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jettio 05-05-2023 10:11 PM

Jake Eisenberg was on the TV with Rex Hudler tonight.

IMO has a nice pleasant voice and attitude. I had the game on a screen that I could hear but was not watching until the game got close and I got to watch Royals fall apart again.

I think Eisenberg did a good job of sounding positive without being a phony like Steve Physioc.

ChiefsCountry 05-05-2023 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 16935283)
LMAO Yeesh. Dude probably got himself fired for this one.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">For those asking why Glen Kuiper just made an on-air apology, here&#39;s why. <a href="https://t.co/k1we7gf3GT">pic.twitter.com/k1we7gf3GT</a></p>&mdash; Timothy Burke (@bubbaprog) <a href="https://twitter.com/bubbaprog/status/1654679569117372416?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 6, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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Ocotillo 05-05-2023 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 16935283)
LMAO Yeesh. Dude probably got himself fired for this one.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">For those asking why Glen Kuiper just made an on-air apology, here&#39;s why. <a href="https://t.co/k1we7gf3GT">pic.twitter.com/k1we7gf3GT</a></p>&mdash; Timothy Burke (@bubbaprog) <a href="https://twitter.com/bubbaprog/status/1654679569117372416?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 6, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

It's obvious he mispronounced the words.

He's talking about how wonderful his day was going to the Negro Leagues Baseball Museum. Doesn't context matter anymore?

BWillie 05-06-2023 01:08 AM

The team leader in war is....Kyle Isbel.

Ocotillo 05-06-2023 01:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16935386)
The team leader in war is....Kyle Isbel.

And he's out.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Kyle Isbel To Miss Six Weeks With Grade 2 Hamstring Strain <a href="https://t.co/TNbds9Ybw7">https://t.co/TNbds9Ybw7</a> <a href="https://t.co/EY2qkeSr6m">pic.twitter.com/EY2qkeSr6m</a></p>&mdash; MLB Trade Rumors (@mlbtraderumors) <a href="https://twitter.com/mlbtraderumors/status/1654598104883032067?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 5, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

WhawhaWhat 05-06-2023 01:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ocotillo (Post 16935357)
It's obvious he mispronounced the words.

He's talking about how wonderful his day was going to the Negro Leagues Baseball Museum. Doesn't context matter anymore?

In this case, not really.

Ocotillo 05-06-2023 01:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 16935388)
In this case, not really.

Why not?

On MLB.TV, I watch Athletics games just because of Glen Kuiper. I think he's one of the top 10 play-by-play broadcasters in MLB.

Judging by A's fans' social media posts, it seems like most of them are bummed that he could get fired over this because they love listening to him. Kuiper gives them a reason to tune into a team going nowhere and that's going to break their heart moving to Las Vegas.

It just bugs that me that outage from a few armchair pussies could wreck a guy's career that most fans like to listen to.

Ocotillo 05-06-2023 01:42 AM

This is a dick move by the A's. Totally gutless not to back your guy that you know made a human mistake.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The language used by Glen Kuiper during today’s pregame broadcast is unacceptable. The Oakland Athletics do not condone such language. We are working to address the situation.</p>&mdash; Oakland A&#39;s Communications (@AthleticsPR) <a href="https://twitter.com/AthleticsPR/status/1654705526746275841?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 6, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Ocotillo 05-06-2023 02:02 AM

The Royals have this distinction.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">33 games into the season and the A’s have collected their first win by a starter. Things are going great. <a href="https://t.co/TSg6Ds5BLt">https://t.co/TSg6Ds5BLt</a></p>&mdash; joey 2TL blightyears (@BRomes510) <a href="https://twitter.com/BRomes510/status/1654693199557033984?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 6, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

kstater 05-06-2023 05:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ocotillo (Post 16935391)
This is a dick move by the A's. Totally gutless not to back your guy that you know made a human mistake.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The language used by Glen Kuiper during today’s pregame broadcast is unacceptable. The Oakland Athletics do not condone such language. We are working to address the situation.</p>— Oakland A&#39;s Communications (@AthleticsPR) <a href="https://twitter.com/AthleticsPR/status/1654705526746275841?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 6, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Weird hill to die on.

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WhawhaWhat 05-06-2023 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ocotillo (Post 16935390)
Why not?

On MLB.TV, I watch Athletics games just because of Glen Kuiper. I think he's one of the top 10 play-by-play broadcasters in MLB.

Judging by A's fans' social media posts, it seems like most of them are bummed that he could get fired over this because they love listening to him. Kuiper gives them a reason to tune into a team going nowhere and that's going to break their heart moving to Las Vegas.

It just bugs that me that outage from a few armchair pussies could wreck a guy's career that most fans like to listen to.

I'm sure your search was very thorough. :rolleyes:

People still watched Dodgers games when Vin Scully retired. People still watched Reds games when Thom Brennaman was fired. If the A's get rid of Glen Kuiper, the 25 people that watch A's games on TV will still be watching.

dlphg9 05-06-2023 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ocotillo (Post 16935391)
This is a dick move by the A's. Totally gutless not to back your guy that you know made a human mistake.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The language used by Glen Kuiper during today’s pregame broadcast is unacceptable. The Oakland Athletics do not condone such language. We are working to address the situation.</p>&mdash; Oakland A&#39;s Communications (@AthleticsPR) <a href="https://twitter.com/AthleticsPR/status/1654705526746275841?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 6, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Lmao, how is that a mistake? I've never heard someone mistakingly call it the N word museum.

Ocotillo 05-06-2023 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 16935488)
People still watched Reds games when Thom Brennaman was fired. If the A's get rid of Glen Kuiper, the 25 people that watch A's games on TV will still be watching.

Let's get this straight.

Thom Brennaman said a disparaging, hateful remark with intent and he deserved what he got. He was an asshole and he really wasn't beloved by his fanbase.

Vladimir_Kyrilytch 05-06-2023 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 16935495)
Lmao, how is that a mistake? I've never heard someone mistakingly call it the N word museum.

Yes you have. Cause that's what happened.

Or you figure this guy's secret plan was to go into broadcasting, have major success with it, get himself regarded as the best in the business, then keep at it for 35 years of pure quality....just for the perfect May day in 2023 to intentionally call the Negro league musuem the hard-R museum? To get himself fired and canceled, why, as an epic long-con troll job? That was his 35 year master plan?

I feel compelled to teach you the principle of Occam's razor. It could help you a lot with critical thinking. Come see me during my office hours post haste.

jettio 05-06-2023 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ocotillo (Post 16935391)
This is a dick move by the A's. Totally gutless not to back your guy that you know made a human mistake.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The language used by Glen Kuiper during today’s pregame broadcast is unacceptable. The Oakland Athletics do not condone such language. We are working to address the situation.</p>&mdash; Oakland A&#39;s Communications (@AthleticsPR) <a href="https://twitter.com/AthleticsPR/status/1654705526746275841?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 6, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Reasonable move to say unacceptable language that is not condoned.

Would be really damn dumb to never say anything.

I do not see anything about any decision about termination or suspension.

Maybe the guy makes an apology and donation to the fundraising drive that was announced earlier this week.

If you are going to judge the A's communications department so harshly and prematurely maybe you are not the dude that should set the standard.

Vladimir_Kyrilytch 05-06-2023 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jettio (Post 16935501)
Reasonable move to say unacceptable language that is not condoned.

Would be really damn dumb to never say anything.

I do not see anything about any decision about termination or suspension.

Maybe the guy makes an apology and donation to the fundraising drive that was announced earlier this week.

If you are going to judge the A's communications department so harshly and prematurely maybe you are not the dude that should set the standard.

I used to do SEC Reporting which is a game of nothing but public statements. "Working to address the situation" means "we have our lawyers looking into if we can fire him on the spot for cause or if we leave ourselves exposed to legal backlash if we do. We may need to negotiate a buyout where he announces himself that he has stepped down, but hopefully we can just fire him ASAP. Just waiting on legal to let us know how to proceed here"

jettio 05-06-2023 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vladimir_Kyrilytch (Post 16935515)
I used to do SEC Reporting which is a game of nothing but public statements. "Working to address the situation" means "we have our lawyers looking into if we can fire him on the spot for cause or if we leave ourselves exposed to legal backlash if we do. We may need to negotiate a buyout where he announces himself that he has stepped down, but hopefully we can just fire him ASAP. Just waiting on legal to let us know how to proceed here"

Well, this is California and everyone remembers Veronica Corningstone and her teleprompter prank.

cmh6476 05-06-2023 09:50 AM

going tonight to support locain

lewdog 05-06-2023 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jettio (Post 16935317)
Jake Eisenberg was on the TV with Rex Hudler tonight.

IMO has a nice pleasant voice and attitude. I had the game on a screen that I could hear but was not watching until the game got close and I got to watch Royals fall apart again.

I think Eisenberg did a good job of sounding positive without being a phony like Steve Physioc.

I thought he sucked. Every hard hit ball was unneeded inflection. Like fans gasping on every hard hit ball like a home run. This isn’t like announcing the WWE. Some really dumb positive comments too.

dlphg9 05-06-2023 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vladimir_Kyrilytch (Post 16935500)
Yes you have. Cause that's what happened.

Or you figure this guy's secret plan was to go into broadcasting, have major success with it, get himself regarded as the best in the business, then keep at it for 35 years of pure quality....just for the perfect May day in 2023 to intentionally call the Negro league musuem the hard-R museum? To get himself fired and canceled, why, as an epic long-con troll job? That was his 35 year master plan?

I feel compelled to teach you the principle of Occam's razor. It could help you a lot with critical thinking. Come see me during my office hours post haste.

I just don't Ocotillo very much, so I decided to argue. I've heard a bunch of people that say negro leagues and it sounds very close to the n word. Like most of 610's hosts will do it, hell some lady during a HOF speech (I believe) called it the N word museum. A lot of people say it really weird and don't emphasize the NE- and so it sounds a bit off.

BWillie 05-06-2023 10:54 AM

I get either reaction but this word is constantly on the mind of white ppl because they are so afraid of it. When you get nervous or uncomfortable sometimes these things can happen. I doubt he says negro on a daily basis and was flustered.

kstater 05-06-2023 11:12 AM

If it was a slip of the tongue, his reaction would be an oh shit and immediate correction. I’m guessing it’s an inside joke between the announcers that led to the slip up. I just don’t know how you can reconcile saying that and not be immediately be horrified with yourself, even if the intent wasn’t there.

Why Not? 05-06-2023 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 16935560)
Like fans gasping on every hard hit ball like a home run.

Yeah, what's up with that? I was at the game last night and every time a Royals player hit a ball in the air, half the crowd acted like it was a 500ft moonshot. Get some depth perception or something people! You know which balls you knew were homers though? The two softball home run derby balls that Tomato Can Keller served up. A blind person could tell those two were headed for the seats.

Fansy the Famous Bard 05-06-2023 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Why Not? (Post 16935654)
Yeah, what's up with that? I was at the game last night and every time a Royals player hit a ball in the air, half the crowd acted like it was a 500ft moonshot. Get some depth perception or something people! You know which balls you knew were homers though? The two softball home run derby balls that Tomato Can Keller served up. A blind person could tell those two were headed for the seats.

They were just excited to see contact.

Prison Bitch 05-06-2023 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kstater (Post 16935608)
If it was a slip of the tongue, his reaction would be an oh shit and immediate correction. I’m guessing it’s an inside joke between the announcers that led to the slip up. I just don’t know how you can reconcile saying that and not be immediately be horrified with yourself, even if the intent wasn’t there.

I’d put the odds of this at about 0%

jettio 05-06-2023 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 16935560)
I thought he sucked. Every hard hit ball was unneeded inflection. Like fans gasping on every hard hit ball like a home run. This isn’t like announcing the WWE. Some really dumb positive comments too.

Well, I was not watching every pitch so maybe.

Why Not? 05-06-2023 02:12 PM

ROFL
Quote:

Originally Posted by Fansy the Famous Bard (Post 16935710)
They were just excited to see contact.


Vladimir_Kyrilytch 05-06-2023 02:23 PM

The Royals need to let Zack Greinke DH. He's always wanted to be a position player / hitter so he would be 100% down. He's a legitimately better hitter than I would guess 4-6 of the Royal regulars.

For his career, Zack Greinke has a .225/.262/.336 line, with a walk rate of 4.3% and a K-rate of 19.0%. That batting average is higher than Jackie Bradley Junior this season and about on par with Bobby Witt Junior. It's way better than Nicky Lopez. That K-rate is far better than MJ Melendez (25.8%) and the godawful Pratto (36.8%). Nate Eaton has put up a 52.0% K-rate for ****s sake! Greinke has pop too - he's hit 9 bombs in a bit less than a season's worth of PAs (600). Greinke has never gotten regular, every day ABs, and if he did, he could hit well better than his career marks.

In conclusion, Greinke is one of the 9 best hitters on the team and only Pasquantino is legitimately, demonstrably better. It's a waste to have him not hit when they have far worse hitters getting regular playing time. The fans would love it, Greinke would love it, attendance figures would love it. What's the risk? The Royals lose more games than they have been?

lewdog 05-06-2023 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jettio (Post 16935778)
Well, I was not watching every pitch so maybe.

He has a very good voice and sound, but I was disappointed with the delivery. Maybe it will improve a bit over time.

WhawhaWhat 05-06-2023 03:31 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Lorenzo Cain signs his one-day contract to retire with the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Royals?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Royals</a> <a href="https://t.co/JKRYfXHKk0">pic.twitter.com/JKRYfXHKk0</a></p>&mdash; Anne Rogers (@anne__rogers) <a href="https://twitter.com/anne__rogers/status/1654957003255545856?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 6, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

KCUnited 05-06-2023 03:41 PM

This level of suck AND blatant racism has reopened old wounds

https://i.imgur.com/AndoSpq.jpg

jettio 05-06-2023 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 16935833)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Lorenzo Cain signs his one-day contract to retire with the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Royals?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Royals</a> <a href="https://t.co/JKRYfXHKk0">pic.twitter.com/JKRYfXHKk0</a></p>&mdash; Anne Rogers (@anne__rogers) <a href="https://twitter.com/anne__rogers/status/1654957003255545856?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 6, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

If 29-1 longshot Raise Cain finishes in the money in Kentucky Derby today.....

cmh6476 05-06-2023 04:57 PM

This is fn awesome, you guys

kysirsoze 05-06-2023 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ocotillo (Post 16935357)
It's obvious he mispronounced the words.

He's talking about how wonderful his day was going to the Negro Leagues Baseball Museum. Doesn't context matter anymore?

Sure. That's why he wasn't fired immediately. I think this will blow over (and should) but Jesus Christ. As a broadcaster, not saying that specific word is basically priority number one. It is also weird he didn't immediately correct himself and apologize profusely. Did he somehow not realize he said it? How is that possible?

ChiefsFanatic 05-06-2023 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kysirsoze (Post 16935909)
Sure. That's why he wasn't fired immediately. I think this will blow over (and should) but Jesus Christ. As a broadcaster, not saying that specific word is basically priority number one. It is also weird he didn't immediately correct himself and apologize profusely. Did he somehow not realize he said it? How is that possible?

I think the only way you accidentally use that word instead of Negro, is if you use it, have used it, and are comfortable using it.

lewdog 05-06-2023 06:35 PM

All our arms ****ing suck.

cmh6476 05-06-2023 06:37 PM

We fn blow, you guys

Sassy Squatch 05-06-2023 06:45 PM

Damn. Isn't that his second jack in the series?

cmh6476 05-06-2023 07:06 PM

We would be good if every team had to play 9 catchers

Ocotillo 05-06-2023 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic (Post 16935922)
I think the only way you accidentally use that word instead of Negro, is if you use it, have used it, and are comfortable using it.

You're not a psychologist. Nobody can make this claim with 100% certainty that's the case. You're going to fire a guy based on something that can't be proven true?

What if Kuiper doesn't use the word, but it's in his brain from reading literature and watching cinema.

dlphg9 05-06-2023 07:32 PM

God damn, this pitching is just such garbage. Dayton Moore was here from 2006-2022, thru 16 years of drafts and international signings. Multiple top 10 picks and not one time was he able to draft or develop a true ace. At his best Duffy was a #2 and that was a brief stint. Ventura was a high #2, but that's it for his draft and development success. So many guys that never amounted to shit. Multiple 1st round guys that never touched or only touched the ML because everyone else sucked as well. The guy was an absolute clown and thank God he's gone. It'd be unbearable with him running this team.

Daytons absolute incompetence should have lucked into a couple of stud pitchers.

I'm not sure what to think of Piccolo, but at least he's embraced an analytical approach, so maybe they can churn out something other than complete dog shit.

Chiefspants 05-06-2023 07:37 PM

JBJ with a Lorenzo Cain like webgem.

Sassy Squatch 05-06-2023 07:37 PM

Singer regressing into a complete bumpkin is highly concerning.

Chiefspants 05-06-2023 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 16936014)
Singer regressing into a complete bumpkin is highly concerning.

Yep. We desperately need one of Lynch, Bubic or Singer to develop as a 2.

Right now there's a real concern that all of them will bust.

Sassy Squatch 05-06-2023 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 16936016)
Yep. We desperately need one of Lynch, Bubic or Singer to develop as a 2.

Right now there's a real concern that all of them will bust.

Is it the staff now or was last year just a fluke and this is who he is?

lewdog 05-06-2023 08:34 PM

Do we have one arm worth a shit?

Please let me know!!!!

Mecca 05-06-2023 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 16936021)
Is it the staff now or was last year just a fluke and this is who he is?

Singer had some peripherals that said last year was a bit fluky for him...

Al Bundy 05-06-2023 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 16936016)
Yep. We desperately need one of Lynch, Bubic or Singer to develop as a 2.

Right now there's a real concern that all of them will bust.

They are all busts, the previous regime could not find a single pitcher worth a shit.

KCUnited 05-06-2023 08:43 PM

Dayton’s no porn policy atrophied all their arms

Mecca 05-06-2023 08:56 PM

It's time to just admit it, the Royals haven't drafted for shit in long time.. especially pitching. They took all these guys and also stuck them in a system that isn't great at developing players.

They thej promote Moore's right hand man to GM..the vast majority of the organization stays the same..where are the outside voices in the front office?

I'm sorry this is more of the same and if this was a complete tank job rebuild from ground zero, hope there's a handful of major leaguers in the system this.f...then you completely start over.

The Royals are trying to do a halfass change move and it's blowing up in their faces.

ChiefsCountry 05-06-2023 09:23 PM

Bart was Dorsey's right hand man and that turned out okay. Low level pitchers in the minors seem to be doing okay to start the season. I think let's wait until after the draft to see what they have in mind. Going to need some top 3 draft picks to rebuild this right. Seems nobody has the patience fo that

BlackHelicopters 05-06-2023 09:23 PM

They blow goats.

Mecca 05-06-2023 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 16936072)
Bart was Dorsey's right hand man and that turned out okay. Low level pitchers in the minors seem to be doing okay to start the season. I think let's wait until after the draft to see what they have in mind. Going to need some top 3 draft picks to rebuild this right. Seems nobody has the patience fo that

Nobody does when they're asking for a stadium.

And Dorsey was never the pure liquid shit Moore was for most of his run.

jerryaldini 05-06-2023 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16936061)
It's time to just admit it, the Royals haven't drafted for shit in long time.. especially pitching. They took all these guys and also stuck them in a system that isn't great at developing players.

They thej promote Moore's right hand man to GM..the vast majority of the organization stays the same..where are the outside voices in the front office?

I'm sorry this is more of the same and if this was a complete tank job rebuild from ground zero, hope there's a handful of major leaguers in the system this.f...then you completely start over.

The Royals are trying to do a halfass change move and it's blowing up in their faces.

Best course would be to start over with the guys currently in Columbia and Quad Cities and build from there. The 2018 pitchers busted and the rest of the 24-26 year olds in the current wave aren't getting them there.

cmh6476 05-06-2023 09:28 PM

The royals are my favorite shittiest team ever

Mecca 05-06-2023 09:39 PM

The Royals have had 2 successfully seasons in the last 30 years and want 2 billion for their downtown stadium project.

I don't wanna hear jack shit about patience.

tk13 05-06-2023 10:25 PM

It's a month into a new pitching regime after years in the stone ages. Just have to let it play out at this point. Some guys will get it and some will bust. You're just not going to know anything yet. We're definitely going to see how these coaches learn and how they are at developing individual plans for guys.

WhawhaWhat 05-06-2023 11:02 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">An emotional Lorenzo Cain is honored at The K with an on-field retirement ceremony.<br><br>Thank you, LoCain for all the memories and retiring a Kansas City Royal. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Royals?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Royals</a> <a href="https://t.co/7BpXK9IZf3">pic.twitter.com/7BpXK9IZf3</a></p>&mdash; Bally Sports Kansas City (@BallySportsKC) <a href="https://twitter.com/BallySportsKC/status/1654986079143903232?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 6, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Ocotillo 05-06-2023 11:45 PM

Mason Barnett, the Royals' 2022 third round pick out of Auburn, had seven Ks and three walks in five innings in a start with high Single-A Quad Cities Saturday. His season ERA is at 2.49. He entered the day with a 31.7% strikeout rate (I love this!) and a 13.4% walk rate (needs to get that down).

BWillie 05-06-2023 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 16936016)
Yep. We desperately need one of Lynch, Bubic or Singer to develop as a 2.

Right now there's a real concern that all of them will bust.

Lynch will always suck.

Kowar will work at QT soon.

Singer may be a #4 when he's not sucking balls.

Either way this crop of pitchers we thought would be good blow ass.

ChiefsFanatic 05-07-2023 03:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ocotillo (Post 16936005)
You're not a psychologist. Nobody can make this claim with 100% certainty that's the case. You're going to fire a guy based on something that can't be proven true?



What if Kuiper doesn't use the word, but it's in his brain from reading literature and watching cinema.

Would you ever accidentally say that word?

Because I sure the **** would never say it accidentally, or on purpose.

If you want to make excuses for the person, that's your business. My post didn't say fire him, or don't fire him. He isn't an announcer for my team, so IDGAF.

But, acting like mistaking the N word for Negro is just a slip of the tongue is ridiculous.

But, maybe you say it a lot, or sing it when you listen to music, or whatever, but I know it's not a slip of the tongue.

KCUnited 05-07-2023 06:28 AM

How the Royals organization views their message to the fans vs how it really looks

https://i.imgur.com/bEpyKPa.jpg

duncan_idaho 05-07-2023 06:48 AM

Just not a lot of room for optimism right now.

The steps back that Singer and Keller have taken (Singer from last year's break through, Keller from his early-season success with the new pitches) is disappointing.

Pasquantino looks like a true lineup centerpiece, at least. I hope they're exploring an extension with him.

On Witt, his defense has stabilized/been better this season (he's pacing to be a slightly above-average defender per bWAR and a very good defender per fWR). He has a few positive indicators on his offensive performance but is overall about the same guy.

If the defense stabilizes here and the offense stays where it's at, Witt is a good player but not a superstar you build your team around. If the offense jumps up and the defense stays here, then you're back to more of the top end of his profile.

I haven't been plugged in to the team or the minors like usual (Mrs. Idaho broke her leg a few weeks back, taking the kids roller skating, so life around here is... busy) but what I have tracked from stat lines is a mixed bag.

Low-A shows Frank Mozzicato and Shane Panzini performing well, and Kudrna has some improved peripherals but bad overall stats. No hitters there, really, of note

Cayden Wallace is having a nice start at High A (which would be exciting if Gavin Cross wasn't performing so poorly). There are a trio of pitchers at High A (Noah Cameron, Luinder Avila, and Mason Barnett) who are putting up nice numbers.

At AA, Peyton Wilson is the only hitter worth watching (rest of the lineup is mostly old non-prospect types, though Luca Tresh is there, too... but not doing much). Alec Marsh is continuing his good start, with a drastically improved walk rate. I did dig into him a little bit, and the reports I've been able to find on his stuff/pitches are positive (no loss of velocity or movement) so that may be a piece moving forward. He's always had dynamite stuff/arm, just no command or idea what he's doing out there. Lefty Anthony Veneziano has taken a nice step forward, and has been dominant. Both of these guys are old (25) for the level, though, so it may also just be experience paying off. They still might get something out of Yefri del Rosario, too. He's continuing to slowly, steadily progress.

At AAA, Nick Loftin has hit for nice power but his average is down. They've called up Maikel Garcia, who is probably the most exciting guy at the level. Some 2022 breakouts (Tyler Gentry, Tucker Bradley) have scuffled, and the pitching staff is mostly non-prospects (Austn Cox was fine before his promotion but nothing crazy.

They're still my team, and I still will follow as I can, and I'll still root for success. But if you want to tell me they didn't make drastic enough changes to the staff, I don't know that there's much to argue to the contrary as it stands right now.

2023 draft is coming up. Will be interesting to see if the draft philosophy is any different, at all.

crayzkirk 05-07-2023 07:34 AM

Didn't make it to the end of the game last night; it sure looked like the A's were trying to give the game away by leaving their pitcher in for 110+ pitches. Anyways, I've maintained that the reason the Royals are unsuccessful is that they trade away their prospects; that assessment isn't really correct. The issue, as I see it, is that once their talent enters free agency, they are unable to keep the team together. Teams with the larger market, like Yankees, Dodgers, etc., are able to resign their free agents and continue to build talent.

Not sure how to recapture the 2014-15 success without another deal that brings in a number of players that gel with the current rookies. I believe that success was just a blind hog finding an acorn.

The pitching is a major disappointment and it looks like most of the hitters are trying for the five run homer every time they are up. These teams look just like the ones from the late 80s, 90s, 00s and half of 10s. Bad management, bad coaching, bad players.

Titty Meat 05-07-2023 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 16936072)
Bart was Dorsey's right hand man and that turned out okay. Low level pitchers in the minors seem to be doing okay to start the season. I think let's wait until after the draft to see what they have in mind. Going to need some top 3 draft picks to rebuild this right. Seems nobody has the patience fo that

The comparison to Moore/Doesey is a bad comparison man.

Also preaching patience to a fan base that has one of the longest active playoff droughts while the owner demands a new stadium is pretty tone deaf

GloryDayz 05-07-2023 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 16936220)
How the Royals organization views their message to the fans vs how it really looks

https://i.imgur.com/bEpyKPa.jpg

ROFLROFLROFL

ChiefsCountry 05-07-2023 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crayzkirk (Post 16936245)
Didn't make it to the end of the game last night; it sure looked like the A's were trying to give the game away by leaving their pitcher in for 110+ pitches. Anyways, I've maintained that the reason the Royals are unsuccessful is that they trade away their prospects; that assessment isn't really correct. The issue, as I see it, is that once their talent enters free agency, they are unable to keep the team together. Teams with the larger market, like Yankees, Dodgers, etc., are able to resign their free agents and continue to build talent.

Not sure how to recapture the 2014-15 success without another deal that brings in a number of players that gel with the current rookies. I believe that success was just a blind hog finding an acorn.

The pitching is a major disappointment and it looks like most of the hitters are trying for the five run homer every time they are up. These teams look just like the ones from the late 80s, 90s, 00s and half of 10s. Bad management, bad coaching, bad players.

Who have the Royals lost in free agency because of money in the last decade? They kept Perez and Gordon. It's really only Hosmer and they dodged a bullet there because they offered the same amount money wise that San Diego did but Padres front loaded it and the Royals backloaded the contract. Cain was older going into free agency and injury risk, so it made no sense to resign him especially with his style of play.

WilliamTheIrish 05-07-2023 09:11 AM

Vids Blue. RIP.

What a pitcher he was. Got in a little trouble while with the Royals in 83, but man he was such a stud. Will never forget that 1971 season where he was practically unbeatable.

BWillie 05-07-2023 10:27 AM

Battle of the shitbirds today. Who can come out on top?

poolboy 05-07-2023 11:16 AM

its the Battle for Last Place in MLB

Prison Bitch 05-07-2023 11:31 AM

So what’s his new nickname?

Brady Stinker
Brady Dinger

KCUnited 05-07-2023 11:42 AM

Soon as the schedule lightens up we go on our run!

Prison Bitch 05-07-2023 11:42 AM

Miggy Cabrera wrapping up one of the worst contracts in MLB history. Got a 8/248m deal before 2016. Right now he is 10-57 with 0hr.


Fangraphs value calculator says he’s returned about $20m of actual value in that deal. And 40M for 2016, meaning the last 7 years combined he’s been (20m) ROFL

Prison Bitch 05-07-2023 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by poolboy (Post 16936399)
its the Battle for Last Place in MLB

We can’t even get thru Oakland’s toothless lineup

If we played in the AL Beast we might not win 40 games

Mecca 05-07-2023 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crayzkirk (Post 16936245)
Didn't make it to the end of the game last night; it sure looked like the A's were trying to give the game away by leaving their pitcher in for 110+ pitches. Anyways, I've maintained that the reason the Royals are unsuccessful is that they trade away their prospects; that assessment isn't really correct. The issue, as I see it, is that once their talent enters free agency, they are unable to keep the team together. Teams with the larger market, like Yankees, Dodgers, etc., are able to resign their free agents and continue to build talent.

Not sure how to recapture the 2014-15 success without another deal that brings in a number of players that gel with the current rookies. I believe that success was just a blind hog finding an acorn.

The pitching is a major disappointment and it looks like most of the hitters are trying for the five run homer every time they are up. These teams look just like the ones from the late 80s, 90s, 00s and half of 10s. Bad management, bad coaching, bad players.

It's a mix, the Royals aren't going to compete for high end FAs. But the biggest problem they have is their inability to identify who in the system will be a legit major league player and who's fools gold..so they just keep them all, refusing to trade any of their prospects because they are deathly afraid of getting it wrong.

poolboy 05-07-2023 12:29 PM

Salvy Dong...number 7

poolboy 05-07-2023 12:43 PM

great bare handed play by M. Garcia...

Ocotillo 05-07-2023 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic (Post 16936193)

But, acting like mistaking the N word for Negro is just a slip of the tongue is ridiculous.

It's not like negro is a term that people are accustomed to saying either. It's a phased out word.

Negro Leagues is one of the few acceptable uses of the word.

It's not like Kuiper had a whole lot of practice saying negro.

poolboy 05-07-2023 01:06 PM

Im starting to like that Garcia guy

bringbackmarty 05-07-2023 01:11 PM

There's another video out there of Kuiper saying negro but it sounds like he's trying to get cute with the pronunciation and says nigrah or neegrah. Not his first time doing this. I think that's what he was doing - trying to get cute pronouncing a word he has no business getting cute with. Does that in and of itself make him a racist, maybe. It definitely means he's stupid as all hell so there's that.


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