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OnTheWarpath15 08-31-2009 12:49 PM
Good.

Should have happened in ****ing February.

ChiefGator 08-31-2009 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Buzz (Post 6017811)
Maybe Chan wanted to pass too much leading to Cassel getting hurt?
Or maybe Chan wanted to go into max protect and Haley thinks it is better to get more receivers out there for Cassel to see, rather than max protected and just one or two receivers in routes.

No real way to know is there...

Chiefnj2 08-31-2009 12:59 PM
Haley didn't really put Gailey in a position to succeed. Poor OL personnel, holding back guys like Bowe with the third team, having to play Thigpen, etc.

DeezNutz 08-31-2009 01:00 PM
If a pistol fires in an empty offense, will anyone hear it?

Sweet Daddy Hate 08-31-2009 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by tooge (Post 6018295)
Listening to Petro right now, and I think his "take", albeit his conspiracy theory is right on. He stated that he wonders if Haley just didn't say "look chan, we aren't gonna ever become the perennial playoff contenders and superbowl contenders running the spread with guys like Thigpen. We need better players to run OUR system, but they aren't all here now. We will do the best we can within OUR system." In other words, he would rather take the bumps with accurate pocket guys than Thigpen types and run his system. Chan probably disagrees and with a bit of arguing, Haley tells him he's done. Sounds good to me.
Sounds good to me too, and I hope it chaps Petro's dumb ass for the rest of the season.

Mr. Flopnuts 08-31-2009 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6018409)
I wonder what the reaction of Chiefs fans would be had the Raiders or Broncos performed the same move two weeks before the start of the season? Or if Carl had done it. Doesn't it seem a bit odd that it took weeks to come to a decision on a coach and a staff and then two weeks before the start of the season they decide to can the coach who has the 2nd or 3rd most important job on the team?
I would be laughing my ass off if this happened to any of our rivals. Instead I'm developing homicidal tendencies. Who planted the ****ing aids tree at 1 Arrowhead Drive?

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6018467)
Good.

Should have happened in ****ing February.
It should've happened in February. Not at the end of ****ing August. This is a cluster**** move. Do we know what we're doing? Apparently not.

OnTheWarpath15 08-31-2009 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 6018562)
I would be laughing my ass off if this happened to any of our rivals. Instead I'm developing homicidal tendencies. Who planted the ****ing aids tree at 1 Arrowhead Drive?



It should've happened in February. Not at the end of ****ing August. This is a cluster**** move. Do we know what we're doing? Apparently not.
As I said in another thread:

I'm just glad that Haley is holding EVERYONE accountable, not just the players.

Gailey's playcalling was just as predictable as last year. A few buddies and I were at the game Saturday, and were calling the plays with close to 80% accuracy. If the ****ing fans know what's coming, I'm pretty sure that opposing defenses know it as well.

bowener 08-31-2009 01:11 PM
Maybe the players will feel this wasnt a fair firing and then realize what that means.

I would hope if it isnt Chan's fault everything has sucked, then the players who have failed Chan and the offense (the Right side of the line) will take deep stock in who they are as men and players and realize that they need to get their shit together good enough to at least protect their ****ing QB on pass plays.

Maybe this was seen as a way to remove dead weight (Chan) and go with Haley as OC (which probably would have happened anyway). It could possibly light a fire under some guys asses hopefully.

Mr. Flopnuts 08-31-2009 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6018568)
As I said in another thread:

I'm just glad that Haley is holding EVERYONE accountable, not just the players.

Gailey's playcalling was just as predictable as last year. A few buddies and I were at the game Saturday, and were calling the plays with close to 80% accuracy. If the ****ing fans know what's coming, I'm pretty sure that opposing defenses know it as well.
I don't disagree, but they had enough game tape to make that decision long before now. I guess if he's taking over the playcalling that's one thing, but can he handle all of that? We'll see. I just don't understand the logic of making this call at the end of the preseason.

DeezNutz 08-31-2009 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 6018601)
I don't disagree, but they had enough game tape to make that decision long before now. I guess if he's taking over the playcalling that's one thing, but can he handle all of that? We'll see. I just don't understand the logic of making this call at the end of the preseason.
Perhaps Haley was under demands from management and ownership to keep Gailey around, and Todd finally gathered enough evidence to change opinions?

No matter what, it's not a great sign that this is happening less than 2 weeks out. Pretty embarrassing for the franchise, really.

We'll see if it ends up being positive in the long run...

C-Mac 08-31-2009 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6018568)
As I said in another thread:

I'm just glad that Haley is holding EVERYONE accountable, not just the players.

Gailey's playcalling was just as predictable as last year. A few buddies and I were at the game Saturday, and were calling the plays with close to 80% accuracy. If the ****ing fans know what's coming, I'm pretty sure that opposing defenses know it as well.
I don't think Haley could take it anymore, he was never comfortable with someone else calling the plays...especially if they were failing. Likely Saturday nite he had enough and took control of it. Don't know for sure when he started but I noticed he was calling the plays somewhere around the 4th quarter.

angelo 08-31-2009 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Bill Lundberg (Post 6017687)
Here's what I like about this.

*Haley could have let Chan hang around until the end of the season and then Fired him and used him as a scapegoat for our upcoming 3-13 season. Instead he took the bull by the horns and made the call right away. It may be to his ultimate detriment, but I respect the hell out of Haley for running this thing his way.
This.

For the managers out there.

How often have you started a new job and the staff looked good on paper but could not execute your plan.

Did you keep them around, I bet not.

Ang

TRR 08-31-2009 01:21 PM
The bottom line is that Todd Haley wants to call the plays. Its what he does best, and what he wanted to do all along. What does Gailey offer if he isn't calling the plays?

According to some reports, Gailey has been retained, but will be removed as O Coordinator. Its better to make this decision now rather than during the season. Haley tried to let Gailey run the offense, but everyone knew the time would come when Haley took over...
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DeezNutz 08-31-2009 01:23 PM
Gailey isn't going to be retained.

I could care less what the reports are today. When the smoke clears, his ass will be nowhere near 1 Arrowhead. Nothing good can come from having fired employees hanging around the water cooler.

Mr. Krab 08-31-2009 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by tooge (Post 6018295)
Listening to Petro right now, and I think his "take", albeit his conspiracy theory is right on. He stated that he wonders if Haley just didn't say "look chan, we aren't gonna ever become the perennial playoff contenders and superbowl contenders running the spread with guys like Thigpen. We need better players to run OUR system, but they aren't all here now. We will do the best we can within OUR system." In other words, he would rather take the bumps with accurate pocket guys than Thigpen types and run his system. Chan probably disagrees and with a bit of arguing, Haley tells him he's done. Sounds good to me.
Thigpen is the debbil!!!!!!!!!!


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