Need him or no; you should probably sit him anyway. They can't let the groin injury linger and if it pops on him again, you may be looking at a month or more out.

Besides, something's not been right with him anyway this year. Let him have a seat for a week and see if it re-charges him. He just appears so much less engaged than he was last season. He doesn't appear to be at all involved with the team.

He's always been such an upbeat, openly bubbly guy out there and right now it's just not there. He's not getting fired up with his teammates and all the gesticulating and trash talking you'd see from him on the field appears to have vanished.

He looks like he's just going through the motions out there.

Literally had to make an account to call you out on this.

As the playoffs unfolded- this one's also for the guy that said Cam can't throw Olsen open.
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Throwing for 5 tds in 3 separate games and winning the MVP is not a fluke. I also find it funny how you're talking sh*t about our QB when, well, just look at y'all's quarterback situation. Don't act like you wouldn't take Cam in less than a heartbeat over Alex Smith. I do think y'all have a solid chance of winning this game but I just couldn't let this one slide.

And for the most part I really respect the posts in this thread, a lot more intelligent than what you get on most other fan bases forums and I've only heard great things about y'alls fan base. Other than this week, good luck on y'alls season.

Literally had to hit reply to tell you to kill yourself.

Haha I feel that.

That picture makes my skin crawl

I couldnt agree more with DJs take on Maclin... he definitely needs to sit this week, groins are notorious for lingering forever and even getting much worse if they arent allowed to fully heal

Also what he said about Mac just not looking right this year, the friend dying surely has something to do with it, but I dont think thats the whole story... its easy for me to wonder if the lack of big numbers is starting to wear on him

I've got to believe that the Personal Foul's will be going both ways since Smith was also the victim of what should have been a PF that knocked him out of the game and missed a week of football.

Agreed. I know Houston is practicing this week, and people are stoked - as they should be - but they will bring him back very slowly.

This. I chalked it up early to the death of his friend a few weeks back, and maybe that is still it, but I was hoping that he'd have shaken it off. Chiefs definitely need him to shake whatever it is off.

Sometimes the simple jokes are the best.

Welcome. The more reasonable fans of other teams on this site, the better. Plenty of rival fans have homes here, as long as you can take the insults for what they are. Also, don't lose sleep over what Uppercut has to say.

I think Houston needs to at least be active for this game. Let him be there just in case. This is going to be a tough ass game, and we can't afford to go on a skid...

12-4 gets us the division and a bye, and we have to have that in order to have a chance this year.

Thank you sir (or ma'am) and same thing applies to the huddle if you want to venture over there.

Cam Newton made Ted Ginn into a serviceable receiver.

Ted. ****ing. Ginn.

Matt Cassel made Dwayne Bowe an All Pro because he just didn't care if he was open or not - he was force-feeding him the ball.

It's not like Ginn actually became any sort of versatile, rounded receiver. He still caught less than half the balls thrown his direction; he just caught them a long way down field. Nobody ever questioned Cam Newton's arm strength.

Newton isn't an accurate passer and he's not a strong decision-maker. It doesn't really matter because he's a one-off; there's nobody in the league like him and he's damn difficult to play if he's feeling it that day. But it's not because he's going to suddenly sit back there and pick defenses apart.

He's a guy that can use absurd physical talent to bowl over defenses and if they cheat up to stop it, chuck it over their heads. He's a unique guy that's hard to deal with. But he's not a guy that I'm worried about suddenly turning Funchess into a difference maker or making Kelvin Benjamin more than the poor man's Bowe he's become.

To be fair defenses worried more about Olsen.

But seriously. Imagine if KC were in the SB with Kelce and Donnie Avery leading the team in receiving yards. The amount of jerking over how awesome Smith is as a QB would be ceaseless.

Sup dude

This is a fair point

He is having a shitty year so far, but I would argue that Cam was slicing and dicing from the pocket last year... reading coverages, looking off safeties, the whole bit

Well until they lost.

Then it would be "Smith just isn't good enough if his defense doesn't carry the entire load for him; 15-1 don't mean shit if you can't finish in the post-season..."

Hey, I'd trade Smith for Newton in a heartbeat, I'm just saying that we shouldn't make him more than he is. He's not a good passer but he's a tough matchup...when he feels like it.

But when "the game isn't fun" for him, he just puts it in neutral and is generally ineffective.

Can't fault that. I do have to wonder if Cam has the gigabytes for Andy, though.

I'm still trying to think of how many quarterbacks I could come up with that would ever go to a press conference and whine that the officials are making the game not fun for them anymore.

I try not to go too far down the 'modern athlete' road but jesus, if that's not a statement as to the sorry state of the modern superstar, I'm not sure what is.

Hochuli pretty much said he didn't earn enough credibility to earn roughing calls. And then he got repeatedly headshotted on national TV to begin the year.

Regardless of the millions I had coming to me, I wouldn't call getting blatant penalties ignored "fun".

It's his job. Fun's got nothing to do with it.

It's absolute shit leadership and provides some degree of validation for every 'front-runner' charge that's ever been leveled at him.

I find him to be a very likable, personable guy... but you're right, he comes off as a baby waaay too much, the woe is me stuff is unbecoming of a franchise leader, no doubt

In fairness, some of the uncalled hits are pathetic and need to be addressed by the league... but he shouldnt be seen to whine about it like he does, he needs to set the example for his team, keep a stiff upper lip and let his organization deal with it behind the scenes

Why would you wonder that?

He's likely going to have severe mental issues and physical issues due to hits he really shouldn't be taken and hits that should if called evenly for every QB, be illegal. It's not like hes saying taking legal hits makes the game not fun.

No matter how much you like something or how fun it is, if too much bullshit is added to it, it gets less fun. So even if he likes football and enjoys the physicality of it, at a certain point, if you see you're getting cheap shotted and your team isn't even benefiting from those cheap shots by flags, then the game starts becoming less fun.
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Oh no doubt; the Broncos game was vicious.

But that's Rivera's job. Cam goes out there, gives credit to his team and says that he'll keep taking the blows to get them the Ws.

Then Ron Rivera raises holy hell.

I don't doubt his team is doing stuff behind the scenes, but Godell needs to be called out publicly for the horrific level of officiating in the nfl these days. If there's public pressure to change, then he might change.
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Its easy to agree that those uncalled hits are just a symptom of a much wider problem with officiating

Cam got his statement in at the presser and had the meeting with Godell, now he should leave it to his coach/team IMO

Curious as to why you think Cam should keep his mouth shut because he's expected to be a leader but Rivera, who leads Cam himself, is allowed to be vocal..

Good way to describe him. Makes me think of Michael Vick and Jeff George. Strong arm, not an accurate passer, not a strong decision maker.

Thanks for the reply you insecure little prick. Your "MVP" single handedly lost you the Lombardi as he was exposed as the most overrated player of 2015. He continues to prove my point with his performance this season. Enjoy missing the playoffs :clap:

That was about as cool an opening post as I've seen a rival fan make, he isnt the one being an insecure little prick

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Nah Denver was being gifted that Super Farce no matter how he played that day. Just like week 1 in pile high. "He hasn't earned that reputation " **** NFL officiating.

Russell Wilson > Cam Newton

NFL viewership is down 20% because of that game. People aren't totally stupid. They ruined the league with that farce.

Show me proof. A survey poll. Something to back your argument.

Don't need it. The numbers don't lie. The game was a total shitshow with gag inducing product placement to boot.

Sounds scientific.

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That guy has been polite.

Why do you keep posting this shit?

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No one knows Ron Rivera better than Andy Reid

Watching Parker try to tackle Cam Newton should be entertaining or sad, depending on your point of view.

I sure the hell hope Chiefs practice against the bootleg this week. ****ing bootleg Ryan Simms ****ing bootleg ****ing Ryan Simms ****ing bootleg ****ing Ryan Simms

oh yeah Welcome to Chiefs Planet Panthersfan4life I hope your stay hear is pleasant and it's a good contest that the Panthers come up short in.

Never mind that dweeb Tigerboob he is a bronco fan we don't claim him here.

That's just mean Laz.

Accurate, but mean.

It's a sure sign of culturally where we are at with the cult of personality and the extreme narcissistic entitled mentality especially with celebrities under the age of 35, that if anything becomes very difficult to achieve "just whine". What would Lombardi do with Cam Newton if he pulled this crap ?

If Sutton throws a lot of looks at him and we have decent pressure on him we should be fine. Cam still struggles to read defenses and what play to audible to. Who will be our spy you think ??

So Tiger is a donco sympathizer...pathetic

Lol dude you clearly just don't watch our games. Look at what he did last season with the receivers we had (kb was out). He threw for 35 tds and won the MVP. This was with Ginn as our WR 1. Ted Ginn, as our WR 1. Let that sink in. Behind Ginn he had 50 year old Cotchery, undrafted Cory Brown, and rookie Funch. Yes we still had Olsen but he was constantly double teamed. Finished with the number 1 offense with those guys.

I also don't get all the Alex Smith hate around here, 70% completion and only 2 ints. I'll admit I haven't been watching y'all, what gives?

And now TU has shown his ass for no reason and welcome to *plonk*ville.

Us Panthers fans have been hoping that Cam would just let the front office do the the talking and have Cam stay quiet on the issue but unfortunately that hasn't really been the case.

Thats the thing, Ron, Gettleman, and Jerry Richardson have unfortunately all failed to do that.

I'm not the one calling people names that I don't know over the internet. If you actually understand football you know that a game is never single handendly lost bu one player. I just had to correct your inaccurate assessment.

Suhhh du

How often does Cam do the bootleg?

Do yourself a favor and don't respond to anything he says.

Lmao not nearly as much as you'd think.

Two, three, Five times a game? I mean I still have nightmares of Ryan Simms years ago get burnt over and over so I think it's something for the Chiefs to be concerned about with Cam even today with Dee Ford and Tamba Hali I shouldn't have to worry about it. Dee Ford should be all over Cam I hope he is but I know Cam is able to get away and get loose. So I think I have a valid concern.

Remember Elway used to bootleg us to death

He is a 49er fan. What do you expect.

Keep posting man. Ignore blackbob.

So did Bubby Brister, Brian Griese and Jake Plummer.

The strength of the Panthers last season was their run dominant offense where running comprised half of plays (Ranked 2nd out of 32 in rate of running the football). To put that into perspective, Brady was passing on 2/3 of all plays.

I said it earlier this year, Rivera did a fantastic job covering up Cam's inefficiencies and unleashed him where he's best...in the red zone. But Cam is an injury liability now running the ball. The future in Carolina hinges upon Stewart and rebuilding that dominant defense....

You can fondle yourself all you want over the deep balls that worked against garbage teams but that trick wasn't happening on the solid defenses. Facts, not fiction.

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Don't be surprised if you don't see it a single time, if thats what you're really worried about you shouldn't be lol. But then again who knows maybe Shula has a different gameplan for the Chiefs that involves hella bootlegs.

Haha my intention was to just post here this week but you guys are making me want to stick around, preciate the love.

It's 2016 and Eric Hicks *still* can't resist getting sucked in on bootlegs.

If we can just keep Kelse from throwing so many flags.

The Panthers have always been my NFC team I like to see win since the Jake Delhomme days.

I don't think we're going to be able to run the ball successfully at all, so, I actually think we would really need Maclin now if he can go...

It's pretty simple when you look at the numbers. Carolina shuts down the run game, and they are a sieve against the pass. Tyreek Hill should be targeted deep 3-5 times. Maclin and Conley a couple too (if Maclin plays)...

I expect Sutton to use the 3-3-5 defense plenty this week to counter their run game and their strong interior OL. Ford-Howard-Poe-Jones-Hali on the front wall (assuming Houston is out), DJ in the middle to roam free, and your secondary guys to cover.

I think Conley comes through with a big game this week.

I still believe we come up short, though.

It just feels like a poor matchup for us. They shut down the run, and they run it pretty well. Goes against us big time. I do think our run D will get a huge boost with Houston when he is full go, though. Teams don't even bother trying to run at him.

On the flip side, we should get ample pressure on Cam while I'm not sure they will without blitzing against the Chiefs. The loss of Ehinger hurt the run game, but it probably improved our pass protection slightly.

I agree with all of that. Their run game versus what I've seen of our Run D lately is kind of alarming.

It's going to take our A game to win there i think. Go CHIEFS!!!

**** tigerbob. He's the guy who always gets picked on and is trying to look cool by talking shit to you.

Stick around, or don't.

Yep. But he got away with lots of throws past the LOS. I really wish they had the red line on the screen back then like they do now. Then everyone would have seen it. I swear sometimes he was 5 yards or more past the line and would throw the pass complete, but no flag. Ugh! Frustrating. Dirty cheating Donks. Always have been, always will be.

I've always liked the Panthers and their fanbase. My two best friends, some buddies from high school, and a former NCO of mine are all Panther fans, and they're all cool as ****. I don't think I've ever met an obnoxious Panthers fan.

Channeling your inner Smed?