolutely inex****ingscusable that we lose as often as we do to the ****ing Raiders. Even Tamba Hali rarely has good games against them. The @Oakland game this past season was a total anomaly compared to how we've ACTUALLY played them since Patriot Way happened.

In order to affect THAT kind of change, it needs to come from the coach and it needs to come from the quarterback. The QB can be vocal and hard working and all that bullshit, but in the end the QB has to lead by DOING on the field against tough division games. That's something I have yet to see Cassel do.

Serious question. Does anybody here recall a time that Cassel had a great game against a division rival? I can't ****ing think of a single goddamned one.

Embarrassing. :facepalm:

DeezNutz 03-20-2012 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 8476749)
I said the same thing last year.

Eric Winston is a good RT, but I doubt he's good enough to beat the teams in his division that he SHOULD.

It's absolutely inex****ingscusable that we lose as often as we do to the ****ing Raiders. Even Tamba Hali rarely has good games against them. The @Oakland game this past season was a total anomaly compared to how we've ACTUALLY played them since Patriot Way happened.

In order to affect THAT kind of change, it needs to come from the coach and it needs to come from the quarterback. The QB can be vocal and hard working and all that bullshit, but in the end the QB has to lead by DOING on the field against tough division games. That's something I have yet to see Cassel do.

Serious question. Does anybody here recall a time that Cassel had a great game against a division rival? I can't ****ing think of a single goddamned one.

Embarrassing. :facepalm:
He led a "game-winning drive" in OAK didn't he? And about half the board immediately rushed to service him.

The irony, of course, is that he was so ****ing bad in the first half that many were calling for him to be benched in the game thread.

Fritz88 03-20-2012 05:22 PM
Polio is clearly butthurt by Manning ditching him.
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NJChiefsFan 03-20-2012 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 8476736)
About half guaranteed, I'm guessing?

And this was the "very generous amount" that we were unable to match in order to secure real "competition"? Seriously, Pioli might be the biggest lying piece of shit to be a part of KC professional sports in a long time.

Shouldn't be too much of a surprise that a man deeply involved in some..."ethical ambiguities" in New England would have a general aversion to truth and transparency.
Thats what people should be pissed about. Him making sure that Cassel doesn't have a serious threat behind him.

Kyle DeLexus 03-20-2012 05:28 PM
With manning being the enemy now, are there any decent QB's that will be in next years draft that will be available around 15-20?

FloridaMan88 03-20-2012 05:32 PM
Fat Scott and Jeff Ireland are the same person.

Both are clueless to the fact they are hated with a passion.

Jeff Ireland thinks Miami's QB situation is set with the likes of Matt Moore and David Garrard. Fat Scott thinks the Chiefs are fine at QB with Cassel, Quinn and Stanzi.

The rest of the NFL is laughing at these two dumbshits.

DeezNutz 03-20-2012 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Kyle DeLexus (Post 8476965)
With manning being the enemy now, are there any decent QB's that will be in next years draft that will be available around 15-20?
There might be around four QBs with a first-round grade whom we'll pass on next year. Because, naturally, 2014 looks like a better year.

For shits and grins, though, I just saw that Drafttek projects Tannehill to be selected in the fourth, and this is a recent mock.

I think we'll probably see this guy slide a bit. Not that far, but enough that people (read: dipshits) will be haranguing those who have advocated selecting him at #11 overall. Then, when he has his first bad game as a pro, he'll be proclaimed a bust.

When it comes to QBs, everything associated with KC is a complete ****ing joke.

Three7s 03-20-2012 05:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SNR (Post 8476749)
I said the same thing last year.

Eric Winston is a good RT, but I doubt he's good enough to beat the teams in his division that he SHOULD.

It's absolutely inex****ingscusable that we lose as often as we do to the ****ing Raiders. Even Tamba Hali rarely has good games against them. The @Oakland game this past season was a total anomaly compared to how we've ACTUALLY played them since Patriot Way happened.

In order to affect THAT kind of change, it needs to come from the coach and it needs to come from the quarterback. The QB can be vocal and hard working and all that bullshit, but in the end the QB has to lead by DOING on the field against tough division games. That's something I have yet to see Cassel do.

Serious question. Does anybody here recall a time that Cassel had a great game against a division rival? I can't ****ing think of a single goddamned one.

Embarrassing. :facepalm:
Most people pro-Cassel will point to either the @ Broncos in 2010 when he threw for like 450 against the prevent defense or MNF against the Chargers this past year where he "lead" the Chiefs game-winning drive in OT. Seriously......that's it, and even those are REALLY arguable.


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